[Items I & II]
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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE AND REMAIN STANDING IN THE WAY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR RYAN ROGERS.
MAY HIS PARENTS AND FAMILY FEEL THE LOVE AND SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MAYOR LITT HERE, VICE MAYOR REED HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER WOODS HERE, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER MARCIANO, YOU'RE COUNCIL MEMBER TINSLEY HERE.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR MODIFICATIONS THIS EVENING? NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH A BIT ON THE PRESS CONFERENCE THIS MORNING, AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE BY NOW, CHIEF SHANNON HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE THIS MORNING ALONGSIDE DETECTIVE BASHEER, FELLOW OFFICERS AT FORENSIC SPECIALISTS THE PALM BEACH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND LAB TEAMS AND THE MIAMI-DADE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO THANK THEM ALL FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND PERSISTENCE IN FINDING THE CLUES THAT ULTIMATELY LED TO FINDING THE SUSPECT IN RYAN'S MURDER.
THIS COULD HAVE VERY WELL BEEN AN UNSOLVED CASE, IF NOT FOR THE AMAZING TALENT OF THESE DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS.
THE SUSPECT IS NOT A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS A CASE THAT COULD HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT HAPPENED HERE.
IT HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT TWO WEEKS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, PARENT AND GRANDPARENT.
I TOO WANTED THE ANCESTRAL ANSWERS THAT WOULD HAVE MADE ME FEEL SAFE AND LESS VULNERABLE WHILE THE INVESTIGATION PROCEEDED.
I HOPE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND AS I DID, THAT PRECAUTIONS IN THE RELEASE OF INFORMATION SO AS NOT TO ENDANGER THE INVESTIGATION WERE NECESSARY TO ENSURE THE SUSPECT WAS IDENTIFIED AND APPREHENDED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL.
AND HE WAS. I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE PROUD OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS, DETECTIVES AND FORENSICS TEAM AND MORE CONFIDENT IN THEIR ABILITIES THAN I AM NOW.
WHILE THIS WAS A STRESSFUL AND DIFFICULT WEEK FOR THE PALM BEACH GARDENS FAMILY, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IT IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE HELL THAT RYAN'S PARENTS AND LOVED ONES HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH SINCE HIS BODY WAS DISCOVERED.
MY HEART HURTS FOR THEM AND FOR ALL WHO KNEW RYAN.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL CHARLOTTE BRZEZINSKI, LEISURE SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR,
[IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS / PRESENTATIONS:]
TO THE PODIUM. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, CHARLOTTE PRESENT, LEISURE SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR, IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT I'M BACK IN FRONT OF YOU THIS YEAR TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, ITS RESOLUTION.SIXTY SIX, IT'S YOUR AGREEMENT WITH THE CHILDREN'S HEALTH CARE CHARITIES FOR THIS UPCOMING HONDA CLASSIC FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY GRANT.
AS YOU KNOW, SINCE 2005, THE CITY HAS BEEN THE HOST CITY OF THE HONDA CLASSIC AND THE INTERNATIONAL EXPOSURE AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ATTEND ARE AN ECONOMIC BOOM NOT ONLY TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO THE CHARITIES THAT BENEFIT FROM THE GREAT WORK OF THE HONDA CLASSIC CARES PROGRAM.
SO TO TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THAT, AS THEY DO EVERY YEAR, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP KEN KENNERLY AND ANDREW GEORGE, AND THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US IN TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR THE PARTNERSHIP. IT FEELS LIKE WE WERE JUST AT THE TABLE TALKING ABOUT THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE HONDA CLASSIC AND HERE WE GO AGAIN.
BUT KEN IS GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GROWTH AND AND WHERE WE'RE HEADING AS WE GO INTO FEBRUARY OF 2022, BUT I THINK WE'D BE REMISS WITHOUT TALKING ON THIS LAST YEAR'S TOURNAMENT. A LOT OF CELEBRATION IN THE MIDST OF CHALLENGES, OBVIOUSLY 20 MONTHS OF A
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PANDEMIC AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.AT THIS POINT LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY FANS, 5000 FANS, 10000 OR FULL BOAT ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN.
AND TO GET TO THE MILESTONES THAT WE DID COLLECTIVELY, WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY DID IN COLLABORATION, LITERALLY FROM MOMENT NUMBER ONE.
IT STARTS WITH AMERICAN HONDA.
WE CELEBRATED THEIR 40TH YEAR AS THE TITLE SPONSOR, THE LONGEST TITLE ON THE PGA TOUR AND THE LONGEST TITLE AND SPONSORSHIP IN ANY SPORT AROUND THE COUNTRY.
WE WERE HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE AT THAT TIME IN THE MIDST OF THE PANDEMIC FOR THEM IN THE MIDST OF A PRESIDENTIAL CHANGE AND THEIR LEADERSHIP AN EXTENSION THROUGH THE 2023 HONDA CLASSIC. SO WE'VE GOT THEM AT LEAST THROUGH THE 40 SECOND PLAYING AND ALREADY WORKING ON GROWING THAT FROM FORTY TWO TO TO BEYOND THE ATTENDANCE, WE WERE SETTLING IN ON A 10000 MAX PER DAY THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.
OUR STRUCTURES WERE LIMITED TO 20 PERCENT.
WE HAD ROUGHLY THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND IN TOTAL SCANS COMING THROUGH.
BUT THE NUMBER THAT WE THINK ABOUT EVERY DAY IS WE COME TO WORK PRIDE OURSELVES IN AS A COMMUNITY. HERE IS THAT PHILANTHROPIC NUMBER, AND FOR US IT WAS THE SECOND HIGHEST CHARITABLE GIVING NUMBER WE HAD EVER HAD AT FIVE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS.
WE BUDGETED FOR TWO POINT EIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS BAD BUDGETING ON ON OUR PARTNER OR A GOOD TOURNAMENT, BUT TO CELEBRATE OVER FIVE MILLION AGAIN HIT FIFTY FIVE MILLION SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE TOURNAMENT WITH THE HONDA CLASSIC.
AND AS OUR PRIMARY BENEFICIARY, NICKLAUS CHILDREN'S HEALTH CARE FOUNDATION, JACK AND BARBARA AND ALL THE GREAT WORK THEY DO IN SOUTH FLORIDA HIT $10 MILLION IN GIVING TO THEM AS A GROUP AS WELL. SO A LOT OF CELEBRATION IN THE MIDST OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD THIS PAST YEAR, INCLUDING THE HONDA BIRDIES FOR CHILDREN PROGRAM.
I THINK WHEN I WAS RUNNING IT, WE WERE AT THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND AND NOW WE JUST HIT THREE MILLION IN ONE YEAR. SO CLEARLY THE THE LEADERSHIP THERE ON THAT SIDE IS IS GOING WELL.
IT FEELS LIKE THAT THROUGH AND THROUGH.
YOU GUYS HELP US TO MAKE THAT TO FEEL LIKE IT'S A TIGHT KNIT GROUP OF SPONSORS AND PATRONS AND CELEBRATION WITH AMERICAN HONDA, BUT WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE KIND OF THE INTERNATIONAL REACH THAT THIS EVENT REALLY HAS.
THE TELEVISION COVERAGE ON GOLF CHANNEL AND NBC CONTINUES TO GROW.
WE'RE OVER SEVENTY TWO HOURS OF LIVE COVERAGE ON GOLF CHANNEL AND NBC IN TOTAL, WHEN YOU TALLY UP ALL THE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS AND STATIONS AROUND THE WORLD, WE HAD A THOUSAND PLUS HOURS OF LIVE COVERAGE OF THE HONDA CLASSIC AND THE TOTAL VIEWING TIME WE TRACKED THIS. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE WATCHING FOR TWO MINUTES AND AN HOUR. WE HAD A RECORD LENGTH OF 77 MINUTES OF AVERAGE VIEWERSHIP OVER THOSE THOUSAND PLUS HOURS AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT.
WE WORK VERY HARD WITH ABC AND THE GOLF CHANNEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING, ESPECIALLY IN LATE FEBRUARY, WHEN IT'S SNOWING IN MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, HOW GREAT PALM BEACH GARDENS, HOW GREAT PALM BEACH COUNTY IS.
WE HAD OVER 60 MINUTES OF DIRECT ON AIR COVERAGE TALKING ABOUT THIS GREAT COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE HERE WITH PGA NATIONAL AND PAUL PALM BEACH GARDENS.
THE BROADCAST REACHED CONTINUES TO GROW OVER A BILLION HOUSEHOLDS WORLDWIDE AND TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES TWENTY THREE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.
THE TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING AS WE GO FORWARD, AND IT'S NO SURPRISE IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER EVENT, A LOT MORE IN THE DIGITAL SPACE.
IT'S NOT JUST THE NBC BROADCAST THAT PEOPLE ARE TUNING INTO.
IT'S THE DIFFERENT SOCIAL CHANNELS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
WE HAD TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR IN THOSE EVENT RELATED SOCIAL AND VIDEO CHANNELS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE.
OVER 11 MILLION VIEWS INTO THE ONLINE PLATFORM THIS YEAR AS THAT CONTINUES TO GROW IN IN CONTRAST TO THE BROADCAST.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KEN, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TWENTY TWO AND BEYOND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANKS, ANDREW.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR INVITING US UP HERE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IT'S TRULY AN HONOR TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU ALL AND TO REPRESENT THIS GREAT CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS AND OUR GREAT COUNTY.
AS ANDREW SAID, THE PGA TOUR JUST CONTINUES TO OUTPACE ITSELF.
THEY'RE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB, BUT IT IS ALL ABOUT PHILANTHROPY.
AND YOU HEARD ANDREW TALK ABOUT HOW WE SURPASSED 55 MILLION.
YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THE STARS LINE UP ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SURPASS $60 MILLION IN TOTAL GIVING FROM FROM THE HONDA CLASSIC.
TWENTY TWO, IT'S YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IT'S NO SURPRISE WE'RE BACK TO.
THERE ARE NO MANDATES AT ALL FROM THE PGA TOUR.
THERE ARE NO CAP ON ANYTHING WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE WHILE WE ARE MAINTAINING SOME OF THE SOCIAL PROTOCOLS THAT WE HAD PUT IN PLACE THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, WE'RE GEARING FOR 100 PERCENT CAPACITY, OUR BILL TO BE OVER 350000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILD, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD IN 2020.
FRANKLY, IT WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AS WE CONTINUE TO ROLL IT.
I WILL SAY JUST QUICKLY. OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO BE SUCH A GREAT SUPPORT MECHANISM FOR US. OUR GREAT SALES TEAM, ALONG WITH ANDREW MYSELF, ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB IN
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GENERATING SUBSTANTIAL REVENUE, WHICH OF COURSE, IS ALL GOING TO BE KICKED BACK IN THE FORM OF PROFIT.SO I THINK ONE THING THAT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO US THIS YEAR IS WE'RE BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL DATES. WE WERE THE KICKOFF OF THE FLORIDA SWING SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
AS YOU KNOW, MEXICO IS A WORLD GOLF CHAMPIONSHIP IS GOING AWAY, SO THE PLAYERS WILL COME DIRECTLY FROM LOS ANGELES.
WE WON'T HAVE ANOTHER MAJOR EVENT BEFORE US, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY DID COMPETE WITH SOME OF OUR PLAYERS JOINING US.
SO THE EVENT WILL COME INTO PALM BEACH COUNTY, INTO THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, GO UP TO ORLANDO AND THEN TO THE PLAYERS CHAMPIONSHIP.
SO IF YOU LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE STRONGEST FIELDS WE'VE HAD, IT'S IN THIS POSITION AND AND WE'RE HONORED TO BE THE KICKOFF OF THE FLORIDA SWING AS WE LOOK AT THE ACTIVATIONS.
AS I SAID, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS COMING BACK OVER PUBLIC 20 PUBLIC ACTIVATIONS WHERE BEST PRACTICE ON THE PGA TOUR.
THOSE ARE STRUCTURES THAT YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING MORE THAN A NORMAL GROUNDS.
TICKETS TO GET IN. FOR THOSE OF YOU, I KNOW MANY OF YOU ALL AND PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN TO THE HONDA CLASSIC.
THE AVERAGE PGA TOUR EVENT IS ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE PUBLIC STRUCTURES.
WE'VE GOT OVER 20 PUBLIC ACTIVATIONS THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS THAT LITERALLY GIVE US THE MONEY TO TO BUILD BUILD THESE STRUCTURES WHERE WE'RE THRILLED TO BRING BACK OUR PATRIOTS OUTPOST, THE MILITARY APPRECIATION PAVILION.
AND IT REALLY HURT US LAST YEAR THAT WE COULDN'T INVITE THE MILITARY, AS YOU KNOW, COMPLIMENTARY ON BEHALF OF OUR OUR PARTNERS IN THE PAST.
UNITED TECHNOLOGIES AND THIS YEAR, PRATT WHITNEY, ANOTHER ONE OF OUR GREAT LOCAL COMPANIES, STEPPED UP TO SPONSOR THIS TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS PATRIOTS OUTPOST.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD OVER 15000 PEOPLE THAT WALK THROUGH OUR FACILITY LUNCH BEVERAGES IN 2020. OUR WOMEN'S LEADERSHIP FORUM WILL BE BACK, WE'RE GOING TO BE ANNOUNCING OUR TWO SPEAKERS, I THINK YOU'LL FIND THEM TO BE PRETTY DYNAMIC.
BE TUESDAY OF TOURNAMENT WEEK OR KICKOFF PARTY WILL BE BACK.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR A LOCATION.
CURRENTLY, IT WILL NOT BE AT THE GARDENS MALL THIS YEAR, BUT MR. FORBES HAS ASSURED US THAT WE'LL BE BACK IN 2023 IN THE GARDENS MALL FOR OUR KICKOFF PARTY. OF COURSE, OUR GREAT PARTNER, ONE OF OUR GREAT LOCAL CORPORATIONS TO OUR KINGDOM AND TBHQ AND OUR FOUNDERS CLUB PARTNER WILL BE BACK WITH OUR FIREWORKS AND OUR AFTER PLAY CONCERTS. AND AGAIN, AS WE LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, AS WE BUILD THE HIGHLIGHTS WHERE YOU'LL SEE A TREMENDOUS BEAR TRAP SECOND FLOOR STRUCTURE THIS YEAR, THE BEAR TRAP RESERVE.
IT'S REALLY EXCITING. WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF TAKE UP ON THIS AND YOU'LL SEE SOME PHOTOS HERE SHORTLY. BUT LITERALLY WE HAVE A SECOND FLOOR IN THE BEAR TRAP BEHIND THE 17TH TEE, SO ABOUT A THIRD OF THE STRUCTURE WILL HAVE A SECOND FLOOR.
THE LEGENDS CLUB UNDERNEATH 18 RIGHT ON THE 18TH GREEN, OUR HIGHEST FORM OF HOSPITALITY.
BE BACK! NEW PUBLIC BLEACHER SPONSORS WILL HAVE, AS A REFERENCE, 350 PLUS THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF BILL, AND OUR DAILY THEMES WILL BE OUR MILITARY APPRECIATION DAY AND WILL BE THURSDAY, AS IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST WITH FOLLOWED BY A CONCERT THAT NIGHT.
FRIDAY WILL BE OUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS DAY, SPONSORED BY JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER, OUR GREAT OFFICIAL MEDICAL PARTNER, ALONG WITH NICKLAUS CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL DOWN IN MIAMI AND SATURDAY. OF COURSE, OUR TIGER KINGDOM KIDS AND FAMILY DAY.
AND AS ALWAYS, HONDA CLASSIC CARES PLAY YELLOW DAY, WHICH IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH JACK AND BARBARA NICKLAUS, WILL BE ON ON SUNDAY.
