[00:00:01] I WOULD LIKE TO NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. [Items I & II] WILL YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE LIVES THAT WERE LOST AND THE TRAUMA THAT WAS EXPERIENCED BY THOSE ON THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA. PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS FOR A NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. THANKS, MARCY. BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WANT TO THANK OUR AMAZING STAFF AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS FOR THEIR VIGILANCE IN PREPARATION, PREPARING OUR CITY FOR THE POSSIBLE LANDING OF HURRICANE IAN AT THE VERY BEGINNING. BUT AS IT PROGRESSED, I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK OUR CITY MANAGER AND CHARLOTTE PIERZYNSKI FROM LEISURE SERVICES FOR KEEPING OUR CITY SERVICES OPEN SO THAT WHILE WE WERE WONDERING IF THE STORM WAS GOING TO COME OR NOT. OUR STAFF WAS ABLE TO BRING THEIR CHILDREN TO RIVERSIDE FOR CARE DURING THE DAY. THEY MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS NEVER A HICCUP IN THE SERVICES THAT OUR CITY WOULD PROVIDE AND MADE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT WOULD BE CARED FOR IF NEEDED, AS WELL AS PREPARED TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE FOLKS ON THE WEST COAST. OUR CITY HAS SENT NORTHCOM DISPATCHERS TO COLLIER COUNTY, AND NOW THEY'VE ALSO SENT THEM TO HENDRY COUNTY, AS WELL AS AN AMBULANCE STRIKE TEAM AND FIRE RESCUE TO CENTRAL FLORIDA. SO OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO THOSE AFFECTED BY THE DEVASTATING TRAGEDY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MAYOR REED HERE, VICE MAYOR LITT HERE. COUNCILMEMBER WOODS, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER MARCIANO COUNCIL MEMBER TINSLEY HERE. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT? YES, MA'AM. THERE ARE TWO. ALL RIGHT. SO I SEE THAT THE TWO WE HAVE IS A RESOLUTION AND A PROCLAMATION FOR A FAMILY PROMISE WEEK. SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THESE ITEMS TO ADD THEM TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ALL IN FAVOR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'M SORRY. SORRY. I CAN. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO. SO NEXT WILL BE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS. [IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS / PRESENTATIONS] READY TO DIG IN. LET'S GO. FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO CALL JIM MCCARTEN TO THE PODIUM. AND IF COUNSEL COULD JOIN ME FOR A PHOTOGRAPH, PLEASE. WELL, I GUESS WE CAN. WE WANT TO DO THE PHOTOGRAPH FIRST OR AFTER, JIM. I'LL DO IT AFTER. WE'LL DO IT. OKAY. NO, NO, WE'LL DO IT AFTER. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. SO HERE'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE ARE SO THRILLED TONIGHT TO HONOR YOU. YOU CAN YOU CAN SIT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO SIT FOR THIS. AND I'M GOING TO, AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING, BEG EVERYBODY FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE HAVE A LOT OF CITY BUSINESS TONIGHT. WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL HONORING OF GEM. WE HAVE SOME OTHER INFORMATION WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE A PRETTY FULL AGENDA. SO GET COMFORTABLE, GET COZY. WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN USUAL TONIGHT. SO I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK OUR COUNCIL FOR SHARING WITH US THE FACT THAT JIM HAS MADE SOME CHANGES IN LIFE AND WE'LL BE RETIRING. AND HE HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB FOR THE CITY. AND I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JIM, AND THEN I'M GOING TO USE OTHERS VOICES TO TELL YOU EVEN MORE. SO JIM CAME FROM D.C. ARRIVING HERE IN 1989. AS YOU KNOW, HE'S MARRIED TO KIMBERLY AND HAS TWO PHENOMENAL CHILDREN. WE ALL