I ALSO WANT TO REFERENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A GREAT PARTNER IN PGA NATIONAL RESORT AND SPA. AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATIONS RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU KNOW, ALL THAT'S GOING TO DO IS HELP THE TOURNAMENT AS WE CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TO THEIR COMMITMENT THAT THEY'VE SHOWED US YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, AS YOU KNOW, FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER, CERTAINLY TO THIS OWNER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CHANGES WE'VE SEEN WHERE WE'RE INCREDIBLY HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I KNOW EVEN FOLLOWING THE HONDA CLASSIC, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES. SO WITH THAT, ANDREA, ON BEHALF OF ANDREW, MYSELF AND THE REST OF OUR BOARD, WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.
IT'S AN ABSOLUTE HONOR TO HAVE OUR GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS. I'VE SAID IT BEFORE.
YOU'RE YOU'RE ONE AGAIN, ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES ON THE PGA TOUR, THE WAY YOU AND YOUR TEAM EMBRACE, EMBRACE WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO BRING TO TOWN.
I SAID IT LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, I SAID IT'S CHRISTMAS IN FEBRUARY WHEN THE HONDA CLASSIC COMES IN BECAUSE IT IS EVERYBODY JUST GLOWS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND AND THE CITY JUST SHINES DURING THAT TIME.
SO AND THE REVENUE THAT IT BRINGS TO THE CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S WELL NEEDED THESE DAYS.
SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT BEING A BIG BLAST.
SO AND WE ALWAYS LOVE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU GUYS.
SO ARE WE DOING THE PARTY THIS YEAR IN THE MALL? WE'RE NOT DOING IT THIS YEAR.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT JUST FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
WHATEVER WE'RE WE'RE NOT. WE ALWAYS HAVE FUN THERE, TOO.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARTY, THOUGH. CARL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARTY.
BUD LIGHT. I WON'T TELL CORONA, OUR BEER SPONSOR, BUT WHAT ABOUT RABBIT'S FOOT AND MOUTH CARL FOOT MOUTH? I'LL SAY ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR ECONOMIC IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN MEASURED AT OVER $55 MILLION.
SO IT'S A PRETTY I KNOW YOU REFERENCED IT, BUT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT, FOR SURE. AND THE CHARITABLE IMPACT IS JUST AMAZING THAT YOU HAVE.
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SO AGAIN, THANK YOU.NEXT IS COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, I HAVE ONE COMMENT CARD FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
[V. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC:]
THOSE THAT SUBMITTED CARDS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL BE CALLED UP WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP. SO FOR NOW, WE'LL PAULA KIND, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.MY NAME IS PAUL, A KIND OF ADDRESS IS ONE ONE NINE, THE COVE DRIVE IN THE TOWN.
THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME TO SPEAK.
I'LL START BY SAYING WITH MY WIFE GOES TO ANY MALL OR FOOD MARKET.
I'M SURE THAT MOST OF YOU AND OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SAME CHILL.
IN FACT, THIS ROOM ITSELF IS A LITTLE COOLER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE FOR COMFORT.
NOW, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT MY POINT IS THAT THESE PLACES ARE OVER COOLED.
SO HERE'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THE LEAD IN FIGHTING GLOBAL WARMING LOCALLY.
I THINK. AND SO DO MANY OTHERS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE AND ENERGY OVERUSE IS THE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM FACING OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.
IS THERE A GOOD LOCAL WAY TO REDUCE ENERGY USE? YES. AS A TOWN, WE COULD CREATE A JOINT WORKFORCE WITH ALL THE MARKETS AND MOLE DIRECTORS TO DECREASE THE AIR CONDITIONING LEVELS AND INCREASE THE AND INCREASE THE AMBIENT TEMPERATURES IN THESE PLACES.
IF DONE WITH FULL BACKING OF THE COUNCIL AND WITH A PUBLIC CAMPAIGN OF ALL THOSE INVOLVED TO SHOW CONCERN FOR CLIMATE CHANGE AND AT THE SAME TIME MAKING SAWS MORE COMFORTABLE, I THINK THAT THIS AS A WAY FOR THE STORES ALSO TO REDUCING THEIR ENERGY BILLS.
IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, IT COULD BE A MODEL FOR OTHER TOWNS TO COPY US.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PALM BEACH COUNCIL TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS AREA FOR MANY YEARS AND WILL BE HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY SUCH PROJECT THAT YOU CONSIDER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PAUL, WE MAY TAKE YOU UP ON THAT.
OK. NEXT IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORT, RON, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT THIS EVENING?
[VI. CITY MANAGER REPORT:]
JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS, IF YOU WOULD.YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS OCCURRING THIS MONTH.
I JUST WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO SOME OF THEM.
WE HAVE OUR 37TH ANNUAL HOLIDAY BAZAAR FRIDAY, THE THIRD THROUGH SATURDAY.
THE FOURTH OF DECEMBER GOES FROM 11 TO EIGHT ON FRIDAY AND NINE TO FOUR OVER BYRNES ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER.
THIS IS 85 VENDORS, HANDICRAFTS, GIFT ITEMS FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, FRIDAY THIS FRIDAY AT 5:30 DECEMBER, THE 3RD AT BURNS ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER AGAIN IS OUR ANNUAL TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY.
FIVE THIRTY SIX O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK.
IT IS. WE ALSO HAVE OUR SECOND FILMS ON THE FILM FIELD, WHICH WILL BE OUT BY THE MIRACLE LEAGUE FACILITY.
IT'S SPONSORED BY BOLANOS CHARITIES AS WELL AS FRENCHMEN CREEK CHARITIES, AND THIS WILL BE A FREE EVENT WHERE YOU BRING A BLANKET OR A LAWN CHAIR AND WATCH THE MOVIE ELF OUT ON THE LAWN.
OUTSIDE, YOU BRING YOUR OWN POPCORN, YOUR SODAS AND THE FAMILY AND HAVE A GOOD FAMILY EVENT. I ATTENDED THE LAST ONE AND IT WAS GREAT.
WE ALSO HAVE STORIES IN THE PARK THE SATURDAY THE 18TH FROM 10 TO 11 AT PGA NATIONAL PARK OVER ON RYDER CUP.
IT'S FREE AND THE STORYTELLING WILL BE NEAR THE PLAYGROUND AND WILL BE.
IT'S A CHILDREN'S ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAM AND IT'S FREE FOR EVERYONE TO COME.
PGA NATIONAL PARK SATURDAY THE 18TH.
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ALSO, WE CONTINUE OUR COMMUNITY CONCERT SERIES THE MO TOWNERS, THE ULTIMATE MOTOWN TRIBUTE BAND SPONSORED BY THE FRENCHMAN'S CREEK CHARITIES, WILL BE PERFORMING SATURDAY, DECEMBER THE 18TH FROM SEVEN TO NINE.THOSE OF YOU THAT ATTENDED THE LAST ONE KNOW HOW MUCH FUN THAT CAN BE.
IT'LL BE HERE ON THE VETERANS PLAZA.
IT'S FREE, INCREDIBLE MUSIC AND I THINK EVERYONE COULD ENJOY THAT.
ALSO, WE HAVE THE LITTLE MO INTERNATIONAL YOUTH TENNIS TOURNAMENT, WHICH STARTS DECEMBER THREE THROUGH EIGHT AT TENNIS PICKLEBALL FACILITY.
OVER AT JOE RUSSO PARK, THE LITTLE MOUSE DRAWS PLAYERS FROM EIGHT TO 12 YEARS OLD, 13 TO 16 CATEGORY FROM 60 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, ALONG WITH PARENTS AND SIBLINGS THAT ATTEND.
ALSO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE JAMIE'S ANGELS SATURDAY, DECEMBER THE 18TH FROM ONE TO TWO AT THE TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL CENTER OVER AT JOE RUSSO FACILITIES.
THE ANGELS MEET ONCE A MONTH DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND THE MEMBERS OF THE DISABLED COMMUNITY ARE INVITED TO ENJOY THAT PROGRAM, AND IT'S A TENNIS ACTIVITY.
ONCE AGAIN, IT'S FREE AND IT'S IT'S A FAMILY EVENT AND IT'S WELCOMED BY ALL.
THOSE ARE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF THE HOLIDAY ACTIVITIES UNLESS I MISSED ANY.
SO I JUST WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY OUT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.
THEY'RE ALL FAMILY ORIENTED EVENTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.
UNLIKE MANY CITIES IN FLORIDA, PALM BEACH GARDENS IS TRULY A MULTIGENERATIONAL CITY AND WE HAVE ACTIVITIES FOR EVERYONE.
[VII. CONSENT AGENDA:]
IS ANYONE PULLING ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA.I I AND HE OPPOSED THE MOTION PASS US FIVE ZERO.
MAYOR, IF I MIGHT RECOGNIZE GARY HARKINS, ARE YOU HERE? THERE YOU ARE. HI.
FROM THE BDB, WE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND HELPING US WITH THIS PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE FOR INCENTIVES FOR SOME LOCAL BUSINESS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE, GARY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. TONIGHT, WE ARE HOLDING QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS ON THE FOLLOWING CASES
[Items VIII.a. & VIII.b.]
ORDINANCE 14, 2021 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION REZONING TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT ZERO EIGHT ACRES WITHIN PGA NATIONAL FROM PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PCD RESOLUTION 60 2021 PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PCD AMENDMENT TO PGA NATIONAL PCD MASTER PLAN RESOLUTION SIXTY ONE 2021 PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PWD AMENDMENT TO EXPAND THE PGA RESORT CORE.THIS MEANS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO BASE ITS DECISION ON THE EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE RECORD OF THIS PROCEEDING, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE TESTIMONY AT THE HEARING, THE MATERIALS WHICH ARE IN THE OFFICIAL CITY FILE ON THIS APPLICATION AND ANY DOCUMENTS PRESENTED DURING THIS HEARING.
THE COUNCIL IS ALSO REQUIRED BY LAW TO ALLOW CROSS EXAMINATION OF ANY WITNESSES WHO TESTIFIED TONIGHT.
CROSS-EXAMINATION MAY OCCUR AFTER THE STAFF, THE APPLICANT AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS HAVE MADE THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND WILL BE PERMITTED IN THE ORDER OF THE WITNESSES APPEARANCE.
IT IS NECESSARY THAT ANYONE WHO TESTIFIES AT THE HEARING REMAIN UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS.
IF YOU PLAN TO TESTIFY THIS EVENING OR WISH TO OFFER WRITTEN COMMENTS, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY CLERK.
THE CITY CLERK WILL NOW SWEAR IN ALL PERSONS WHO INTEND TO OFFER TESTIMONY THIS EVENING ON ANY OF THESE CASES.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU, GOD? MADAM CHAIR, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE ORDINANCE 13, 20 ONE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, ADOPTING A SMALL SCALE
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AMENDMENT TO ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MANDATE SET FORTH IN CHAPTER 163 FLORIDA STATUTES PURSUANT TO APPLICATION NO.CPS DASH TWO ZERO DASH ONE ONE ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO ONE FOUR IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON TWO POINT ZERO EIGHT ACRES IN SIZE MORE OR LESS FROM GOLF G TO COMMERCIAL C, PROVIDING A NOTATION ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PERTAINING TO THE PERMITTED LAND USE DENSITY AND INTENSITY RELATED TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BEING LOCATED WITHIN PGA NATIONAL, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PGA RESORT CORE AT THE SOUTHERN TERMINATING END OF AVENUE OF THE CHAMPIONS, APPROXIMATELY 0.5 ZERO MILES SOUTH OF PGA BOULEVARD, PROVIDING FOR COMPLIANCE WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER ONE, 63 FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDING FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY D.O., PROVIDING THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS BE AMENDED ACCORDINGLY, PROVIDING A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
NOTE TO THE PUBLIC THERE IS A SIGN IN SHEET AT THE FRONT DESK FOR ANYONE WANTING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
CAN WE DECLARE ANY EX PARTE HAZE OR EXCLUSIONS FROM THE PROCESS? MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE TO RECUSE, RECUSE MYSELF FROM ORDINANCE 13, ORDINANCE 14 AND THE COMPANION ITEMS DUE TO THE FACT THAT MY HUSBAND IS A SHAREHOLDER IN THE COMPANY THAT DID THE TRAFFIC REPORT AND THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE.
I SPOKE WITH KEN TUMA ON NOVEMBER 30TH BRIEFLY ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE CHANGES.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH KEN AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX TIMES SINCE THE LAST MEETING, AND I HAVE SPOKEN WITH BRIAN SEYMOUR TODAY.
I HAD FOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH KEN TUMIN, OBVIOUSLY PLENTY OF EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS. SAME SAME MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH KEN AND SHORT CONVERSATION WITH BRIAN. HAS ANYTHING CHANGED SINCE THE FIRST READING? YES, MA'AM. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO PRESENT THOSE CHANGES.
KEN, WELCOME TO PRESENT YOUR PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, KEN, TOO WITH URBAN DESIGN STUDIO.
MY ADDRESS IS 610 CLEMATIS STREET AND I'VE BEEN SWORN IN THIS EVENING.
YOU HAVE FOUR ITEMS IN FRONT OF YOU.
IN THE GENERAL CONTEXT OF THOSE FOUR ITEMS, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE IN SECOND READING A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT A REZONING FROM GOLF TO COMMERCIAL, A PCD MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND A PLAN OR A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND NONE OF THOSE ITEMS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SITE PLAN, HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE LAST HEARING WITH PERMISSION OF THE OF THE COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUMP RIGHT TO THE ITEMS THAT HAVE CHANGED AS YOU HAVE ALREADY VOTED TO APPROVE THE LAND USE AND THE REZONING ON FIRST READING.
I'D LIKE TO JUMP JUST TO THE ITEMS THAT HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE PRESENTATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO ITEMS THAT HAVE CHANGED.
SO I'M GOING TO ADDRESS IN A SECOND.
IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IF YOU'D ALSO LIKE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A FULL PRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
BUT IF WE DO GO RIGHT TO THE ITEMS THAT ARE OF IMPORTANCE THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO REBUT WITH THE POWERPOINT IF I NEED TO AFTERWARDS.
SO WE GO WITH THAT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AND I APPRECIATE IT.
SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST TWO WEEKS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE RESIDENTS, THE MEMBERS ALL HAVE PARTICIPATED IN A VERY ACTIVE AND LIVELY DISCUSSION, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY BROUGHT FORTH ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE MEMBERS OF THE GOLF EXPERIENCE.
THERE WERE A LOT OF ITEMS BROUGHT FORTH OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE WITH THE SITE PLAN. OUR CLIENT HAS ACTIVELY WORKED THERE HERE THIS EVENING TO TRY TO COME TO A RESOLUTION OR A FAIR AND EQUITABLE COMPROMISE.
NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE SOLVED TONIGHT THAT EVERYONE WANTS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE PROVIDED A GREAT PLAN AND SOMETHING THAT WILL REALLY MAKE THE PGA RESORT AND SPA SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL.
THE ITEMS THAT WERE THAT WERE UNDER DISCUSSION, THE KEY ITEMS THAT WERE UNDER DISCUSSION, WHERE THE WATER SLIDE.
LET ME BE CLEAR TO EVERYONE THIS EVENING.
WE'RE REMOVING THAT FROM THE PLAN.
THAT WATERSLIDE IS NO LONGER PART TO THIS PROJECT.
ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT WAS A RESTROOM FACILITY WE WERE TEARING DOWN, OR WE
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ARE TEARING DOWN A BUILDING ON THE GOLF COURSE THAT HAS A RESTROOM FACILITY.THE BROOKFIELD IS IS MAKING SOME CHANGES.
WE'VE ADAPTED. WE'VE ACCEPTED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESTROOM THAT WE'RE BUILDING FOR THE LAZY RIVER HAS A REAR ACCESS DOOR, SO THE GOLFERS WILL HAVE A RESTROOM. OTHER KEY ITEMS INVOLVED POOL ACCESS TO THE GOLF CART.
THERE WILL BE NO ACCESS FROM THE POOL TO THE GOLF CART PATH.
AND THEN THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DRIVING RANGE.
THERE WILL BE MODIFICATIONS TO THE DRIVING RANGE, BUT THE DRIVING RANGE WILL REMAIN AS PUT. LET ME JUMP THE SLIDE TWENTY ONE AND SAVE YOU A WHOLE BUNCH OF SLIDES IN BETWEEN.
SO THIS IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AT YOUR LAST HEARING.
YOU CAN SEE THE WATER SLIDE HERE WITH A BIG X AROUND IT THAT'S BEEN REMOVED AND THAT'LL BE ON THE NEXT SLIDE OR REPLACING THAT WATER SLIDE WITH LANDSCAPE SEATING AREAS AND HARD SCAPE. SO THE AREA WILL STILL BE THERE.
THERE JUST WON'T BE A WATER SLIDE THERE.
AND THEN HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED REVISION TO THE SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR THAN WHAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET, I HAD A CHANCE TO HIT IT WITH A MARKER TODAY.
YOU COULD SEE THE TREES, THE LANDSCAPE.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE THE WATER SLIDE WAS REPLACING AGAIN WITH SEEDING AND LANDSCAPING.
EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINED THE SAME AS IT PRESENTED TO YOU IN YOUR PREVIOUS HEARING.
AND THEN FINALLY, THIS IS THE RESTROOM FACILITY, THERE IS A CONCESSION STAND IN OR A FOOD AREA HERE, AND THEN THIS BUILDING, THE LARGER BUILDING WAS A RESTROOM FACILITY.
WE'RE MODIFYING THAT TO ALLOW FOR ACCESS OFF OF THE REAR OF THAT BUILDING.
SO PEOPLE ON THE GOLF CART PATH, THE EXISTING RESTROOM IS KIND OF GENERALLY IN THIS AREA.
THEY'LL HAVE TO COME IN THROUGH THE DOOR.
THERE'LL BE A UNISEX BATHROOM IN THE REAR OF THAT BUILDING.
SO ALL THE GOLFERS, IF THEY NEED TO USE A RESTROOM, WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
THOSE PLANS WE WILL BE SUBMITTING, WE'RE ACCEPTING ADDITION OF APPROVAL TO UPDATE ALL THE PLANS WITHIN 30 DAYS OR STAFF IS DILIGENTLY REVIEWED.
THIS THOSE UPDATED PLANS IN 30 DAYS WILL INCLUDE A NEW LANDSCAPE PLAN, THE RESTROOM FACILITY AND ALSO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN ITSELF.
AS I SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO, I'M GOING TO KEEP IT VERY SHORT.
I HAVE A LONG PRESENTATION, BUT THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE DONE AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A VERY FAIR AND EQUITABLE COMPROMISE, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR CLIENT, BROOKFIELD, THE OWNER OF BOTH THE RESORT AND THE GOLF COURSE, FOR WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THIS. AND WITH THAT, I'LL STOP MY PRESENTATION AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU.
DOES DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AT THIS TIME? OK. YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, KEN.
IF YOU DON'T MIND IN TERMS OF THE THE BATHROOM ACCESS.
IS THERE GOING TO BE LIKE A CART PARKING AREA UP FRONT OFF THE PATH ITSELF SO THAT CARS DON'T SIT THERE AND STACK? AND THAT'S A WIDE CART PATH IN THAT AREA? COUNCIL MEMBER MARCIANO WHAT WE'RE WORKING OUT AND WHY WE COULDN'T GET IT COMPLETELY DONE IS THERE ARE SOME ADA RAMPS BACK THERE.
SO ONCE WE GET THAT FIGURED OUT, THERE SHOULD BE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR GOLF CART.
KEN, WHY EXACTLY IS THE SLIDE BEING REMOVED? SURE. I MEAN, SO I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY PUSHBACK TO THE PROPOSAL. THE NEIGHBORS, I KNOW THAT NANCY AND I'M GOING TO FORGET HER NAME IS GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK. WEISSMANN IS GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE REMOVAL. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUSHBACK, BOTH FROM NOT JUST THE NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE GOLF EXPERIENCE.
AND I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, I AM NOT A GOLFER.
SO TO ME, THE EXPERIENCE OF GOLF, YOU COULD TELL ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
BUT THAT REALLY HAD BEEN THOSE TWO ISSUES.
AND I KNOW MR. WOODS, YOU ARE A GOLFER, BUT THAT IS THE REASON WHY IT'S BEING REMOVED IS THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS COMMUNITY.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I'M NOT A SLIDER? OTHER THAN I MIGHT NOT FIT, RIGHT? TRUE. SO I HAD, ALONG WITH MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, ABOUT 30 EMAILS, MIX OF SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION. ARE YOU SURE THAT THIS IS THE CHOICE THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE IN SUPPORT OF OUR THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND THE SENSITIVITY TO THE SLIDE? MULTIPLE ISSUES THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS DECISION.
YES, SIR, OUR CLIENT, WE HAVE GONE OVER IT IN DETAIL AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT IS IMPORTANT AND LASTING.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS PROJECT AND THE TIMING ARE CRITICAL THERE ARE TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD. SO WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING AS WE ARE ON A VERY CRITICAL TIME PATH HERE.
SO THE GOAL IS TO MAKE PGA NATIONAL RESORT KIND OF ITS OWN MIXED USE.
IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE GOLF, IT HAS ALL KINDS OF THINGS, YOU KNOW?
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BUT IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL SENSITIVE TO THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, AND IF WE REMOVE ONE THING AND IT'S STILL GETS PGA NATIONAL GO IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE ALL WANT IT TO BE, THEN IT'S STILL GOING TO BE AN AWESOME PROJECT. I MEAN, WE HAD A LOT OF INTERNAL CONVERSATION THAT THE LAZY RIVER ITSELF WAS REALLY ALSO HELPS ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF MAKING IT MORE FAMILY ORIENTATED, WE RECOGNIZE.
I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I'M SURE THE WATERSLIDE WOULD BE SOMETHING GREAT THAT I WOULD LIKE.
AGAIN, I'M NOT A GOLFER, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE SATISFACTORY AND WILL ALLOW THE ATTRACTION OF WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE FAMILIES THAT COME WHO AREN'T GOLFERS TO ENJOY A DIFFERENT FEATURE THAN A STANDARD POOL.
YEAH. AND THE LAZY RIVER WILL, YOU KNOW, WILL ALSO SUPPORT THE SUMMER MEMBERSHIPS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, PARTAKES IN THAT TWO OR THREE MONTH PERIOD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WANT DIVERSITY IN A RESORT.
SO YEAH, AND MR. WOODS, WHAT WHAT MAYOR LITT SAID LAST TIME REALLY, REALLY SUNK WITH ME THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOUR GREATEST EXPERIENCES OF WERE YOUR FAMILY DURING THE SUMMER WHEN IT WAS OFF SEASON AND WHAT A COOL PLACE THAT'S GOING TO BE TO HAVE THE LAZY RIVER TO HAVE THAT JUST UNIQUE THING THAT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT YOU DON'T.
IT'S NOT SITTING IN THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, THE ONLY OTHER LAZY RIVER THAT I CAN THINK OF AS A HOTEL AND THE HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA AREA THAT I KNOW ABOUT.
OK, IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH IT, I AM TOO.
THANK YOU. YES, SIR KEN ON THE PLAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE THERE WASN'T TIME TO TO TAKE IT OFF. I KNOW STUFF STILL HAS TO GO TO STAFF FOR FINALIZATION ON THIS.
AND YOU HAVE WHAT, TWO WEEKS, I GUESS, TO TO DO THAT.
IT WAS STILL SHOWING AN ACCESS GATE.
IS THERE STILL AN EXIT GATE FROM THAT POOL ONTO THE GOLF CART PATH? THERE'S JUST NOT.
CAN ANYONE GET IN THAT GATE OR IT'S ON? WELL, I WANT TO USE THE WORD ONE WAY, BUT IT'S NOT.
IT'S FOB ORIENTED. IT'S FOB ACCESS.
BUT THE SITUATION IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ACCESS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY GATE THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT GATE IS FOR.
IT'S NOT INTENDED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN AND OUT, BUT THERE IS A GATE THERE, JUST LIKE AT THE POOL, PROBABLY AT YOUR HOUSE, THERE'S A GATE IN THE REAR AND AGAIN IN THE FRONT. IT'S JUST A REQUIREMENT.
YES. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
THOSE ARE TWO LADIES IN THE BACKGROUND WITH THE GREEN SHIRT.
THANK YOU. IT'S ALWAYS NICE IN OUR RESIDENTS ARE HEARD.
OK, A COUPLE BASIC, GRANULAR QUESTIONS.
REAL QUICK, SO ACCESS TO THE BATHROOMS AND 88 RAMPS.
CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? YEAH. SO SO THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THERE'S JUST A LITTLE ELEVATION DIFFERENTIAL HERE THAT WE JUST HAVE TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH.
BASICALLY, THE WAY THE BATHROOMS, THE WAY THIS BATHROOM SET TODAY, IT'S SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE WOMEN ON THE, I DON'T KNOW, WOMEN ON ONE SIDE, MEN ON THE OTHER.
AND THEN THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LARGE STALL.
SORRY TO GET INTO THE GRANULAR DETAILS, BUT THERE WERE A LARGE STALLS HERE.
THOSE TWO STALLS WILL BE REMOVED AND WILL BE MADE A UNISEX BATHROOM WITH ACCESS TO THE REAR. THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO DO THAT.
OUR ARCHITECT IS VERIFIED THAT OK, THANK YOU.
AND THEN SO THE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S WHERE, THE GEOGRAPHY OF IT ALL THE CHIP AND PUTTS GOING AWAY IS GOING AWAY.
PUTTING GREEN TO THE WEST WILL STILL BE THERE, PUTTING GREENS SEVEN HUNDRED FEET TO THE WEST. THE DRIVING RANGE WILL BE RELOCATED.
THE DRIVING RANGE WILL BE RELOCATED.
IT VARIES IN RELOCATION DISTANCE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE RELOCATED AT THIS END.
WHERE MY MOUSE IS, IT DOESN'T RELOCATE.
THE TEA REMAINS EXACTLY THE SAME AND BECAUSE THIS IS AT A BIT OF AN ANGLE ALL THE WAY IN, IN THE MIDDLE, IT'S ABOUT 10 FEET OF RELOCATION.
AND THEN AT THIS END, IT GETS UP IN THE 30S AND 40S AS IT CURVES.
OK. AND THEN SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THE SLIDE.
AS FAR AS NOISE IN THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NOISE? AND THEN MAYBE IF THE IF OUR STAFF CAN ALSO BACK UP HOW WE WORK ON NOISE? SURE. SO SO THE POOL HOURS WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME POOL HOURS AS THEY ARE AND THE EXISTING POOL.
I KNOW THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT NOISE FROM THE POOL AREA AND IT'S A VERY VALID CONCERN.
BUT I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT HAS VERY STRINGENT NOISE REGULATIONS.
SO EVEN IF THE RESORT BREAKS THE RULES, ALL IT TAKES TO CALL THE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND OF COURSE, YOUR STAFF CAN ARTICULATE THIS BETTER THAN I CAN.
BUT WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT GETS INVOLVED, I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT THERE WILL BE NO NOISE COMING FROM THE POOL AREA THAT WILL BREAK THOSE REGULATIONS.
I LOVE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT STUFF.
IS THERE? IS THERE ANYTHING STAFF WANTED TO ADD TO THAT FOR NOISE? JUST THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO THE CITY'S PERFORMANCE CODES AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT'S BEEN MEMORIALIZED IN THE RESOLUTION.
THE HOURS OF THE OPERATION OF THE LAZY RIVER HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AND THE PERFORMANCE CODES AS WELL. OKAY, GREAT.
AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION, WHICH ACTUALLY JUST CAME TO MY MIND.
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SET BACK IN 1993 TO 94, MY HUSBAND AND I BUILT AN IN-GROUND POOL IN LOEHMANN'S PLAZA FOR OUR PHYSICAL THERAPY OFFICE.AND SO I JUST STARTED THINKING ABOUT THE PROCESS OF WE DID IT THROUGH A LITTLE DOOR, BELIEVE IT OR NOT BACK THEN.
SO I IMAGINE IT'LL BE EASIER FOR YOU GUYS.
WHAT'S THE PROCESS TO GO AHEAD AND DIG? THEY ARE NOW. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO DO SO? OH BOY, I KNOW ERIKA IS IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT WHAT I WOULD SUSPECT WOULD HAPPEN IS, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PARKING LOT KIND OF IN THIS I SUSPECT WORD THAT THE EQUIPMENT WOULD GET OFFLOADED AND THEN THE DIGGING WOULD BE IN THIS AREA.
NOW, JUST A QUICK REMINDER, THIS ISN'T A SUPER DEEP POOL, IT'S A BIG POOL, BUT IT'S ON A SUPER DEEP POOL. THE LAZY RIVERS 36 INCHES DEEP AND THEN THE THE POOL AT THE DEEPEST END IS FIFTY FOUR INCHES.
SO IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LARGE EXCAVATING PROCESS AND IT HAS THAT NICE SLOPED ACCESS AS WELL SO ANYONE CAN GET IN A.
GREAT. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO ZONING, I HAVE ONE OR TWO ZONING QUESTIONS.
IN TERMS OF ACCESS FOR THE HONDA CLASSIC, THERE, OBVIOUSLY JUST GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO AROUND. THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACCESS TO TO PUT ALL OF THEIR STRUCTURES UP BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT IS TO COME AROUND THIS DIRECTION.
THE GOAL IS TO BE DONE BEFORE THE HONDA CLASSIC STARTS, AND IT'S A CONSTRUCTION QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING THIS YEAR.
NO, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO GET APPROVED TODAY.
SO WE GOTTA GO GET BUILDING PERMITS.
NO, WE'RE QUICK, BUT MY GOODNESS.
BUT SO FOR FUTURE, OF COURSE, THERE JUST HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND.
THAT'S THEIR ACCESS. OK, THANK YOU.
OK. STEPH, HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AT THIS TIME.
OK, SO I DO HAVE COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL CALL EVERYONE UP ONE AT A TIME TO THE PODIUM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, FOR THE RECORD.
HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? DO THEY HAVE TO BE SWORN IN? ALL RIGHT. YEAH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU'VE NORMALLY DO, WHICH IS INCORPORATE ALL THE COMMENTS INTO INTO ONE HEARING, IF THESE COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THE LAND USE AMENDMENT, THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN IF HIS COMMENTS RELATE TO THE REZONING OR ANY OF THIS OR ANY OF THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST SWEAR ANYONE IN WHO HAS A CARD, WHATEVER WHAT ANY ONE WHO HAS A CARD IN TO SPEAK, PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN IN BY THE CLERK.
YEAH, WE'RE THEY'RE GOING TO BRING SOME IN TO BE SWORN IN.
WELL, WE'RE TRYING OUR POSITIONS.
THEY JUST THEY JUST KNOW THEY DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR SPEAK.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU, GOD? DO, AND WHEN YOU APPROACH A PODIUM TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THAT YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN AND JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE SMOOTHER.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK EACH TIME THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT ONE. SIR, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. PLEASE, IT'S MIKE GENZEL.
I LIVE AT ONE TWO, SIX COVENTRY PLACE, PALM BEACH GARDENS AND PGA NATIONAL.
I VOLUNTEER A GREAT NUMBER OF HOURS TO TEACHING PICKLEBALL AT AT THE PGA.
AND IN THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE GONE FROM APPROXIMATELY 30 TO 35 PLAYERS TO NOW ABOUT 130 PLAYERS IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE.
WE HAVE TWO REGULATION COURTS AND WE WE USE THE TENNIS COURTS IN A MAKESHIFT PATTERN RIGHT NOW. WE'RE AT A BREAKING POINT IN TERMS OF CONTINUING THE MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET ON THE COURT.
SO RIGHT NOW, BROOKFIELD IS ASKING FOR ONE COURT DOWN THE LINE, HOPEFULLY MORE.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT SPEAK, BUT THEY HERE FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURT, IN ADDITION TO THE LAZY RIVER, WHICH IS WONDERFUL AND THE MEMBERS CLUB. BUT MY CONCERN IS REALLY PICKLEBALL IS GROWING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, JUST HERE IN THE LILAC PARK.