KNOW, JIM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WHO HASN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HIM OR SPEND TIME WITH HIM AND HIS POSITION AS GENERAL MANAGER OF THE GARDENS MALL, AS HIS WORK AS A VOLUNTARY VOLUNTEER WITH BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR PALM BEACH GARDENS POLICE AND FIRE FOUNDATION, WHICH HE'S BEEN WITH FOR OVER A DECADE. HE SERVED IN PALM BEACH, NORTH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, EXECUTIVE TRUSTEE, MEMBER NORTH PARK, ON AND ON AND ON. SO I COULD SIT HERE ALL NIGHT AND READ JIM'S BIO TO YOU. BUT INSTEAD WHAT WE DID WAS WE ASKED THE PEOPLE WHO SPEND TIME WITH HIM TO GIVE US A FEW KIND WORDS. SO I HOPE YOU'RE NOT TOO EMBARRASSED ABOUT THIS. WE'LL START WITH ONE FROM YOUR SON, WIL, WHO WROTE, MY FATHER HAS BEEN AN AMAZING ROLE MODEL FOR ME GROWING UP. HE HAS TAUGHT ME WHAT IT MEANS TO BE DEPENDABLE, CONSISTENT, UNCONDITIONALLY SUPPORTIVE. NO MATTER WHAT STAGE MY LIFE WAS IN, I ALWAYS FELT CARED FOR AND LOVED AND ACCEPTED BY HIM. MY FATHER'S STEADY PRESENCE IN MY LIFE MADE ME FEEL CONFIDENCE. I NEEDED TO TAKE RISKS, SUCCEEDS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FAIL WITH GRACE. THANK YOU FOR BEING MY FAMILY'S ROCK AND OUR NORTH STAR. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, DAD. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT AND CAREER. THERE'S SO MUCH MORE, YOU GUYS, I'LL READ QUICKLY. THIS IS FROM YOUR DAUGHTER, JESSICA. [00:05:02] MY DAD IS INCREDIBLY BRIGHT, WARM HEARTED PERSON. I KNOW. I CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON HIM TO BE CRACKING JOKES AROUND THE DINNER TABLE OR LAUGHING TO HIMSELF, EVEN WHEN NO ONE ELSE UNDERSTANDS. I THINK I THANK HIM FOR MY SENSE OF HUMOR AND BEING A CONSTANT GROUNDING FORCE THAT HAS NEVER LEFT MY SIDE. EVEN IN THE QUIET MOMENTS WHEN NOTHING MORE IS SAID THAN THE PROUD LOOK IN HIS EYES, I KNOW THAT I WILL ALWAYS BE LOVED AND CARED FOR NO MATTER WHERE LIFE TAKES ME. THANK YOU, DAD, FOR WORKING SO HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FAMILY ALWAYS FEELS SECURE. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEXT CHAPTER ON YOUR LIFE. AND SHE SAYS SHE LOVES YOU VERY MUCH. NOW, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE PROUD TO BE HERE, BUT STILL GAVE SOME NICE WORDS. AND THERE'LL BE SOME PEOPLE ON THIS LIST WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT. SO WE'LL START WITH JACK SCHNUR, A DIRECTOR OF SECURITY FROM THE GARDENS WALL WHO WROTE WORKING UNDER JIM'S DIRECTION FOR ALMOST SIX YEARS. IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE THAT FEW OTHER SECURITY DIRECTORS EVER GET TO EXPERIENCE. HIS LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION TO STAFF RETAILERS AND THE COMMUNITY LENT ITSELF TO A TESTIMONY TO HIS FOCUS ALL THE WHILE WHILE RAISING A FAMILY. QUITE A NUMBER OF IMPRESSIVE ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON SO MANY LEVELS IN A VARIETY OF AREAS. DAVID GREG, YOUR FORMER DIRECTOR OF SECURITY, ALSO SAID THAT HE WAS AN ORIGINAL EMPLOYEE WITH YOU AND WAS HIRED JUST FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE GRAND OPENING THAT YOU WERE EXCUSE ME, HIRED JUST FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE GRAND OPENING, AND THERE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A BETTER POSITION FOR YOU. IT WAS NO SURPRISE THAT YOU WERE PROMOTED TO GENERAL MANAGER AS SOON AS THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE THAT YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE PROFESSIONAL, THAT YOU SERVE CUSTOMERS, EMPLOYEES AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, AND YOU'VE DONE SO IMPECCABLY FOR 33 YEARS. WELL DONE. FROM BRIAN HILL. I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH JIM MCCARTAN FOR OVER 25 YEARS. JIM WAS A GREAT MENTOR TO ME AND ALWAYS THERE TO HELP ME WHEN I NEEDED REG, MILLER SAYS. JIM MCCARTEN HAS BEEN AN INVALUABLE DIRECTOR FOR THE MACARTHUR CENTER PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION. HIS COMMUNITY KNOWLEDGE, SENSITIVITY TO ISSUES AND CANDOR ARE SECOND TO NONE AND WILL BE MISSED. JUST A COUPLE MORE FROM DONNA CARRINGTON, WHO SAID SHE'S SO, SO SORRY SHE CAN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. JIM, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AMAZING 33 YEAR CAREER WITH THE GARDENS MALL. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH JIM FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS. INCREDIBLE MENTOR, SINCERE, KIND, CARING, AND ANYONE LUCKY ENOUGH TO WORK FOR HIM WAS BLESSED. HE HAS TRULY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN SO MANY LIVES. HIS HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE MANY COMMITTEES THAT HE SAT ON TO HELP BUILD PALM BEACH GARDENS AND THE GARDENS MALL INTO WHAT WE SEE TODAY. JIM IS TRULY AN AMAZING PERSON. HAPPY RETIREMENT. NEVER FORGET THE POSITIVE DIFFERENCE YOU MADE IN SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES, INCLUDING MINE. ENJOY EVERY DAY. I HOPE YOU ENJOY EVERY MINUTE THAT YOU TRULY RESERVE DESERVING THIS RECOGNITION. CHEERS TO 33 YEARS. DANA MIDDLETON FROM THE PGR CORRIDOR ASSOCIATION STATES. JIM HAS ALWAYS BEEN A WONDERFUL LEADER AND AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY DURING HIS ROLE AND TENURE AT THE GARDENS MALL, BUT AS A RESIDENT OF PALM BEACH GARDENS AND THE COMMUNITY. I PERSONALLY REALLY LOOK UP TO HIM. AND THEN. FROM IRWIN. ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE BOARD, THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE PALM BEACH GARDENS POLICE AND FIRE FOUNDATION CONGRATULATES MR. JIM MCCARTEN ON THE OCCASION OF HIS RETIREMENT FROM A SUCCESSFUL AND MEANINGFUL CAREER AT THE GARDENS MALL. FURTHER, THE BOARD THANKS HIM FOR HIS PAST AND CONTINUING SERVICE TO PALM BEACH GARDENS FIRST RESPONDERS THROUGH HIS WORK AS A BOARD MEMBER AND OFFICER OF THE FOUNDATION. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, FROM YOUR BEAUTIFUL WIFE, KIMBERLY. THE GARDENS MALL AND PALM BEACH GARDENS WILL ALWAYS HOLD SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE FOR US. JIM AND I MET WHILE WORKING AT THE MALL OFFICE TOGETHER IN 1999, MARRIED AND RAISED TWO AMAZING CHILDREN HERE. THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, ANYONE THAT KNEW ME WOULD MAKE A POINT TO TELL ME HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEM ALL STATE THAT IT ALWAYS LOOKED AS GOOD AS THE DAY THAT IT OPENED AND GRATEFUL THAT THEY ALWAYS FELT SAFE THERE. ENDING PERFECTLY WITH YOUR HUSBAND DOES SUCH AN INCREDIBLE JOB AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. HE NOT ONLY KNOWS EVERY INCH OF THE EXCUSE ME, HE NOT ONLY KNOWS EVERY INCH OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, HE KNOWS THE PEOPLE, IS CONSISTENT AND DEPENDABLE AND ALWAYS WANTED WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. JOINING COMMITTEES AND BOARDS, REPRESENTING THE CHAMBER, BEING A PART OF OUR FAVORITE EVENTS EVENTS. JIM ALWAYS SAID YES, NOT BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE JOB, BECAUSE HE GENUINELY CARED. HIS DRY WIT WILL CATCH YOU OFF GUARD AND IT'S THAT MOMENT YOU REALIZE HOW BRILLIANTLY HIS MIND WORKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THINGS WORK. UNDERSTANDING THEIR SIMPLICITY AND APPRECIATING THEIR COMPLEXITIES. HE IS A TRUE MASTER OF ANTICIPATING THE ABSOLUTE WORST, WHICH IS GREAT AT WORK AND ON THE LOGISTICS COMMITTEE BUT NOT AS FUN AT HOME LOL. AS A FAMILY WE ARE SO INCREDIBLY PROUD OF JIM, HIS STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO ALL THINGS, BUT ESPECIALLY TO US. WE ARE GRATEFUL AND SO HAPPY FOR THIS NEW CHAPTER. FOR HIM TO RELAX, TO EXPLORE IF HE WANTS TO, AND PERHAPS SAY NO. AND SIMPLY ENJOY ALL THAT HE EARNED AND DESERVES FROM HIS YEARS OF UNWAVERING DEDICATION. SO ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE NOW, IF THAT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT. [00:10:22] NOW I WANT TO MAKE. I'LL TAKE IT. I'LL TAKE THE. WE HAVE A REAL CAMERA. GREAT. NO, NO, NO, NO. THANK YOU. THREE. ONE SHOT DOWN FOR GOOD. I'M NOT. ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY STILL COMFORTABLE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE. NEXT, WE HAVE THE AGREEMENT ALLOWING PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, RAPID FLASHING BEACON SIGNS. WELL, TODD ENGLE. HELLO, CITY ENGINEER. PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. TODD ENGELS, CITY ENGINEER. AND WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT A GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS IN THE GRANT, AND NOW IT'S TIME TO BID THE PROJECT. SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE ACTUAL BID DOCUMENTS THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE FOR THE FDOT. AND IT CONSISTS OF TEN PEDESTRIAN FLASHERS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED WITHIN THE CORE OF OUR CITY. BASICALLY, IT'LL CREATE A SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL. IT'LL SERVE AS PALM BEACH GARDENS HIGH SCHOOL, BRIGHT FUTURES, PALM BEACH GARDENS ELEMENTARY AND HAWKINS. AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SEVERAL FLASHERS IN CROSSWALKS DOWN MACARTHUR BOULEVARD AND WE LOOK TO INSTALL NINE MORE WITHIN THE CORE OF THE CITY AGAIN, SERVICING THOSE SCHOOLS. THESE WILL BE SOLAR POWERED FLASHERS WITH CROSSWALKS. THEY'LL ALL BE MID-BLOCK CROSSINGS. AND THEY'LL HAVE OUR SIGNATURE STAMPED CONCRETE THAT WILL GO IN THOSE. THEN ALSO WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WILL BE STOLEN, GARDENIA AND HOLLY DRIVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO PALM BEACH GARDENS HIGH SCHOOL, AND THAT WILL BE A FULLY LIT PAVEMENT AS WELL AS A SOLAR POWERED PEDESTRIAN FLASHER. THIS TOTAL CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT IS 550,000. THE TPPA GRANT FUNDING PORTION WOULD BE 335,000. WE'LL BE BIDDING THIS PROJECT IN FEBRUARY AND WILL BE AWARDING IT IN THE SUMMER AND THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE BY THE TIME THE SCHOOL STARTS FOR THE FALL. 20 2123. SEASON. ANY QUESTIONS? SO JUST TO REPEAT. SO IT WON'T BE HAPPENING WHILE THE KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL. YOU'RE JUST SAYING WE WILL HAVE IT DONE OVER THE SUMMER. WHEN THEY RETURN TO SCHOOL, THEY'LL HAVE ALL THOSE FLASHES. THAT IS SO GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS. YES. YEARS AND YEARS PROCESS WORK. AND WE HAVE MORE IN THE PIPELINE. SO YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE OF THESE GRANTS COMING BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. I MEAN, NO MONEY IS FREE, BUT YOU WORKED SO HARD FOR THIS. AND TO HAVE THE GRANT IS AMAZING. SO IT'S GOING TO EXCELLENT USE AND IT'S IN THE PERFECT SPOT TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT IS COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA. I HAVE A FEW PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS THAT I BELIEVE ARE IN REFERENCE TO SOMETHING WE'LL BE DISCUSSING SHORTLY. SO I'M GOING TO BE HANGING ON TO THOSE AND I WILL SEE IF OUR CITY MANAGER HAS A REPORT. [VI. CITY MANAGER REPORT:] [00:15:03] THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I BRING AN ISSUE TO YOU THIS EVENING. I APOLOGIZE UP FRONT FOR THE LENGTH OF THIS PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK IT'S WELL WORTH THE TIME TO SPEND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE ABOUT PALM BEACH COUNTY. FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO GO TO HURRICANE EFFORTS, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED. AS FAR AS OUR EFFORTS AT HURRICANE IAN, VOLUNTEER EFFORTS AS AS YOU MENTIONED THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THE RECOVERY EFFORT HAS BEEN ONGOING WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS. THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT MOBILIZED STRIKE TEAM, AS THEY ALWAYS DO WITH OUR STATE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN. THEY HAVE ACTUALLY TREATED 523 PATIENTS, INCLUDING A SUCCESSFUL RESUSCITATION OF A CARDIAC ARREST VICTIM. ALSO, THE FIRE CHAPLAIN HAS BEEN DEPLOYED THERE AS WELL TO SUPPORT OUR TEAM. AND THEY WILL BE RETURNING ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER THE 11TH. PALM BEACH GARDENS POLICE DEPARTMENT SENT TO NORTHCOM DISPATCHERS OCTOBER ONE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE IN COLLIER COUNTY. THEY WERE REDIRECTED AGAIN TO HENDRY COUNTY, AND WE'RE IN THE QUEUE WAITING FOR DIRECTIONS TO DEPLOY A TEAM OF TEN POLICE OFFICERS. THEN WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO BE NOTIFIED SOON. THEY'RE DOING A ROTATION BASIS. ALSO, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, DAVID REYES, RECENTLY PROVIDED TRAINING FOR AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION LEADERS FOR OUR SISTER CITIES PROGRAM. WHEN WE ASSISTED CALLAWAY UP IN AFTER HURRICANE MICHAEL AND THEY HAVE USED THAT AS THEIR MODEL FOR ALL OF THE OTHER CITIES IN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION'S ATTEMPT TO GET OTHER CITIES TO DO SIMILAR THINGS HERE OVER IN IN THE FORT MYERS AREA. SO WE WILL BE ADDING OUR NAME TO THE LIST OF CITIES THAT WILL ADOPT OTHER CITIES AND HELPING THEM WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES TO RECOVER SO THOSE EMPLOYEES CAN HELP THE RESIDENTS RECOVER LIKE WE DID IN CALLAWAY. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT. ANOTHER ITEM ON BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. WE HAVE SENT YOU INFORMATION AND IT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER ABOUT THE JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER PARTNERSHIP WITH UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, PUTTING UP A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A MINI HOSPITAL AT AVANIR. ALSO IN THAT ARTICLE, JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER AND THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND MENTIONED THEIR PLANS TO BUILD SOME TYPE OF RESEARCH HOSPITAL IN THE BRIGA SCRIPPS SITE. MORE INFORMATION IS FORTHCOMING FOR ALL OF US. WE'VE INVITED DR. OMID RASTOGI AND FROM THE JUPITER MEDICAL CENTER AND DR. NELSON FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA TO OUR NOVEMBER MEETING. THAT'S NOVEMBER THREE TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH THEIR VISION OF WHAT THE 90 ACRES OVERALL IN ALTON AT THE BERGER SITE MIGHT BE. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THEM IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING. SO THOSE ARE THE MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE MOST PRESSING ITEM, OF COURSE, WOULD BE THE WIDENING OF NORTH LAKE PROPOSAL INITIATED BY PALM BEACH COUNTY. FIRST OFF, I HAD WORKED WITH SAL FASO FROM THE NC, NC, WHO HELPED ME SET UP A MEETING. ACTUALLY, I STAYED OUT OF HIS WAY AND HE SET UP THE MEETING WITH DAVID RICKS, THE COUNTY ENGINEER. THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING WAS TO GET THE MAYOR AND STAFF MEMBERS OF THE NC, NC AND OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO HEAR FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER AS TO WHAT THE STUDY IS ABOUT AND WHAT THEY HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE STUDY AND WHY THE MEETING WAS SET UP. IT WAS CONFIRMED FOR THIS PAST WEDNESDAY. I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM THE FROM DAVID RICKS WHO SAID HE WAS ADVISED FROM HIGHER UPS AT THE ADMINISTRATION LEVEL. HE IS NOT TO MEET WITH THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS. [00:20:01] WHICH. IT'S QUITE A SETBACK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROFESSIONALISM OF ADMINISTRATION AND COUNTY AND CITY LEVELS. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR CITIZENS. AND HERE WE ARE. THE MOST IMPACTFUL OF ANYONE IN OUR NEIGHBORS FROM WEST PALM AND EVEN IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE THE MOST IMPACT OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THEN REFUSING TO MEET WITH US AND EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE IMPACTS ARE. THE OTHER PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING WAS FRANKLY, A PROFESSIONAL ONE TO LET THE ENGINEER KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WE WOULD BE BRINGING BEFORE THE COUNCIL THE NEXT DAY, WHICH IS TONIGHT AS A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY, AND WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM SO THAT WHEN WE DID OUR PRESENTATION WE WOULD AT LEAST KNOW WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS WERE LONG TERM. WELL, UNFORTUNATELY THAT DIDN'T OCCUR, AND I'M EMBARRASSED TO TELL YOU THAT THEY REFUSED TO MEET WITH US. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH WHAT WE DO KNOW. THE PURPOSE HERE TONIGHT OF THIS PRESENTATION. AND NUMBER ONE IS TO TALK ABOUT THE WIDENING OF NORTH LAKE INTO EIGHT LANES. AND THERE'S A PRESENTATION WE HAVE LATER THAT WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE DETAILS AS FAR AS THE PARAMETERS ARE CONCERNED. BUT IF YOU'LL RECALL, THE COUNCIL ADOPTED RESOLUTION 64 TO 2021 ON SEVEN OCTOBER 21, OPPOSING THE COUNTYWIDE, THE COUNTY COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO WIDEN NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD TO EIGHT LANES. HERE TONIGHT, WE'RE ASKING YOUR APPROVAL TO OF RESOLUTION 71, WHICH IS OPPOSING AGAIN THE COUNTY'S EXPENDITURE OF UP TO $400,000 TO COMMISSION A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE TAKING OF RIGHT OF WAY TO IMPLEMENT THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. THAT WOULD BE RESOLUTION 71, WHICH EXPLAINS THAT WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN A LETTER TO GO ALONG WITH RESOLUTION 21 TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER BECAUSE HE REQUESTED THAT WE RESPOND TO HIM BY OCTOBER 14TH. TO DAVID RICKS. HE SENT THAT LETTER ON THE 20TH OF SEPTEMBER OF OPPOSING THE WASTE OF TAXPAYERS DOLLARS TO FUND THIS STUDY. AND I THINK THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE WILL AT LEAST MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO US THAT THIS WOULD BE A NEAR IMPOSSIBLE MISSION SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO UNDERTAKE IT. SO IN ADDITION, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A STRATEGIC IDEA TO AT THIS POINT INVOLVE THE PUBLIC IN ONE OF TWO WAYS. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY DAVID RICKS THAT THE LETTING OF THE CONTRACT FOR THIS STUDY WOULD BE SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER. HE SAYS HE WOULD NOTIFY US. IN THE EVENT THAT WE GET PLENTY OF TIME NOTIFICATION IN PLENTY OF TIME, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, IF WE HAVE TIME SPECIAL MEETING TO INVITE ALL THE RESIDENTS FROM THE CITY, FROM THE COUNTY, FROM WEST PALM BEACH, ALL OF THE IMPACTED AREAS TO COME, AND WE WOULD PREPARE A PRESENTATION ILLUSTRATING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO EACH PIECE OF PROPERTY ALONG NORTH LAKE, ALL THE WAY OUT TO BAY HILL AND OUR GOLF COURSE, ALL THE WAY TO MILITARY TRAIL, WHICH YOU WILL SEE TONIGHT IN THE EVENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH NOTICE FROM THE COUNTY TO DO THIS, THEN WE WOULD GO AS MUCH AS WE COULD TO NOTIFY THE NC AND SEE WHO COULD HELP US GET THE WORD OUT TO RESIDENTS OF WEST PALM BEACH, THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE GARDENS TO LET LET THE LET EVERYONE KNOW ABOUT WHEN THIS IS ON A BLOCK AGENDA SO THAT THEY COULD GO IF THEY CHOSE AND EXPRESS THEIR OPINION. SO WE HAVE VARIOUS WAYS ELECTRONICALLY AND EVERYTHING TO BE ABLE TO NOTIFY PEOPLE AND WE WOULD DO THE BEST WE COULD WITH THAT. [00:25:06] SO THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN. IN ADDITION TO THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE LETTER AND THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 71, APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING THOSE TWO THINGS OUT TO YOU LATE TODAY. TRUST ME, IT WAS IT WASN'T EASY. AND THAT WAS THE BEST WE COULD DO WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAD AT HAND. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU TODD ENGEL, OUR CITY ENGINEER, AND ROSS. WHEREAS ROSS, YOU'RE HERE WITH GIVEN TO OUR GES DIRECTOR TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION THAT WILL GIVE YOU A STRONG INDICATION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. ROSS GILMORE, YOU'RE UP FIRST. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. TODAY I PUT TOGETHER A QUICK STUDY TO TRY TO SHOW THE IMPACTS OF THE THOROUGHFARE RIGHT AWAY. IDENTIFICATION MAP FOR THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY HAS BROKEN THE NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. CAN YOU SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MILESTONE? MY HALF DO. SO THE COUNTY'S BROKEN NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD INTO TWO SECTIONS, WHAT THEY CALL THE EAST TEAM, WHICH EXTENDS FROM MILITARY TRAIL WEST TO THE BEELINE HIGHWAY AND THE WEST TEAM, WHICH IS FROM STATE ROAD SEVEN OUT TO THE ENTRANCE OF BAY HILL. WHAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED. IS THIS TYPICAL OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED? THEY'RE PROPOSING ROUGHLY GOING FROM 120 FOOT TYPICAL RIGHT AWAY TO 142 FOOT WIDE RIDE AWAY. WITH A 20 FOOT WIDE MEDIUM AND ESTIMATED COST OF EXPANSION AT 15.9 MILLION. I WANT TO NOTE THAT NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD IS A VARIABLE WIDTH RIGHT AWAY. SOME PARTS OF NORTH LAKE GOES FROM ROUGHLY 107 TO 108 FEET IN WIDTH, UP TO 150 FEET. BUT WHAT THEIR TYPICAL CROSS SECTION SHOWS IS THE EIGHT LANE ONLY WITHOUT TURN LANES. SO TO ADD TURN LANES IN, IT HAVE TO BE EVEN WIDER THAN THE 142 FEET. AGAIN, THE EAST AREA IS FROM MILITARY TRAIL OUT TO THE BEELINE AS SHOWN ON THIS MAP. ON THESE NEXT MAPS. EACH MAP REPRESENTS ABOUT 1500 LINEAR FEET. ALONG NORTH LAKE WE SET IS SCALES, SO YOU COULD EASILY SEE THE IMPACTS TO SOME OF THE BUSINESSES RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THE LIGHT GREEN AREAS ACTUALLY REPRESENT AREAS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY AREA. THEY'RE UNINCORPORATED AREAS. THE NON SHADED AREAS ARE ACTUALLY IN PALM BEACH GARDENS JURISDICTION. THE LIGHT OR THE RED LINE THAT WE SHOW IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED THAT WE KNOW FOR THE TAKING 22 FEET, IT WOULD BE ROUGHLY 11 FEET FROM EACH RIGHT AWAY. AND THE PURPLE LINE IS AN ADDITIONAL 11 FEET FOR EVERYTHING THEY EXIST IN THIS GREEN AREA, THE BELTED AREA NOW TO BE RELOCATED. WHAT'S IN THERE ARE IN-GROUND UTILITIES ABOVE GROUND, UTILITIES, LANDSCAPED BUFFERS, PRIVACY WALLS AND A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS. SO IT HAS TO BE RELOCATED AND WE'LL SHOW THAT. THIS SLIDE IS STREET LEVEL IMAGERY. STARTING HERE, THE CHEVRON STATION AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MILITARY AND NORTH LAKE. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE UTILITY POLES, THE SIGNALIZATION SUPPORT POLE, THE IN-GROUND UTILITIES AND ALL THE LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. THE ROUGHLY THE RIDE AWAY TAKING WOULD BE JUST BEHIND THESE POLES. BUT AGAIN, ALL THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED AND THEREBY COULD IMPACT THE LANDSCAPING, PARKING AND EVERYTHING. SAME FOR THE SOUTH RIGHT OF WAY LINE, WHICH SHOWS HERE IS THE SHELL STATION AND AGAIN THE SIGNALIZATION WOULD HAVE TO BE [00:30:08] RELOCATED. THIS IS A GOOD PICTURE TO SHOW ALL THE ABOVE GROUND UTILITIES AND LIGHT POLES YOU CAN SEE EXTENDING DOWN NORTH LAKE HERE IS