IF YOU DON'T GET THERE BY EIGHT O'CLOCK, YOU'RE NOT PLAYING IN THE MORNING.
SO PEOPLE, AS SOON AS THE LIGHT HITS, THEY'RE COMING AND PGA, IT'S THE SAME THING.
IT'S JUST THE SPORT IS EXPLODING.
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
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MY NAME IS MILES COOLEY, I LIVE AT 30 CAMBRIA ROAD, WEST PALM BEACH GARDENS, PGA NATIONAL. TAKE THIS DOWN, OK? AND YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN AND PARDON ME, YOU HAVE BEEN SEAN ERIC.I WON'T REPEAT A LOT OF WHAT MIKE SAID, BUT I WOULD REITERATE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS A LOT OF THEM AT ROUSSEAU PARK AND AT LILAC.
YOU CAN'T GET ON THOSE COURTS ANYMORE.
IT IS THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT JUST NOW IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH COURTS OVER THERE.
GETTING ONE MORE AT PGA NATIONAL IS NICE.
WE WOULD LIKE A LOT MORE, BUT WE WOULD.
SO I'M JUST HERE IN FAVOR OF THAT PROPOSAL.
JUDY TORY, PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN. YES, JUDY TORY, I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
I'VE BEEN LIVING AT PGA NATIONAL.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
OK, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 21 YEARS AT ONE, SEVEN, SIX OLD METAL WAY.
OK. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES, I'VE BEEN SWORN IN, I SAID THAT AT FIRST.
AT ANY RATE, THE REASON WHY I'D LIKE TO SPEAK, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB AND YOU'RE DESIGNING THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN DISCLOSED AS FAR AS THE NOISE.
IT'S GREAT THAT THE POLLS CLOSE AT DUSK, BUT THE PROBLEM IS IS THEY HAVE EVENTS AROUND THESE POLLS AND THE SPEAKERS ARE TENFOLD LOUD.
I CANNOT SLEEP, GO TO SLEEP AT NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
I'M AT PATIO HOMES, ONE OF THE END BUILDINGS, AND IT'S EVEN FURTHER AWAY THAN WHERE THE EVENTS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE LAZY RIVER.
AND THERE HAS BEEN MORE THAN ONCE.
PROBABLY DOZEN TIMES I'VE HAD TO CALL AFTER 10 O'CLOCK WHERE THERE'S STILL CONTINUE ON WITH THE EVENTS AND THE NOISE.
I DON'T THINK THE FOLIAGE IS ENOUGH FOR A NOISE BUFFER WITH THE EXTRA AREA AND ALL THE EXTRA EVENTS TO BE TAKEN PLACE TO KEEP IT SEPARATE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ARE TRYING TO SLEEP AND BEING DISTURBED.
THE OTHER THING IS, SINCE EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE GOING FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT AS FAR AS THE VALUE OF A RESIDENTIAL LAND, WHICH ADVERSELY AFFECTS ALL HOMEOWNERS.
NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO IS THE TRAFFIC OK? WHEN YOU PUT 80 PLUS MORE HOTELS ROOMS IN A COMPLEX, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC AND NOT THE SAME TRAFFIC.
AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IN OUR HOMEOWNER'S DUES IS TO KEEP THESE ROADS GOOD FOR HONDA CLASSIC, FOR PGA NATIONAL, ET CETERA.
OK, SO ANY CONSIDERATION THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN TRYING TO HELP THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND BUFFERING THE NOISE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU. IT NEEDS MORE THAN JUST FOOLISH, IT NEEDS A BUFFER ZONE.
NOW YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, SO YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU ENJOY THE EVENTS, WHICH IS GREAT, AND WE ALL PUT UP WITH THE HONDA CLASSIC IN HER BACKYARD.
THE GOLF CARTS, THE FENCES, THE OTHER STUFF THAT GOES ON FOR THE CHARITABLE THINGS, BUT HAVE A LITTLE CONSIDERATION FOR THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE HERE DURING THIS, THIS NEW PROJECT, WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
IT'S JUST THIS LITTLE ODDS AND ENDS LIKE NOISE IS THE MAIN THING AND TRAFFIC.
NANCY HAINES, AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
I LIVE AT 303 OLD MEADOW WAY PATIO HOMES.
I'M ANOTHER OWNER THAT'S AFFECTED BY THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH IS THAT THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN THE PRIOR OWNER OWNED THE PROPERTY, THERE WAS QUITE A RUCKUS WILL SAY WITHIN PGA OWNERS WITH THE CHANGES BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO BE A FOUR STORY HOTEL COMPLEX THAT WAS GOING TO BE ADJACENT TO ANOTHER POOL
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AREA. SO WHEN YOU PULL UP THE FOOTPRINT AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PDF DOCUMENTS THAT I SENT YOU AN EMAIL, THIS FOOTPRINT PROVIDES FOR ENOUGH LAND TO NOT JUST PUT THE LAZY POOL IN, BUT IN THE FUTURE TO PUT A HOTEL RIGHT BEHIND THAT.SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING OF THE LAZY POOL TO THE NORTH EAST SIDE OF IT, YOU HAVE TO IMAGINE A FOUR STORY HOTEL COMPLEX PUT IN THERE, OF WHICH IT WILL NOW OVERLOOK PATIO HOMES AND WILL BE WITHIN ABOUT THREE HUNDRED YARDS OF THAT AREA.
SO. WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ZONE PLAN THAT SAYS WHERE ANY FUTURE BUILDINGS WOULD BE PLACED.
AND I THINK IN THE CONCEPT OF APPROVING THIS ZONING CHANGE AND THE WAY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAZY POOL, NO NO LONGER HAVING THE BIG SLIDE.
THOSE FEATURES SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSAL AND REVIEWED SO THAT WE SEE WHAT THAT FOOTPRINT LOOKS LIKE.
OR YOU TAKE THE CURRENT ZONING AND YOU MAKE IT A SMALLER FOOTPRINT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE COST AND THE NEED FOR REVITALIZATION.
I ALSO SAY THAT IT TAKES A LOT OF PAPERWORK TO GET ZONING CHANGE.
SO RETHINK AND AT LEAST PUT IN NOISE ABATEMENT, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WILL BE EVENTS IN THE PRIOR DISCUSSION.
THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A WEDDING CHAPEL DOWN ON THE LAKE AREA, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE USES FOR THAT LAZY POOL.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE NO WAY AT THIS POINT TO ADDRESS THAT AS OWNERS WHEN WE HAVE THAT NOISE. YOU CAN CALL THE LOCAL POLICE, BUT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I NEED TO SAY.
I BELIEVE THAT IT IS GOING TO HURT OUR OUR PROPERTY VALUES, ALTHOUGH THEY MADE THE STUDY THAT SAID WE WOULD NOT HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT.
ONCE YOU PUT THE HOTEL IN PLACE AND YOU NOW HAVE MORE GOLFERS, MORE FAMILIES ON THAT PROPERTY, THERE'S A FIVE MILE LOOP THAT GOES AROUND PGA NATIONAL.
THE EXPENSE OF THAT ROADWAY IS MAINTAINED BY THE OWNERS OF PATIO HOMES AND PGA NATIONAL.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS REVIEW OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A NEW ZONING CHANGE OF PUTTING AN EXPANDED COMMERCIAL FACILITY INSIDE A LONG STANDING GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S A DETRIMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO INCREASE OUR LIFETIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
SKITTLES OUT, I THINK IT'S OUTSIDE.
KEITH AHRONHEIM, 180 OLD MIDDLE WAY.
THANK YOU. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU, GOD? YES, I DO.
CAN WE RESET MY THREE MINUTES? MY SPEECH IS EXACTLY THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I HAVE LIVED IN THE PATIO HOMES FOR OVER 10 YEARS.
ALTHOUGH THE RESORT HAS REMOVED THE SLIDE, THE SIZE OF THE POOL AND THE LAZY RIVER WAS NOT REDUCED ACCORDINGLY.
IN ADDITION, I AM AGAINST THE REZONING OF THE GOLF COURSE TO COMMERCIAL.
AS A RETIRED ATTORNEY, I CURRENTLY SERVE ON FOUR COMMUNITY BOARDS AND CO-CHAIRED THE THREE PROFESSIONAL GOLF EVENTS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.
WHEN I PURCHASED MY UNIT, I PAID A PREMIUM DUE TO THE GOLF COURSE ZONING AND ITS EFFECT AS A BUFFER TO THE RESORT.
LESSENING OF THE BUFFER ZONE AND CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE POOL AND LAZY RIVER WILL RESULT IN A DECREASE OF MY PROPERTY VALUE DUE TO WHAT APPEARS CATEGORIZED AS EXTERNAL OBSOLESCENCE. THE RESULT WAS FULLY AWARE OF THE ZONING WHEN THEY PURCHASED.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A REED ZONE WITHOUT A COMPELLING REASON, AND NO SUCH REASON HAS BEEN FORTHCOMING.
I HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS ON THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION IN THE PROCESS, ALTHOUGH THE POWER COMMITTEE AND THE CITY STAFF HAD INPUT, AT LEAST SEVEN NEIGHBORING ASSOCIATIONS AND NUMEROUS INDIVIDUALS CONTACTED ME TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS THAT THAT THEIR CONCERNS HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.
THIS REPRESENTS HUNDREDS OF MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO THE RESORT.
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YOUR NEIGHBORS QUESTIONS STILL NEED TO BE ANSWERED.HAS THERE BEEN ANY SOIL TESTING TO DETERMINE THE LEVELS OF DANGEROUS ARSENIC IN THE GOLF COURSE SOIL BEING DUG UP WHILE THE PRACTICE IN CHIPPING GREENS BEING RELOCATED? WHERE WILL THE 81 HOTEL ROOMS BE LOCATED? WILL THERE BE FUTURE REQUESTS TO CONVERT THE GOLF COURSE ZONING TO COMMERCIAL? IT IS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THE RESORT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS WITH UNCLEAN HANDS AND ACTED IN BAD FAITH.
THEY HAVE MISREPRESENTED TO THE CITY THAT THE POHA BOARD OF GOVERNORS APPROVED THEIR APPLICATIONS. IN ADDITION, THE RESORT HAS PLACED THE REQUIRED SIGNAGE AT THE ENTRANCES IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY CANNOT BE SEEN IN ALL DIRECTIONS.
FINALLY, ALL OF THE RESORTS ALLEGED ATTEMPTS TO OBTAIN COMMUNITY INPUT, WHICH IS PRESENTATIONS OF WHAT THE RESORT INTENDS TO DO.
THE RESORT FAILED TO DIRECTLY ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
THIS TYPE OF CONDUCT BEGS ONE TO WONDER WHAT ARE THEY HIDING AND WHAT ARE THE REAL INTENTIONS? MY FINAL CONCERN IS APPROVING THE APPLICATIONS AS PRESENTED TONIGHT, MAY OPEN THE CITY TO LIABILITY.
AND LITIGATION FROM HOMEOWNERS DUE TO CREATING EXTERNAL OBSOLESCENCE AND AN UNPERMITTED TAKING LEADING TO A DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES WITH NO CORRESPONDING BENEFITS UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST TO RESORT TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE WATER FEATURE AND REQUEST THE COMMISSIONERS DENY THOSE PARTS OF THE APPLICATION, WHICH EXTEND THE COMMERCIAL ZONING, THUS REDUCING THE BUFFER AND SET AND SETS THE PRECEDENCE OF CONVERTING GOLF COURSE TO COMMERCIAL ZONING WITHOUT A COMPELLING REASON.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MATT MOMAN.
THAT MOMENT, TWENTY FIVE IRONWOOD WAY, I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PGA NATIONAL FOR 23 YEARS, MORE THAN ANY OF THESE PEOPLE IN HERE SO FAR. AND MY DAUGHTER, 14 YEARS OLD, WHO A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE KNOW WHO SHE IS, WE'RE ON THAT PROPERTY EVERY DAY, OK FOR LIKE THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
AND IT'S LIKE WE HAVE THE FRONT ROW SEAT TO A RESORT, A DESTINATION SPOT, A PLACE THAT HAS A NEW CAR SMELL.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE SIGNING UP FOR.
WHEN WE WHEN WE BECAME MEMBERS, WE KNEW THAT THE TILES ON HER HOUSE COULD GET CRACKED BECAUSE OF A FLYING GOLF BALL.
I'M NOT HERE TO TALK NEGATIVE.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT PGA NATIONAL RESORT BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE.
IT'S ALL ABOUT FORWARD THINKING.
IT'S ALL ABOUT OUR ECONOMY, OUR CITY.
LIKE I SAID, I'M THERE EVERY DAY AND I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.
YOU GOT GOLFERS, YOU'VE GOT WEDDINGS.
AGAIN, IT'S A DESTINATION POINT, A SPOT.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE ALL SIGNED UP FOR AS RESIDENTS.
AND SO WHAT THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE FAN WITHOUT A DOUBT IN EVIDENCE DOES DEFEAT DOUBT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 23 YEARS.
MY DAUGHTER HAS BEEN THERE HER WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE.
AND AGAIN, EVERY DAY WE'RE OUT THERE UNLESS WE'RE OUT COMPETING IN ANOTHER DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, EVENTS AND WHATNOT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID AGAIN, EXPANSION IS GREAT.
STATUS QUO ISN'T STATUS QUO IS NOT GOOD FOR US.
SO AGAIN, IT'S ALL ABOUT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHAT'S BEFORE THE NEW OWNERSHIP THAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO ADD TO.
WE HAVE SIX GOLF COURSES, ONE OFF PROPERTY, FIVE ON PROPERTY.
ONE OF THOSE IS A NINE HOLE, THREE, A PAR THREE, WHICH KIND OF MEETS THE MECCA OF GOLF AND PINEHURST, WHICH IS THE CRADLE.
OK? AGAIN, YOU'RE BRINGING IN FAMILIES, YOU'RE CREATING MEMORIES.
IT'S GOING TO STIR UP MORE BUSINESS FOR RESTAURANTS AND LOCAL ECONOMY GOING.
SO BUT THIS WHOLE THING IS RIDICULOUS.
I MEAN, WE'RE ON A LOT OF LAND AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LAZY RIVER, HENCE LAZY.
OK. AND THEN THE MEMBERS CLUB, I MEAN, LOOK, WE NEED THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE HAPPENING, AND ALL I ASK IS FOR A YES ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND NEITHER IS MY DAUGHTER.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. KAREN CANTOR.
GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS KAREN CANTOR, I LIVE AT ONE HUNDRED EAGLETON LANE IN PALM BEACH GARDENS PGA NATIONAL.
I'VE BEEN HERE AS A RESIDENT, THE SHORTEST TIME OF ANYBODY FIVE WEEKS AND AND I HAVE BEEN
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SWORN IN. I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BY PGA. I PLAY PICKLEBALL AND ALREADY I FOUND THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH COURTS FOR ME AND MY HUSBAND TO BE ABLE TO GET ON AT A REASONABLE TIME AND A REASONABLE TIME AND THE OVERALL.THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK, ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT DREW US TO PGA NATIONAL IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN AND CONTINUE THIS AS A PRIME AND TOP FACILITY, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. NANCY, WHY SONIC? GOOD EVENING, NANCY WHITESNAKE, SIX, ZERO NINE, MASTER'S WAY AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS NANCY WYSIWYG.
I AM PRESIDENT OF EAGLETON POINTE AAA AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING ALL OF US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY SAYING THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL CAN TUMOR WITH URBAN DESIGN AND ALL THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN THE DECISION MAKING.
I'M GRATEFUL ON BEHALF OF MY COMMUNITY THAT YOU LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS AND ACTED UPON IT.
WE ALL APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COME TO COMMON GROUNDS ON THE ELIMINATION OF THE WATER SLIDE, AND IT IS A TREMENDOUS ACCOMPLISHMENT TO HAVE BROOKFIELD AND THE RESIDENTS OF PGA NATIONAL WORKING TOGETHER AS PARTNERS GOING FORWARD.
THE KEY TO SUCCESS IS OPEN COMMUNICATIONS AND TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN BOTH PARTIES.
THAT MAKES EVERYTHING WORK, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MS. NICK. OK, THAT WAS THE LAST CARD, IF WE WOULD LIKE STAFF INPUT, IS THIS THE TIME OR DO I HAVE TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND DO THAT DURING A DISCUSSION? YOU CAN. IF YOU WANT STAFF INPUT, YOU CAN CONTINUE STAFF INPUT.
BUT I MEAN, IF YOU'RE COMPLETE WITH YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY CLOSE THIS PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN GO TO STAFF AND THEN GO TO STAFF.
OK. WELL, WE'LL DO THAT WITH WITH STAFF.
OK, SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND FIRST SAY THAT IN 2004, WHEN THE EXTRA ROOMS WERE ADDED ONTO THE PLAN, NONE OF THIS COUNCIL WAS HERE.
BUT AS I READ IN THE STATEMENT FOR THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING, AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON WHAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT, NOT WHAT COULD COME BEFORE US IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT IS NOT PART OF WHAT IS ON THE PLAN TONIGHT AND IS LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO BE ENTERED INTO OUR DECISION WHEN WE VOTE WITH THAT.
NATALIE, COULD YOU CLARIFY, I THINK THERE IS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING THE ZONING IS ACTUALLY BEING CHANGED, THAT IT IS NOT THE ENTIRE RESORT ZONING THAT IS BEING CHANGED, THAT IS A TWO ACRE PIECE THAT'S ACTUALLY BROKEN UP INTO THREE SMALLER PIECES THAT WE ARE CHANGING THE ZONING ON.
I'D BE HAPPY TO. AND WE HAVE AN EXHIBIT THAT THAT SHOWS THE SMALL PORTIONS THAT I THINK WOULD SPEAK VOLUMES TO THAT THAT SAMANTHA CAN CAN BRING UP.
AND AND WHILE WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT, I'D ALSO BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THE SUBJECT OF FUTURE ENTITLEMENTS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS HAS CHOSEN TO PROVIDE FOR A LAZY RIVER WHERE PREVIOUSLY THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE HOTEL WAS APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL, AND THE APPLICANT IS LEGALLY ABLE TO RETAIN THOSE RIGHTS FOR THOSE FUTURE ROOMS AS THEY ARE VESTED ENTITLEMENTS.
BUT IT DOES NOT ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO BYPASS THE CITIES PROCESS FOR FUTURE SITE PLANNING, WHICH EXTENSIVELY INVOLVES PUBLIC INPUT.
SO IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO, AND IF THE APPLICANT EVEN CHOOSES ONE DAY AND AND THAT REALLY IS AN INDEFINITE, THEY MAY NEVER.
AND THERE COULD BE ALL SORTS OF OTHER SCENARIOS WHERE THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, MAY RECONSIDER OR MAY CONSIDER A COMPREHENSIVE REVISION TO THE HOTEL.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S LOTS OF AWKWARD OPPORTUNITIES ON THE EXISTING SITE WHERE THE APPLICANT MAY CHOOSE TO BE ABLE TO APPLY THOSE FUTURE ENTITLEMENTS, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE CITIES PROCESS.
SO THAT INVOLVES A DRC REVIEW THAT INVOLVES PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE PLANNING AND ZONING
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COMMISSION, PUBLIC NOTICE AND CITY COUNCIL.SO IF AND WHEN THE APPLICANT EVER CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE ENTITLEMENTS, THAT PROCESS WILL HAVE TO OCCUR AS IT RELATES TO THE ZONING QUESTION.
SAMANTHA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WALK THE.
COULD YOU ALSO EXPLAIN BEFORE SAMANTHA DOES THAT WHAT COMMERCIAL ZONING MEANS FOR FOR THAT AREA AND WHAT IS IS ALLOWED UNDER THAT, AS I THINK SAMANTHA IS PULLING UP A MAP AND THE REASON WHY THE THE REASON WHY THE COMMERCIAL ZONING IS BEING REQUESTED IS JUST DEALING WITH THE PERMITTED USE.
THE RESORT CARL, THE RESORT CORE USES ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL OR REQUIRED TO BE WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.
THE EXISTING RESORT HAS A COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION, SO FOR INTERNAL CONSISTENCY, THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE REQUESTED CHANGES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS APPLICANT HAS VOLUNTARILY RESTRICTED THE COMMERCIAL ZONING AND LAND USE TO THE NOTE THAT'S INCLUDED AN ORDINANCE 13 TO THE SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE ALREADY VESTED, SO IT DOES NOT OPEN UP COMMERCIAL ZONING AND LAND USE ZONING.
IT IS LIMITED TO THE NOTE THAT WILL BE INCLUDED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN ORDINANCE 13 TO THE ACTUAL PROGRAM THAT IS THE RESORT COURSE PROGRAM MORE SPECIFICALLY SET FORTH IN ORDINANCE 13.
THANK YOU, SAMANTHA. YES, SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MAP IN RED IS THE RESORT PARCEL ON THE LEFT. THE RED IS THE COMMERCIAL ZONING.
SO IT'S IT'S CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL LAND USE AND ZONING AND SURROUNDED BY GOLF IN GREEN.
ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THREE SMALL AREAS BEING ADDED TO THE RESORT PARCEL.
AGAIN, FOR CONSISTENCY, IN ORDER TO ADD THAT LAND TO THE COMMERCIAL RESORT, IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO COMMERCIAL.
SO ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE, WHERE THE LAZY RIVER IS PROPOSED, THAT AREA IS ABOUT ONE POINT FIVE ACRE DOWN BY THE MEMBERS CLUB.
THERE'S A ZERO POINT ZERO TWO ACRE PARCEL AND ON THE EAST, OR EXCUSE ME, ON THE WEST SIDE IS POINT FIVE ACRE ROUGHLY.
AND AGAIN, THE CHANGE OF LAND USE AND ZONING FOR THESE AREAS IS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL RESORT.
AND AS NATALIE MENTIONED, I CAN SHOW YOU THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, WHICH YOU MENTIONED IS IS PART OF ORDINANCE 13.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING USES, OF COURSE, REMAIN THE APPROVED USES.
THE VESTED USES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT ALSO REMAIN ON THE BOOKS, AND THE ONLY ADDITIONS ARE ACCESSORY IN NATURE.
THE GOLF TEACHING FACILITY, WHICH WOULD BE RELOCATED, THE GUARD HOUSE, WHICH IS NEW, AND THE ACCESSORY POOL BUILDINGS.
OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS EXISTING OR APPROVED.
AND LIMITED, THANK YOU, I HOPE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CLEARER ON EXACTLY WHAT THE ZONING QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE VOTING ON DEAL WITH.
SO AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.
I'LL A MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 13, 20 21 ON SECOND READING CARL SECONDS.
I'M GOING TO BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.
I'LL START THIS WAY THIS TIME.
CHELSEA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? YES. SO SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE AREAS THAT WILL HAVE EXPANDED COMMERCIAL ZONING ARE WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON TONIGHT.
ANYTHING FURTHER WOULD GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AGAIN, AND WE KNOW THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH PALM BEACH GARDENS TO GO THROUGH SOMETHING AND WHAT WE GOT HERE.
THE ONE THING I WILL SAY, WHAT I'VE HEARD IS TALK OF BEING BETTER NEIGHBORS AND MORE TRANSPARENCY. I HAVE DONE A REALLY, I THINK, DILIGENT JOB OF KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CORRESPONDENCE.
AND IF THIS WAS IN MY BACKYARD AND I HAD GOTTEN NOTICE ABOUT IT IN FEBRUARY OF 2020, I DON'T I WOULDN'T HAVE WAITED UNTIL EVEN MORE.
OK, SO MY ONLY THING WOULD BE GOING FORWARD AS MORE CHANGES AT THE RESORT.
I HOPE THAT NOW ESPECIALLY CAN PLEASE.
WELL, OBVIOUSLY I WAS DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THIS AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO KEEP COMMUNICATING AN OPEN COMMUNICATION, TWO WAY COMMUNICATION WITH OUR RESIDENTS AS THINGS CHANGE, BECAUSE WE HAD A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF SHOP CORPS COMING IN AND DOING DOWNTOWN PALM BEACH GARDENS, AND THEY WORKED WITH THE LANDMARK AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN UNTIL EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.
AND THAT HAS HAPPENED NOW, BUT IT KIND OF HAD TO HAPPEN IN A TURBO WAY.
SO I LOVE TO GOING FORWARD REALLY ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS TO PAY ATTENTION A LITTLE MORE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING AND FOR THE POWS TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS ARE GETTING THE
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INFORMATION SO THAT OUR STAFF HAS DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB DOING WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO.AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THEM IN BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO SO.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
AND I DO THINK YOU GUYS WILL PROBABLY ASK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT ZONING, AND IF NOT, THEN I'LL COME BACK TO IT. OK, TO ADD JUST QUICKLY WHAT CHELSEA JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE HIGHWAYS. IF THERE ARE INTERNAL PROBLEMS WITH YOUR HOA A'S NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION TO THE RESIDENTS THAT IS PRESENTED TO THEM, THAT IS AN INTERNAL PROBLEM FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO DEAL WITH. YOUR HOA IS AND THERE ARE WAYS TO CHANGE THE PEOPLE WHO SIT IN ON THOSE WHO WAS. SO YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED WHEN AND WHO KNEW WHAT, WHEN.
BUT THAT IS AN INTERNAL PROBLEM THAT IS NOT A CITY PROBLEM.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY EXCITED TO SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE SITTING IN THIS ROOM.
WE HAVEN'T HAD MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. SO WELCOME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CHAMBERS.
ALL JOKING ASIDE, IF THE MEMBERS OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM BROOKFIELD, COULD YOU PLEASE STAND? THANK YOU.
I'VE NEVER MET YOU, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
YOU CAN SIT DOWN. BUT THE REASON I WANTED TO JUST SAY HELLO.
YOU KNOW, CHELSEA JUST BROUGHT UP THE POINT ABOUT SHOP CORE AND DOWNTOWN.
PGA NATIONAL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PROPERTY IN MY MIND IN THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS BECAUSE OF THE HONDA CLASSIC AND WHAT IT BRINGS TO THE CITY, THE RESORT, THE FAMILY ATMOSPHERE THAT SURROUNDS IT.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, YOU THINK OF GOLF, YOU THINK OF PGA.
SO YOUR PROPERTY IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US IN THIS CITY, NOT JUST THOSE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA, INCLUDING THE HONDA CLASSIC AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT, AS CARL SAID, LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A PART OF THAT EVENT HERE.
SO WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY, AS YOU CAN TELL, AND OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE ARE TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PICKING OR BEEN KILLED A DESIGN.
IS THAT RIGHT, KEN? BECAUSE YOU PICKED A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY UNDERSTAND THE CITY? AND I THINK THE KEY TO HOW OUR CITY WORKS SO WELL IS THAT THOSE ENTITIES THAT PURCHASE PROPERTIES ARE WANT TO DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY, PICK PEOPLE IN OUR CITY THAT LIVE HERE, THAT KNOW THE AREA THAT ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY CARE AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE PROPERTY, THE SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT AND THE SUCCESS THAT THAT'S GOING TO BRING TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
SO WHEN WHEN YOU GUYS FIRST CAME INTO TOWN, I KNOW COVID WAS IN THE WAY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY ENGAGED WITH THE COUNCIL, WITH THE CITY STAFF, WITH THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.
I DO LIVE IN PGA AS WELL AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST DONE RIGHT, BUT THAT EVERYBODY FEELS THE SAME SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT THAT THAT IT BRINGS.
AND YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THANK KEN, YOU KNOW, HE KIND OF GOT GOT STUCK WITH THIS PROJECT RIGHT TOWARDS THE END, EVEN THOUGH HE IS THE BOSS.
SO HE ALWAYS, ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THERE.
BUT HE REALLY DID A WONDERFUL JOB REACHING OUT TO THE RESIDENTS, REACHING OUT TO ALL OF US, COMMUNICATING STRONGLY WITH ALL OF YOU ABOUT WHAT IS NEEDED AND ULTIMATELY, CAN.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT? I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING TO CHANGE IN MY BACKYARD AND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE? AND IS THIS GOING TO LEAD TO PROBLEMS THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT? BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS KNOW AS MUCH AS WE CAN ABOUT THE VALUE OF WHAT'S COMING AND WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT EVERYBODY AS BEST WE CAN.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE A A PARTY ONE NIGHT AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME KID SCREAMING AND YELLING AND YOU MIGHT HEAR IT IN YOUR BACK PATIO.
BUT MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD THING TO SOMETIMES LISTENING TO KIDS YELL AND SCREAM, BECAUSE THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME.
I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC ADDITION TO THE PGA RESORT.
I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS DELAY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PASS THIS TONIGHT.
I'M HOPING WE CAN DO IT IN UNISON TO SHOW STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR RESORT AND MY HOME RESORTS. SO I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERYBODY'S INPUT.
I DON'T THINK I CAN TOP YOU TWO.
BUT, YEAH, NO, I'M JUST GOING TO BE CARL.
LISTEN, YOU GUYS ELECT US AND THE COOL THING ABOUT THAT IS WE ALL LIVE HERE.
NOW I KNOW I'VE PROBABLY BEEN HERE OF UPWARDS OF 40 YEARS, AND I BET YOU IF WE WERE TO
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INCLUDE MARCIE, WE PROBABLY HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS BETWEEN ALL OF US, MAYBE MORE SO.AND WHEN WE GET INTO THE I HATE TO USE THE WORD POLITICS, BUT WHEN WE GET INTO RUNNING FOR FOUR CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HYPERSENSITIVE AND WE ALL ARE TO OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS. SO I THINK IF WE HAVE A NOISE ISSUE, MAN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT, KEN, AND YOU KNOW, AND NATALIE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SLEEP AT TEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND.
BUT I LIKE THE PROJECT AND I FORGOT YOUR NAME.
I APOLOGIZE. AND WHAT YOU SAID KIND OF NAILS IT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PALM BEACH GARDENS IS BECOMING IT'LL NEVER BE MIAMI OR BROWARD, I PROMISE.
BUT IT'S REALLY BECOMING A DESTINATION IN LARGE PART OF THE HONDA CLASSIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE PROVIDE 80 ACRES OF SOCCER FIELDS AND YOU NAME IT.
SO IN ORDER TO MAKE PGA NATIONAL GROW AND BECOME.
THIS. GREAT THING THAT IT'S BEEN FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S IMPORTANT WE KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD WHILE BEING SENSITIVE TO OUR OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.
I DON'T AGREE THAT IT WOULD LOWER YOUR PROPERTY VALUE IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY VALUE OVER THE LAST MANY YEARS BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
IT'S GONE UP A LOT TO THE TUNE.
IT'S GETTING EXHAUSTING TO PAY YOUR COUNTY TAXES, BUT YOUR PROPERTY VALUE IS GOING UP.
SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT, AS IS.
I SUPPORT MARK AND AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE GET THIS GOING.
SO IT'S DONE PRIOR TO OUR BIGGEST EVENT OF THE YEAR, CHRISTMAS IN FEBRUARY.
SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONCE IT'S DONE, IT WILL ENHANCE PGA NATIONAL AS A WHOLE.
SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY COMING IN AND SAYING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GET EMAILS, WE GET PHONE CALLS.
AND LIKE MARK SAID, I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO THINK ABOUT PUTTING ALL THE SEATS BACK IN HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE COUNTY TO INTERACT WITH US.
SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PAID FOR US.
FIVE, RIGHT? THANK YOU. THANKS, CARL.
GETTING TO THE PLANS THAT WE NOW HAVE TOOK A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY, THE APPLICANT, THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, CITY STAFF, MYSELF AND MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M SURE KAN WILL AGREE, WHICH IN THE END RESULTED IN A PLAN WITH CONCESSIONS ON BOTH SIDES. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL WHO WERE INVOLVED, INCLUDING THE RESIDENTS OF PGA NATIONAL AND THE GOLF CLUB MEMBERS WHO LET THEIR CONCERNS BE KNOWN AND THOSE WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT.
THOSE CONCESSIONS THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THE WATERSLIDE.
IT WAS A KEY FEATURE OF THEIR REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, BUT UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE FROM THE COMMUNITY, CLUB AND COUNCIL, THEY REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SOMETHING THAT WASN'T DISCUSSED FULLY IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THE SLIDE IS GONE, THE LANDSCAPING ENHANCEMENTS ALL REMAIN.
THAT IS A REALLY THICK, BIG BUFFER AROUND THAT POOL AREA THAT DOESN'T EXIST AROUND THE OTHER POOL AREA.
SO THIS POOL'S MORE INSULATED FROM NOISE THAN THE OTHER POOLS ACTUALLY IS AT THIS POINT.
AND AS ADDRESSED IN CONDITION 19, WHICH WAS PART OF THE PACKET THAT WAS SENT OUT, OUR CITY FORESTER HAS SAY OVER WHETHER THOSE TREES AND LANDSCAPING MEET THE DESIRED INTENT OF A NOISE AND VISUAL BARRIER, AND HE CAN REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO MAKE ADDITIONS OR CHANGES TO THE HEIGHTS OR DENSITY IF HE THINKS IT'S NEEDED.
THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THE NEW POOL AREA VIA THE GOLF CART PATH ONLY THROUGH THE HOTEL.
SO FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, THE WATER, ALLIGATORS, GOLF CARTS ARE NO LONGER A POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUE.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS STILL SOME DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GOLF MEMBERS AND THE APPLICANT WITH RESPECT TO THE PLANS FOR THE GOLF COURSE.
THE ISSUE OF ACCESS TO A RESTROOM FOR THE GOLFERS DIRECTLY FROM THE GOLF PATH HAS BEEN RECTIFIED AND A NEW GOLF TEACHING FACILITY IS IS BEING PROPOSED, AS WELL AS THE DRIVING RANGES BEING RETAINED.
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ONE GOOD THING ABOUT EVERYBODY BEING HERE TONIGHT AND I ECHO MARK'S SENTIMENT, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT PEOPLE AGAIN.IT IS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ALL OFTEN WALK A VERY FINE LINE BETWEEN WHAT IS GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND WHAT A DEVELOPER OR BUSINESS OWNER HAS A RIGHT TO DETERMINE WITH RESPECT TO THEIR BUSINESS OPERATING PLAN.
THAT LINE WAS DEFINITELY THERE FOR THIS PROJECT, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE A PROJECT FITS WITH OUR COMP PLAN FOR THE CITY, OUR SAFETY ISSUES, OUR CODE ORDINANCES AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THESE ARE THINGS THAT AS A COUNCIL WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN WE VOTE, WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE A PROJECT.
BUT THOSE THINGS THAT DIRECTLY RELATE TO A COMPANY'S BUSINESS OR OPERATIONS PLAN OUTSIDE OF THE ISSUES I MENTIONED IS NOT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COUNCIL WHEN APPROVING A PROJECT, WHEN THEIR BOARDS AND MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT WORK WITH THE BUSINESS AND HAVE TO REPORT TO A BUSINESS SOLVING DIFFERENCES RELATING TO A BUSINESS PLAN OR MODEL, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE WHAT THE COMPANY DOES WITH ITS GOLF COURSES OR WITH ITS HOTELS AND OTHER FACILITIES. SOLVING THOSE DIFFERENCES FALL ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE BOARDS AND THE APPLICANT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GOLF BOARD AND MEMBERS HAVE ISSUES RELATED TO THE GOLF COURSE AND SOME THAT AREN'T EVEN RELATED TO THIS PROJECT, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER LIKE EVERYONE HAS TO THIS POINT TO COME TO AN AMICABLE SOLUTION WITH RESPECT TO THOSE ISSUES THAT WILL BENEFIT ALL INVOLVED PGA NATIONALS.
MY HOME, WE MOVED HERE THIRTY FOUR YEARS AGO.
THE PGA NATIONAL RESORT PROPERTY, IT WAS A MARRIOTT AT THE TIME, WAS A HUGE SOURCE OF OF PRIDE FUN FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND MY FAMILY.
WITH THE ADDITION OF THE HONDA CLASSIC, A TOURNAMENT THAT GIVES SO MUCH BACK TO LOCAL CHARITIES AND FINANCIALLY TO OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, WE'RE NOW INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN AS WELL. SO I AM PROUD OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE STILL ARE AND PROUD TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS IN KEEPING THE PGA NATIONAL RESORT, THE PREMIER GOLF AND FAMILY DESTINATION IT HAS ALWAYS STRIVE TO BE, AND FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE PROJECT.
SO AT THIS TIME, I THINK WE NEED A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
AND HE OPPOSED POST MOTION PASSES FOR ZERO.
DO WE HAVE TO REED? WE HAVE TO REED 14 AND GO ON FROM THERE, RIGHT? OK, WELL, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE ORDINANCE 14, 2021 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA REZONING CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY SUCH PROPERTY BEING COMPRISED OF TWO POINT ZERO EIGHT ACRES IN SIZE, MORE OR LESS AND LOCATED WITHIN PGA NATIONAL, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PGA RESORT CORE AT THE SOUTHERN TERMINATING END OF AVENUE OF THE CHAMPIONS, APPROXIMATELY ZERO POINT FIVE ZERO MILES SOUTH OF PGA BOULEVARD, PROVIDING THAT THESE PARCELS OF REAL PROPERTY THAT ARE MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN SHALL BE REZONED FROM PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
PCDI OVERLAY WITH AN UNDERLYING GOLF USES TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
PUDI OVERLAY WITH UNDERLYING HOTEL, RECREATIONAL AND INCIDENTAL FACILITIES RELATED THERE TO PROVIDING THAT THE ZONING MAP OF THE CITY PALM BEACH GARDENS BE AMENDED ACCORDINGLY, PROVIDING A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
RESOLUTION SIXTY TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE AND RESOLUTION SIXTY ONE TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE ARE COMPANION ITEMS TO ORDINANCE 13, 2021 AND ORDINANCE 14 20 21 AND WILL REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION RESOLUTION SIXTY TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE A RESOLUTION IN THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE PGA NATIONAL PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PCD MASTER PLAN, LOCATED EAST OF THE FLORIDA TURNPIKE BETWEEN PGA BOULEVARD AND NORTH LAKE BOARD IS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN TO PERMIT APPROXIMATELY TWO
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POINT ZERO EIGHT ACRES TO BE REED DESIGNATED FROM THE GOLF COURSES PORTION TO THE PGA NATIONAL HOTEL AND CLUBS PORTION OF THE PLAN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR THE PURPOSES RESOLUTION 61 20 21.A RESOLUTION IN THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PGA RESORT CORE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUDI, LOCATED WITHIN PGA NATIONAL AT THE SOUTHERN TERMINATING END OF AVENUE OF THE CHAMPIONS, APPROXIMATELY 0.5 ZERO MILES SOUTH OF PGA BOULEVARD, TO EXPAND THE PUDDY BOUNDARY BY APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT ZERO EIGHT ACRES. MODIFY EXISTING FACILITIES AND INTRODUCE NEW AMENITIES, PROVIDING WAIVERS.
PROVIDING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
OK, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE HEARING AND JUST BEFORE YOU CLOSE IT, WE HAVE TO INCORPORATE ALL THE ALL THE COMMENTS AND TESTIMONY FROM ORDINANCE 13 INTO ORDINANCE 14, INCLUDING THE EXPERTIZE AND RESOURCES.
OK, DO WE NEED A PRESENTATION ON ALL THESE? NO, WE'VE HAD EVERYTHING GOOD.
WE'RE GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE? NO. YES.
ALL RIGHT. THEN, CAN I GET A MOTION? AND SECOND TO APPROVE APPROVE ORDINANCE 14, 20 21 SECOND READING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO A SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN. THE CLERK HAS ALREADY READ THE TITLE FOR RESOLUTION 60, SO WE NEED A VOTE ON JUNE 14.
ALL RIGHT. I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I'M BRINGING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.
ANY HEARING? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR.
CLARKE HAS ALREADY REED THE TITLE FOR RESOLUTION 60.
I'M GOING TO OPEN THE HEARING AND WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE ALL THE COMMENTS AND EXPERTIZE, AS WELL AS THE TESTIMONY OFFERED ON ORDINANCE 13 INTO RESOLUTION 60 TO ONLY 60. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL STAFF PRESENTATION.
I HAVE NO COMMENT CARDS AT THIS POINT.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION.
WELL, SECOND, I'M BRINGING IT BACK AND DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR.
I IN POST MOTION PASSES FOR ZERO RESOLUTION.
CLARKE HAS ALREADY REED THE TITLE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN THE HEARING.
WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE ALL THE COMMENTS AND TESTIMONY AND EXPERT DISCLOSURES FROM ORDINANCE 13 INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A RESOLUTION SIXTY ONE.
AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY HAD STAFF PRESENTATION.
I HAVE NO MORE COMMENT CARDS ON THIS.
CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION? SIXTY ONE TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
CARL SECOND. BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION, THEN HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR. I MOST AND THE OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FOR ZERO.
THANK YOU. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE YEARS OF WORK.
OK. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR RESOLUTION SIXTY NINE RESOLUTION SIXTY NINE TWENTY TWENTY ONE?
[IX.a. RESOLUTION 69, 2021 – PROHIBITING BALLOONS, GLITTER, AND CONFETTI PRODUCTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, PROHIBITING THE USE OF BALLOONS, GLITTER, AND CONFETTI PRODUCTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, DIRECTING CITY ADMINISTRATION TO NEGOTIATE "NO BALLOONS, GLITTER, OR CONFETTI PRODUCTS" IN APPLICABLE CITY CONTRACTS, AND ENCOURAGING ALL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE USE OF BALLOONS, GLITTER, AND CONFETTI PRODUCTS; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
A RESOLUTION PASSED RESOLUTION IN THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, PROHIBITING THE USE OF BALLOONS, GLITTER AND CONFETTI PRODUCTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. DIRECTING CITY ADMINISTRATION TO NEGOTIATE NO BALLOONS, GLITTER OR CONFETTI PRODUCTS IN APPLICABLE CITY CONTRACTS.AND ENCOURAGING ALL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE USE OF BALLOONS, GLITTER AND CONFETTI PRODUCTS, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. I HAVE ONE COMMENT CARD ON RESOLUTION SIXTY NINE.
WILL MR. EVANS PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN? OH, IT'S NOT A QUASI JUDICIAL KNOWN ADDRESS.
I AM. I RESIDE AT 19 ON ONE MILITARY TRAIL, WEST PALM BEACH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS THIS EVENING AND YES, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
GOOD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND KENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME'S EDWARD. LIKE I SAID, I'M THE STORE TEAM LEADER FOR PARTY CITY IN WEST PALM BEACH. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE RESOLUTION RELATED TO BALLOONS, SPECIFICALLY SECTION THREE OF THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF BALLOONS AND SECTION FIVE, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE REDUCTION OF THE SALE AND USE OF BALLOONS BY RESIDENTS
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AND BUSINESS BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY.WE RECOGNIZE THE GOOD INTENTION BEHIND THE PROPOSAL AND SHARE THE THE PRIORITY OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT BELIEVE THAT THE RESOLUTION WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT RETAILERS IN YOUR AREA AND MAY NOT BE SUPPORTED BY MOST OF YOUR CONSUMER CONSTITUENTS.
BALLOONS CREATE JOY, EVEN MORE SO DURING THE DURING A PANDEMIC.
AND THEY'RE AN AFFORDABLE ALTERNATIVE.
ALTERNATIVE TO DECORATING AND CELEBRITY CELEBRATING EVENTS.
IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT BALLOONS HAVE NOT BEEN MENTIONED IN ANY OF THE TOP 10 LISTS FOR CLEANING FOR CLEANUP, INCLUDING STUDIES FROM TWENTY THIRTEEN TO TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
FORM THE OFFICIAL SOURCE OF THE U.S.
ALSO, EIGHT, 15 CLEANUP STUDIES IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE FROM SURFSIDE ARE A NONPROFIT GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO THE PROTECTION AND.
ENJOYMENT OF WAR, OUR WORLD'S OCEANS, WAVES AND BEACHES.
I HAVE COPIES OF A BALLOON FACT SHEET, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM, I CAN PASS THEM OUT LATER.
AVAILABLE FOR INFORMATION ON THESE STUDIES, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
THIS SAME BALLOON FACT SHEET WAS EMAILED TO YOU YESTERDAY, RATHER THAN RATHER THAN BANNING THE USE OF BALLOONS, WE ADVOCATE THE EXPANDED CONSUMER EDUCATION EFFORTS, RECYCLING PROGRAMS, EDUCATING CONSUMERS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF PREVENTING BALLOONS BEING RELEASED. CHANGES BEHAVIOR AND.
AND RAISES AWARENESS OF THE PART WE ALL PLAY IN THE.
AND THE PROTECTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
PARTY CITY IS A CHAMPION OF PROPER USE AND DISPOSAL OF BALLOONS, INCLUDING WEIGHTS, WEIGHTING THEM DOWN AND NOT INTENTIONALLY RELEASING THEM OUTDOORS.
RETAILERS RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ENVIRONMENTAL USES AND PARTY CITY LAUNCHED A BALLOON RECYCLING PROGRAM PILOT.
OK, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP.
THAT'S RIGHT. SO THANK YOU, MR. TREVOR. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO FURTHER CARDS ON THIS.
CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO A APPROVE RESOLUTION.
CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL MAKE THE SECOND I WANT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, OK? AND I WILL BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.
I'M GOING TO START WITH CHELSEA.
SURE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS. PALM BEACH GARDENS, AS YOU KNOW, IS WE'RE COMMITTED TO SUSTAINABLE GROWTH.
OUR CITY WANTS TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE NEW DEVELOPMENT MOBILITY EFFORTS, BUT WE ALSO REMAIN CONSCIOUS OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF OUR ENVIRONMENT BY THESE THINGS.
SO OUR ECONOMY IS DRIVEN BY LOCAL NATURAL RESOURCES, WHICH ATTRACT BUSINESSES AND VISITORS AND FAMILIES TO OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.
WE CANNOT RISK FURTHER DAMAGING OR DEPLETING THESE RESOURCES WHEN OTHER VIABLE OPTIONS READILY EXIST.
ALSO, THE STATE HAS PREEMPTED OUR LOCAL RIGHTS ON COUNTLESS DECISIONS WHERE OUR LOCAL VOICES ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO MAKE LOCAL CHOICES.
THESE THREE ITEMS MAY SEEM SMALL CONFETTI, BALLOONS AND GLITTER, BUT THEY'RE THE LAST VESTIGES OF THE DECISIONS THAT A LOCAL CITY CAN ACTUALLY MAKE IN COUNCIL IN FLORIDA.
WHILE MANY THINGS THAT ARE GOVERNED AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE HERE HAVE THE ABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE THESE FEW SMALL THINGS, WHICH CAN MAKE A LARGE AND MEANINGFUL IMPACT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO SHOW YOU ALL THE GORY PICTURES THAT WERE SENT TO US VIA EMAIL, ASKING US TO PLEASE REMOVE THESE ITEMS FROM OUR CITY PROPERTY.
THE MORE PRECIOUS POWERS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY ARE OUR HOME RULE POWERS AND THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE POLICY HERE AT HOME WITHOUT STATE APPROVAL.
THIS IS REALLY THE LAST WE CAN DO.
I BELIEVE WE'RE UP TO OVER 30 MUNICIPALITIES IN FLORIDA HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS.
WE KNOW THESE ARE HARMFUL ITEMS IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WE GET IMAGES FROM GOLFERS ALL THE TIME WITH BALLOONS THAT HAVE BEEN LITTERED ALL OVER THE WATERWAYS AND ENTANGLING ANIMALS.
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AS A CITY, WE CAN MAKE A STATEMENT THAT WE ARE MINDFUL OF THIS AND WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF HARMFUL POLLUTANTS AND THREATS TO OUR NATURE.LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE SMALL PIECES OF GLITTER, EXCUSE ME, SMALL PIECES OF PLASTIC MATERIAL. THEY ARE NOT BIODEGRADABLE.
THEY WHEN THEY'RE OUTSIDE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO COLLECT FOR DISPOSAL, BECOMES LITTER AND BECOMES A LONG TERM HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.
THEY ARE LIGHTWEIGHT, THOUGH AN ESCAPE COLLECTION, AND DO BECOME LITTER AND CAN FLOAT ON WATER THROUGH THE AIR FOR FAR DISTANCE FROM THE SITE OF THEIR ORIGINAL USE.
AND FOR THIS REASON, THAT'S WHY THEY ARE COMMON.
THEY MAY CREATE JOY FOR A MOMENT, BUT THEY CAN KILL ANIMALS, THEY CAN HURT OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND THERE ARE SO MANY WONDERFUL CREATIVE WAYS ANY BUSINESS COULD CHANGE THINGS AND MAKE THINGS BETTER.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BALLOON FACT SHEET, AND FOR EVERY FACT ON THAT FACT SHEETS, THERE'S OTHER FACT SHEETS THAT SAY THAT FACT SHEETS NOT TRUE.
SO LET'S LET'S MAKE A COLLABORATIVE DECISION TOGETHER TO BECOME CREATIVE AND FIND OTHER WAYS TO MAKE JOY THAT WON'T HURT THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD CHANGE SOMETHING SO SMALL THAT WOULD HAVE MASSIVE EFFECT AND ALSO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT HERE WE DO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND PALM BEACH GARDENS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE NEED A BEAUTIFUL WAY TO MARK IMPORTANT EVENTS.
LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR CONFETTI AND GLITTER AND BALLOONS THAT DON'T CAUSE ECOLOGICAL HARM.
AND IT'S JUST, LIKE YOU SAID, PUBLIC EDUCATION.
SO WE'LL JUST EDUCATE THE PUBLICS TO MAYBE, MAYBE NOT DO THAT, MAYBE BE A PERSON OUT THERE WHO CHANGES IT AND MAKES IT BETTER INSTEAD OF JUST FALLING INTO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION.
IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE, AND ORDINANCE IS LAW.
IT COULD BE OUR POLICY AND HOW OUR CITY COUNCIL FEELS.
THE CITY SHOULD MANAGE THESE THINGS, AND WE'RE ENCOURAGING THE REDUCTION OF SALE AND USE OF BALLOONS, GLITTER AND CONFETTI.
THIS RESOLUTION DOESN'T BAN IT.
ALL RIGHT. SO BEFORE BEFORE IT TURNS INTO A.
BAN, IT'S LET'S THINK OF IT AS AN EDUCATION BY NOT HAVING IT ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, OUR CITY IS SAYING, NO, WE ACTUALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
WE WANT TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT.
AND THAT IS WHY I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE MY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS AND PASS RESOLUTIONS. 69 TO 20 21.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHELSEA MARCIE.
YOU'VE BEEN QUIET FOR A WHILE, SO I'M GOING TO YOU NEXT.
I LOVE YOUR HEART AND YOUR COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE AND THE ENVIRONMENT, FOR SURE, AND I'M GLAD THAT PEOPLE ARE HERE PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR BUSINESS AT HAND, HAVING SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE HERE TODAY AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR COMING AS WELL.
IT'S I THINK WE'VE RECEIVED MORE EMAILS ON SLIDES AND BALLOONS THAN WE HAVE ON ANY OTHER SUBJECT THIS PAST YEAR.
YES, WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT ON THAT AS WELL.
I DO FEEL THAT BALLOONS, CONFETTI AND GLITTER ARE A HAZARD TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT THAT'S NOT ALONG WITH MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE FIND ON THE STREETS. BUT AS I THINK OUR MAYOR VERY ELOQUENTLY SAID, NOT THAT LONG AGO, YOU KNOW, WE THERE'S A FINE LINE.
AND WHERE DOES GOVERNMENT START AND WHERE DOES GOVERNMENT STOP? I ALSO FEEL WITH ENFORCEMENT SOME OF THE STUFF IN THIS RESOLUTION, AND I AND I READ IT AND I'VE CONTEMPLATED IT AND I SPOKE TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A VERY DELICATE AND SERIOUS MATTER, BUT IT DOES PUT OUR CITY, OUR CITY MANAGER IN SOME CASES AND OUR POLICE, IN MY OPINION, IN A KIND OF AN AWKWARD SITUATION WHEN THEY'RE AT A PARK, WHEN THEIR ONE PERSON WANTS, YOU KNOW, A BIRTHDAY PARTY IS IN A BIRTHDAY PARTY AND BALLOONS ARE THERE.
AND WHAT IS THE POLICE GO AND SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE BALLOONS THERE OR CITY MANAGER GETS SOMEBODY THAT SAYS, WE WANT.
THIS IS THE REASON THAT WE WANT BALLOONS AT THIS EVENT IN THE CITY COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THEN HE HAS TO MAKE A DECISION AND PICK ONE OVER ANOTHER.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT IT SAYS.
AND HERE I ALSO FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BE EDUCATING THE PROPER DISPOSAL.
I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE SOME EDUCATION MATERIAL, POSSIBLY IN OUR CITY MAGAZINE.
AND I FEEL THAT AS A BUSINESS PERSON, I MORALLY CAN'T ASK A RETAILER TO NOT SELL OR TO REDUCE THE SALE OF SOMETHING THAT IS LEGALLY SOLD.
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I FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY A TOUGH LINE.SO AND HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, I'VE SPENT SOME TIME IN THE ICU OF A HOSPITAL VERY RECENTLY, AND I SEE YOU PACK YOU IN CCU.
THEY DON'T ALLOW FLOWERS, IT SEEMS. ALLOW BALLOONS BECAUSE FLOWERS ARE JUST AND MAYBE RACHELLE KNOWS THE REASON, BUT I'M GUESSING IT HAS TO DO WITH THE PATIENT'S HEALTH AND FLOWERS.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A HOSPITAL HERE AND I FEEL LIKE REDUCING THAT.
IT WOULD BE TOUGH ON FOR THAT AS WELL.
I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT SOMETHING, BUT I WOULD.
I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO ELIMINATE SECTION FIVE FROM IT.
I WOULD STRIKE THAT AND STRIKE THE SECTION IN REGARDS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND MAYBE ADD SOME MORE LANGUAGE ABOUT ENCOURAGEMENT.
SO MAYBE WE COULD REWORD IT TO WHERE IT'S ENCOURAGING AND EDUCATING VERSUS VERSUS WHAT IT SAYS NOW, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
MARK, I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
WELL, YEAH, I THANK YOU FOR COMING.
I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, TOO, SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE ARE THE, YOU KNOW, THE BACKBONE OF AMERICA, AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO HURT YOU OR ANY OTHER SMALL BUSINESS IN THE CITY.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A RESOLUTION.
RESOLUTIONS ARE POLICY DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE THAT DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF STANDING.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE PUTTING A POLICE IN A POSITION TO ENFORCE SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD OTHER ISSUES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE COME TO US ASKING FOR ORDINANCES WHEN IT CAME TO GUN SALES, WHEN IT CAME TO ANIMALS AND CIRCUSES, WHEN IT CAME TO CONVERSION THERAPY. AND MY COMMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT.
WE CAN'T ENFORCE SOMETHING AT THE CITY IF IT'S NOT ENFORCED AT A HIGHER LEVEL, WHICH IS WHY I'VE BEEN MORE SUPPORTIVE OF RESOLUTIONS BECAUSE RESOLUTIONS ARE NOT FORCING US OR FORCING OUR STAFF TO GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING THAT IS IN A CAN, POTENTIALLY IN OPPOSITION TO WHAT THE STATE LAW STATES.
SO THIS IS NOT AN ORDINANCE, THIS IS A RESOLUTION.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE HERE IN THE CHAMBER, AND THEIR JOB IS TO COME TO NOT JUST THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, BUT ALL THE COMMUNITIES AND ALL THE CITIES IN NORTH PALM BEACH COUNTY WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU KNOW, LAST NIGHT WE HAD OUR FIRST OF MANY HOLIDAY PARTIES, WHICH WAS REALLY EARLY IN THE YEAR. BUT YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MY FRIENDS ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE GUYS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO BIG TIME OUTDOORSMAN AND FISHERMEN.
AND I WAS WE WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RYAN ROGERS CASE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THEY ASKED, WHAT WHAT DO YOU GUYS DO ANYMORE? SO P.J. NATIONAL AND BALLOONS AND GLITTER.
AND THEY BOTH STOPPED AND LOOKED AT ME BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE GO FISHING, WE SEE WE SEE A TURTLE OR IF WE SEE FISH OR SOMETHING WITH A BALLOON OR SOMETHING STUCK IN THE BACK OF THERE. AND IT'S AND IT WASN'T JUST BALLOONS, IT WAS JUST DEBRIS.
AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT KIND OF HIT ME AS WELL KIND OF SHOCKED ME TO THINK THAT THESE GUYS WHO, YOU KNOW, WE GET ALONG VERY WELL, BUT WE DON'T GET ALONG POLITICALLY ALL THE TIME. THEY WERE KIND OF VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF OF MOVING THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT.
I WOULD HOPE THAT PARTY CITY AND ALL THE OTHER RETAILERS OUT THERE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE GOT OTHER WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN SELL THAT CAN MAYBE GIVE THE SAME JOY AS A BALLOON. AND AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I CAN'T GO AND BUY BALLOONS AND COME TO MY HOME AND HAVE A BIRTHDAY PARTY.
IT JUST MEANS THAT WE'RE DISCOURAGING THAT ON CITY PROPERTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY, REALLY RESPECT CHELSEA FOR HER PASSION ON THIS, AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT YOU. CARL, EDWARD, THANK YOU.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE OUT OF PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY EMAILS WE'VE GOTTEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS ON THIS TOPIC TO STAND UP HERE AND SAY YOUR PIECE.
SO TWENTY FIVE MINUTES AGO, I SAID IT WAS HYPERSENSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AND AND THAT'S TRUE. I'M NOT HYPERSENSITIVE ON THIS.
I GET TO LEAN ON CHELSEA BEING SENSITIVE ON ON THIS AND I RESPECT THAT.
IF IT WAS AN ORDINANCE, I WOULDN'T BE FOR IT AT ALL.
PERIOD. I DO AGREE WITH EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ON ON AND I'M ALSO SUPER PRO-CHOICE.
EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE A CHOICE.
WHETHER I'M GOING TO A CHRISTMAS PARTY SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, AND OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND I BROUGHT IN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO A BIG VETERAN COMMUNITY AND WE REALLY SUPPORT OUR VETERANS. SO I THINK ON MY MIND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HANDICAPPED FIELD BEHIND US, TOO.
YOU KNOW, BALLOONS ARE A PART OF OUR LIFE AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE.
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SO I WOULD RATHER TAKE THE APPROACH OF EDUCATION AND CHOICE THAN AN ORDINANCE SAYING, NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT.I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY BALLOONS ARE SOLD A YEAR.
I MEAN, SO IT IS A PART OF OUR ECONOMY, YOU KNOW, ON SOME LEVEL.
SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE ABOVE ALL OF THIS, I'M PROBABLY AS BIG AS AN ANIMAL LOVER THAN ANYBODY.
AND TO SEE AN ANIMAL SUFFER REALLY JUST BREAKS MY HEART, YOU KNOW? SO, YOU KNOW, WE WILL LET THE CITY MANAGER DO WHAT HE DOES.
I LIKE MARCIE SAYS I PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF LAW ENFORCEMENT COMING TO ONE OF OUR CITY PARKS AND TELLING A PICNIC BIRTHDAY PARTY OF A TEN YEAR OLD.
SO BUT I WILL SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT'S A BIGGER PICTURE AND I APPRECIATE THE EDUCATION ASPECT OF IT.
LIKE, LIKE EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE GOVERNMENT STOPS AND AND COUNCIL RIGHT AT THE RESOLUTION NOR ORDINANCE WOULD BE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING YOU.
LIKE WE'VE USED TONIGHT, THE WORD NEIGHBORLY, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S LOOK AT THIS, YOU HAVE A CHOICE.
YOU KNOW, THE COUNCILS IN SUPPORT OF LESS USAGE OF THESE PRODUCTS BECAUSE THEY'RE HARMFUL TO THEIR ENVIRONMENT. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I SIT.
SO I APPRECIATE CHELSEA CHARGING AT THIS FOR SO LONG AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT HER FOR IT.
THANKS, CARL. I'M GLAD MARK BROUGHT UP THE CHAMBER'S SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE AS PAST CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE.
WE WORK WITH PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WHO DEAL WITH THIS ON A DAILY BASIS AND ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE AND THE DAMAGE THAT IT CAUSES.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROHIBITION ON CITY PROPERTY.
MOST OF THE EVENTS THAT THIS WOULD INVOLVE HAPPEN OUTSIDE MOST OF THE PARTIES WOULD INVOLVE THE PARK OUTSIDE AT THE REC CENTER, AND THAT'S WHERE THE MOST DAMAGE IS DONE.
IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AT ALL BECAUSE AS I SEE IT, IT AND AS I READ THIS, IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PERMIT PROCESS.
WHEN WHEN THE PERMITS ARE GIVEN TO USE AN OUTDOOR FACILITY FOR THE CITY, THEN IT'S PART OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T BRING IN ALCOHOL OR YOU CAN'T BRING IN SOMETHING ELSE, YOU CANNOT BRING IN CONFETTI OR BALLOONS WITH WHAT MARCIE SAID ABOUT THE FINE LINE.
THAT'S THE RESOLUTION VERSUS THE ORDINANCE.
I THINK SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO STAND UP AND BE THE CHANGE MAKER.
IF WE WANT TO SEE CHANGE, AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT EFFECTUATE THAT CHANGE. EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED.
I'M FINE WITH DROPPING THE LAST PART OF THE SENTENCE THAT SAYS, EXCEPT WHERE SUCH USE MAY BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER DESIGNEE WHEN PRUDENT, AND JUST LEAVE IT AS THE CITY MANAGER TO ADMINISTRATIVELY PROHIBIT THE USE ON ALL PUBLIC PROPERTY WHICH ADMINISTRATIVELY PROHIBIT.
I TAKE TO MEAN PART OF THE THE PERMITTING PROCESS GOING FORWARD ON CITY PROPERTY.
AS FAR AS THE HOSPITAL, THAT'S NOT CITY PROPERTY, SO IT IS BECAUSE OF BRINGING IN IN GERMS IN THE WATER AND THE MOLD AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THAT WOULD NOT APPLY HERE.
WELL, IT DOES IN SECTION FIVE BECAUSE WE'RE DISCOURAGING.
WELL, WE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I HAVE AN ISSUE.
WELL, THE DISCOURAGING, THOUGH, GOES ALONG WITH THE CHAMBER AND THE SUSTAINABILITY OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND WITH EDUCATION.
IF YOU WANT TO SAY ADD IN EDUCATION TO DISCOURAGE AND EDUCATE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT SAYS ENCOURAGED, I DON'T THINK IT CHANGES ANYTHING EITHER.
SO I MEAN, I AM A I THINK IT'S A REFLECTION.
THIS RESOLUTION IS A REFLECTION OF OUR COMMITMENT AS A COUNCIL TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO PAUL TO KIND FURTHER ABOUT HIS SUGGESTIONS ON ON WORKING WITH
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BUSINESSES TO VOLUNTARILY LOWER TEMPERATURES TO TO TAKE THAT A STEP FURTHER.I THINK THIS CAN THAT CAN BE BE DONE TO.
SO I I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AT THIS TIME TOO.
SO I MEAN, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD AN ISSUE WITH IS I WANTED TO ASK, FIRST OF ALL, OUR CITY MANAGER, WHEN IT COMES TO ADMINISTRATIVELY PROHIBITING THE USE, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE ON CITY PROPERTY AND NOW ON CITY PROPERTY. YEAH. AND THAT PART, I I UNDERSTAND.
BUT WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL ENCOURAGES A REDUCTION OF SALE AND USE OF ALL BALLOONS, GLITTER AND CONFETTI PRODUCTS BY ALL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY, THAT'S THE ONE THAT I MEAN AGAIN, I WOULD I WOULD GO ALONG WITH THIS IF WE STRUCK THAT SECTION.
IT'S A PIECE OF PAPER, RIGHT? IT'S STILL AND IT'S STILL CHOICE ON THEIR PART.
WE'RE ENCOURAGING THEM, BUT IT'S STILL THEIR CHOICE.
AS A BUSINESS. WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO DO THAT.
CAN I CAN I JUST ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION AND I DO WANT TO LEAVE SECTION THREE BECAUSE EXCEPT WHEN SUCH USE MAY BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE WHEN DEEMED PRUDENT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE MIRACLE LEAGUE AND WE HAD THE BIG, BIG PLASTIC BATS THAT WERE BALLOON BATS, I THINK, AND THEY WERE RUNNING THROUGH.
IS THAT A BALLOON? THAT'S A BALLOON.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT, THAT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY.
OK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.
APPRECIATE IT. HELIUM, IT'S A LATEX.
SO YEAH, IT MAY BE BAD PLASTIC, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF A BALLOON.
GOOD QUESTION. WE ARE GOING TO CALL THE VOTE.
WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ONE.
THANK YOU, EDWARD. YOU'RE WELCOME.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ONE THING EVEN, AND I AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID TONIGHT AND I AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH ALL OF IT.
BUT WE HAVE PARTY CITY, ALL OF OUR LATEX BALLOONS ARE BIODEGRADABLE, SO THEY DO BREAK DOWN AND THEY DO NOT HARM THE ENVIRONMENT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT.
NO LONGER THE CHANCES OF, OK, SO REAL QUICK, WE HAVE ITEMS OF COUNCIL INTEREST, AND THE FIRST THING IS I WANT TO RISK OFFENDING ITEMS OF COUNCIL INTERESTS.
[X. ITEMS FOR COUNCIL ACTION/DISCUSSION AND ITEMS OF INTEREST:]
SO FIRST ON ITEMS OF COUNCIL INTEREST.SECOND ITEM OF COUNCIL INTEREST, CONGRATULATIONS TO MARCIE AND CARL.
THANK YOU. REAPPOINTMENT TO THE COUNCIL.
ANYONE ELSE? AND NOW WE HAVE THE MARINE INDUSTRIES.
YEAH. ARE YOU GOING TO GO ON AFTER THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A STATEMENT I WANT TO MAKE TO YOU GUYS? OK, HOLD ON.
COME ON. I LOST MY PLACE HERE.
OH YES, WE HAVE TO DISCUSS THE MARINE INDUSTRIES.
SO MARINE INDUSTRIES HAD ASKED ME TO BE A JUDGE AT THE BOAT PARADE IN WEST PALM ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
I AM OUT OF TOWN, SO I PUNTED TO THE VICE MAYOR.
VICE MAYOR IS ALSO OUT OF TOWN, SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY FAIR.
SO I ALREADY HAVE THAT IN THE IN THE SUNSHINE.
HAVE FUN. WHO'S THE YOUNGEST ONE ON THE COUNCIL, MARCY? I DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE IT.
OK, SO WE'RE WE'RE OK WITH MARCY GOING TO TO BE JUDGED FOR THE CHRISTMAS BREAK.
ALL RIGHT. CARL, YOU SAID YOU HAD SOMETHING.
YEAH, THIS ISN'T SO HAPPY, THOUGH.
ON THE ON THE SLIDE, WHETHER IT WOULD BE LEGAL OR NOT LEGAL, I DON'T APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
THE WAY IT CAME ABOUT THAT THE APPLICATION WAS CHANGED OVER PHONE CONVERSATIONS I DON'T THINK IS ALTHOUGH PROBABLY LEGAL, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE BECAUSE YOU TOOK AWAY MY VOTE AND.
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A LARGE PART OF THE COMMUNITY'S VOTE WHO WERE ADVOCATES FOR THE SLIDE.BECAUSE IT WAS CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN YOU THREE AND KEN THAT REMOVED THE SLIDE FROM THE APPLICATION. THEY WERE ALWAYS I WAS IN EVERY CONVERSATION, WAS ALWAYS INDIVIDUAL.
I HAD NO CONVERSATION TOGETHER.
I MUST. NO, I SAID BETWEEN YOU THREE AND KIN.
YEAH, INDIVIDUALLY, THOUGH UNDERSTOOD.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU DID IT COLLECTIVELY, BUT I THINK THE WAY THAT WE REMOVE THINGS AND WE COULD HAVE REMOVED IT WHILE WE HERE DEBATED IT IN THE SUNSHINE BECAUSE IN THE PAST WITH THE LAST COUNCIL AND IT WAS A BIG THING WHEN I CAME ON BOARD WAS BACKDOOR CONVERSATIONS AND I JUST IT JUST KIND OF DIDN'T SIT WITH ME THAT I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING, ABOUT NOTHING UNTIL KEN CALLED ME YESTERDAY SAID I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SLIDE.
I'M LIKE. WE HAD COUNSEL SUPPORT ONE MONTH AGO FOR OH, FOR THE SLIDE.
WE HAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT, WE HAD STAFF SUPPORT, WE HAD P AND Z SUPPORT.
SO WHAT CHANGED? HOLD ON. I WAS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE SLIDE.
I VOTED FOR THE ZONING CHANGES TO TO ALLOW THE THINGS TO GO FORWARD.
I DID NOT VOTE FOR RESOLUTION 60 AND 61, WHICH IS WHERE THE SLIDE WAS.
ACTUALLY, NOBODY DID. NOBODY VOTED FOR.
THE ZONING CHANGE WE VOTED FOR, THE ZONING CHANGES.
NONE OF THE SLIDE DIDN'T COME UP UNTIL TONIGHT.
THEY WERE COMPANION PIECES THAT WE VOTED ON TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
VERY, VERY SO AFTER THE LAST MEETING, AND WE DID THE FIRST ZONING CHANGES WHEN WE STARTED TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
I IMMEDIATELY REACHED OUT TO KEN AS A KEN.
YOU HAVE TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE TO MITIGATE THEIR CONCERNS AND WE HAVE TO TO TO MAKE AN AMENABLE CHANGE.
I DID NOT ASK HIM TO REMOVE THE SLIDE.
I NEVER TOLD HIM TO REMOVE THE SLIDE.
I NEVER SAID I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT IF THE SLIDE PART OF OUR PRESENTATION AND WE SPECIFICALLY SPOKE ABOUT AND I'M NOT ARGUING WITH YOU GUYS, I LOVE YOU GUYS.
BUT WE SPECIFICALLY SPOKE ABOUT THE SOUND BARRIER, THE GREEN SPACE OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT PRESERVE AND HOW MUCH THE SLIDE WAS GOING TO BE COVERED UP.
IT HAD STAFF SUPPORT AND IT HAD SUPPORT.
MY POINT IS IS THAT I THINK GOING FORWARD WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THINGS ON THE DAIS LIKE WE HAVE WITH CHARGING STATIONS, LANDSCAPING.
AND I JUST THINK AND THEY WERE UPSET THAT THEY HAD TO PULL THE SLIDE OFF PISTE IS THE WORD. THEY DID NOT HAVE THE TIME FOR US TO BRING THAT BACK UP HERE.
THEY WOULD HAVE RAN WITH IT, BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE TIME TO.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THE SLIDE COME COMING BACK TONIGHT WITH IT.
I HAD TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT NOW GOING BACK TO PAST VOTES AND THINGS.
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES WHEN YOU'VE COME FORWARD AND SAID I'VE GOTTEN A HUNDRED LETTERS FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS AND I HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS SAID AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THIS OR I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO ON BOARD WITH THIS. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE AFTER HEARING FROM EVERYBODY AND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW MY KIDS WOULD HAVE ENJOYED THE SLIDE.
I REALIZED THAT THE GOLFERS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE NOT SO MUCH, AND THEY'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND I DEALT ONE ON ONE AND LIKE I SAID, I NEVER ASKED THEM TO REMOVE IT.
I SAID, YOU HAVE TO WORK THIS OUT WITH THEM.
AND THEN HE CAME BACK TO ME AND SAID, YOU'RE GETTING A NEW PLAN.
OH, I HEARD FROM FROM CITY THAT WE GOT A NEW PLAN AND THEN THE SLIDE WAS REMOVED.
THERE WAS NOTHING BACKDOOR OF IT I DIDN'T CARE FOR.
SO HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT UP.
IT HAD FALSE. IT HAD STAFF SUPPORT, IT HAD COUNCIL SUPPORT.
IT HAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT, HAD PNC SUPPORT.
SO AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN MAGICALLY IT GOT REMOVED.
THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT ALL THIS WAY, NOT IT COMES ALL THIS WAY.
ONE HUNDRED NINETY NINE YARDS TO GET APPROVED AFTER TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND THEN GETS PULLED AT THE LAST MOMENT.
MAX. MAX, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THIS WAS DONE THE WAY THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, THOUGH THIS IS THE ONLY OPTIONS WE HAVE.
YOU YOU SPOKE TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE WAS NO SUNSHINE LAW ISSUE.
WHAT THE COUNCIL DECIDES, HOW YOU GUYS DECIDE TO HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS AS IT RELATES TO CITIZEN INPUT AND EMAILS AND HOW YOU WANT TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES IS FOR THE FIVE OF YOU TO DETERMINE ON YOUR OWN.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A VOTE OR A SAY IN THIS AS FAR AS WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WHATEVER, SO I'M NOT GOING TO INVOLVE MYSELF IN THIS IN THIS DISCUSSION BEYOND THE FACT THAT I THINK THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE LAW, THERE WAS NOTHING BUT BASED ON WHAT I UNDERSTAND,
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THERE WAS NOTHING ILLEGAL DONE.WHETHER OR NOT ONE OF YOU, TWO OF YOU, THREE OF YOU OR NONE OF YOU FEEL THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE OR INAPPROPRIATE, THAT'S FOR THE FIVE OF YOU TO DETERMINE.
NO, ANYWAY, IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION, AND I JUST DIDN'T ANY ANY WAY.
THAT'S HOW I FEEL. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? I WASN'T PART OF THIS ENTIRE APPLICATION.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP NOW FOR JUST CASUAL DISCUSSION.
I DON'T THINK I WOULD DO IT ANY DIFFERENTLY, BUT I CAN SAY SOMETIMES IF YOU DON'T BRING THINGS UP FROM THE LAND PLANNING STANDPOINT, IF YOU DON'T BRING THESE THINGS UP IN ADVANCE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO REDESIGN ON THE FLY ON THE ON THE DAIS, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANYBODY. LET ME JUST SUM IT UP LIKE THIS.
THEY WANTED THAT SLIDE, AND I'M NOT SAYING YES OR NO.
ANYTHING YOU GUYS CAN SAY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY, EVERY SINGLE, WHAT THEY WANT TRUMPS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
YOUR INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WERE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE SLIDE BASED ON YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT MY CONVERSATION WAS WITH HIM AND WHAT WAS IT? IT'S IN THE SUNSHINE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO SAY, I TOLD YOU MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM WAS THAT HE HAD TO MITIGATE WITH THE RESIDENTS AND COME TO SOME KIND OF A CONCLUSION THAT THEY COULD ALL LIVE WITH.
I YELLED AT HIM TO AND THAT EVERYBODY THAT DOESN'T IF IT'S ONE ON ONE WITH THE APPLICANT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
THAT'S MY EX PARTE WITH WITH THEM.
WAS THEY REMOVED? ALL RIGHT. SO I'M DONE, BUT THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST MAGICALLY DISAPPEARED.
MAGICALLY. NO, IT DID NOT MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR.
AND IF YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING REELECTED OR ELECTED, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH TERM LIMITS AND THIS CITY CARL.
THAT'S NOT A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
THAT'S THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
BUT THAT'S NOT A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
YOU GUYS ARE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING ELECTED OR POLITICS OR WHATEVER.
THEN WE ALL GOT REELECTED WHEN THE WHOLE CITY WAS ON FIRE ABOUT TERM LIMITS AND WE DID WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.
I JUST DON'T WHAT I DIDN'T WANT.
I DID WHAT I THOUGHT WAS RIGHT IN THIS CASE.
AND DON'T FORGET CARL, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND I WAS I WAS OPPOSED TO THE SLIDE FROM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THOSE QUESTIONS WHEN THEY WERE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING CHANGES BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE THE SLIDE.
SO I THOUGHT I MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT I WASN'T.
I WAS SUPPORTING AND I THINK I HAD EVEN ON RECORD.
I SUPPORTED THE ZONING CHANGES, BUT I WANT TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SLIDE AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH KEN AND OF COURSE, A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, ALL OF WHICH SAID THE SAME THING.
AND THEN KEN CAME TO US, ME INDIVIDUALLY, AND I GUESS THE REST OF YOU TOO, STATING THAT THEY PULLED THE SLIDE.
THERE'S NOTHING. I MEAN, THAT'S ABOUT PULLING THE SLIDE WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, APPARENTLY, THAN THE CONVERSATION.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE WHEN YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THAT OR NOT.
I KNOW MORE POLITICAL REASONS WHY YOU GUYS YOU WANT TO GET ELECTED.
SHE NEEDS GET REELECTED AND MARK IT WAS MORE POLITICS.
A POLITICIAN. I'VE GOT ONE YEAR LEFT ON THIS COUNCIL.
THIS IS MY COMMUNITY. THAT'S MY CLUB.
I HAD NOTHING TO DO. AND IT'S GREAT.
YOU'RE SO ON THE DAIS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S THE POLITICS OF PLAYING POLITICS AND OUR DECISIONS ON THIS PROJECT.
GOOD FOR YOU. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
I SAID THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD.
CARL. IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER, THEY DIDN'T.
THEY COULD HAVE NOT PULLED IT AND THEN LET THE COUNCIL VOTE.
I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT.
IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE COUNCIL SUPPORT OVER PHONE CALLS. THAT'S MY POINT.
I BRING SOMETHING ELSE UP JUST TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
IT WAS MORE IT WAS MORE THAN IT WAS ACCUSATIONS.
EVERYONE, PLEASE MARCIE, MADAM MAYOR, MAY I BRING SOMETHING UP THAT IS TOTALLY UNRELATED THAT WE SHOULD ALL LOOK AT? HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT THE REDISTRICTING MAPS SENATE AND THE HOUSE MAPS? IT APPEARS AT MY INITIAL GLANCE THAT OUR CITY IS DIVIDED BETWEEN TWO REPRESENTATIVES.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE SHOULD CONSIDER MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, IF THAT'S IF THAT STAYS THAT WAY. I THINK THEY'RE VOTING IN FEBRUARY.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING A DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AS TO WHETHER WE WANT TO REQUEST THAT WE'RE IN ONE DISTRICT, WHICH ONE IT DOESN'T MATTER BE IN ONE OR MAKE A POINT.
YEAH. CAN WE LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CASE WITH THE REDISTRICTING SO THAT WE CAN PUT THAT ON THERE? I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THAT WOULD NOT BE MULTIPLE REPRESENTATIVES
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VERSUS ONE FOR OUR CITY.ANYWAY, THANK YOU. THAT WAS IT.
OK, WE GO INTO THE NEXT ADJOURNMENT.
ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR COUNCIL ACTION OR DISCUSSION AFTER THAT? I DO NOT. OK? CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS.
I DON'T HAVE ONE. HAPPY HANUKKAH AND MERRY CHRISTMAS.
[XI. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT:]
THANK YOU IN THAT CASE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.