ON THE NORTH RIGHT OF WAY LINE. AND ONE OF THE HOMES THAT CNN INC. AREA THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE WOULD BE BACK TO THE FENCE. THE UTILITIES WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED AND THE FENCE. AND YOU'D BE RIGHT OUT THERE. BACK OF HOUSE. SAME FOR THIS OFFICE CENTER ON THE SOUTH SIDE. HOW CLOSE IT WOULD BE TO THEIR PARKING AND IMPACT THE LANDSCAPING THEY HAVE. SO THE NEXT SECTION WE'RE SHOWING IS MAINLY WITHIN THE COUNTY JURISDICTION, THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS. BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE AT EAST HIGHLAND PINES BOULEVARD, THE PROPOSED TAKING WOULD BE RIGHT ON TOP OF A GARAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DUPLEX UNIT. AND THEN THIS IS A TRIPLEX THAT THE LINE WOULD BE ON WITH THE RELOCATION OF EVERYTHING SHOWN IN PURPLE AND THEN THE SOUTH RAILWAY LINE. AND OUT HERE IS OUR HIDDEN HOLLOW NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A HOUSE WITH THE GARAGE. TODD HAS SOME EXHIBITS TO SHOW HOW EVERYTHING WOULD BE RELOCATED HERE AND A LITTLE BIT HE'LL SHOW YOU. HERE'S THE TRIPLEX, HOW CLOSE THAT WOULD BRING TO THE TRIPLEX. AND THEN HERE IS THE ENTRY TO HIDDEN HOLLOW. YOU CAN SEE THE ENTRY GATE AND INCREASING THE RIGHT OF WAY HERE WOULD SHORTEN THE STACKING DISTANCE AND THEY'RE ALREADY BELOW CODE AND TODD HAS AN EXHIBIT FOR THAT. SO MOVE IN A LITTLE FURTHER WEST. YOU CAN SEE OUR 9011 MEMORIAL, WHERE THE TAKING WOULD BE BY THE RED LINE, AND THEN ALL THE UTILITIES RELOCATED BEHIND THE RED LINE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE MEMORIAL. ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU SEE HIDDEN HOLLOW WEST OF THEIR ENTRANCE. AND YOU CAN SEE SEVERAL OF THE HOMES HERE AND HOW CLOSE THEY ARE. THIS HOUSE COMES RIGHT UP TO THE RED LINE. THIS ONE HAS A LANAI AND THERE'S A WALL WITH LANDSCAPING OUTSIDE. IF THE WALL HAD TO BE RELOCATED, IT WOULD IMPACT THESE TREMENDOUSLY. MOVING A LITTLE FURTHER WEST IS THE HORSESHOE ACRES, SOME NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE WALL YOU CAN SEE AS A WHITE LINE, THE TOP OF WALL, AND WHERE THE TAKING WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WALL. PICTURES. HERE ARE THE MEMORIAL. WITH THE EXISTING SITUATION, THE TIME THEY DO THE TAKING AND MOVE THE UTILITIES BACK, WE'RE RIGHT THERE ON THE MEMORIAL AND HIDDEN HOLLOW. HERE ARE THE HOMES. THIS IS A HOME WITH THE LANAI. YOU CAN SEE ONCE THAT'S WIDENED, WE'D BE BACK TO THE WALL AND POSSIBLY HAVE TO RELOCATE THAT WALL INTO THEIR BACK YARD. FOR THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A CHRIST FELLOWSHIP. THIS IS ONE OF THE WIDER SECTIONS OF NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. IT'S 150 FEET IN WIDTH. THEY DO HAVE SOME ROOM HERE WHERE THEY COULD REMOVE THE MEANDERING SIDEWALK AND PUSH IT BACK AND PICK UP SOME LAND THERE. HERE IS CYPRESS HOLLOW. YOU CAN SEE ON THAT DASH LINE, THE WHITE LINE BENEATH IT IS THEIR WALL FEATURE. AND THEN DOWN HERE, WE START STEEPLECHASE. SO AGAIN, PICTURE SHOWING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, THE SIGNALIZATION, ALL THE UTILITIES. WILL. FURTHER WEST AGAIN IS STEEPLECHASE THE WALL AGAIN. THEY HAVE LUSH LANDSCAPING IN A BERM. PICTURES OF THAT. AND STEEPLECHASE ALSO HAS THE GUARDHOUSE THAT THEY'RE STACKING. DISTANCE WOULD BE SHORTENED AS WELL. AND YOU CAN NOTE THE BERM WITH ALL THE LANDSCAPING AND THE WALL ON TOP OF THE BERM AND THE UTILITIES. SO HERE WOULD BE THE IMPACT AROUND THE TURNPIKE. THIS IS A PGA NATIONAL COMMERCE CENTER CHAPMAN HERSELF AND THE IMPACT THERE TO THEIR DRIVE ISLAND PARKING [00:35:06] AND THEN GABLES AND THEIR LANDSCAPING AND THE CITY'S PARK HERE AT THE PGA. THIS IS A VIEW OF CHATSWORTH, THE ALF, AND HOW IT WOULD BE IMPACTED AND SOME OF THE OTHER FEATURES. SO WHEN WE GET OUT TO PGA NATIONAL, YOU'LL SEE THE WHITE LINE RIGHT HERE REPRESENTS THE TOP OF THE WALL. THE RED LINE IN PLACES IS BEHIND THE WALL. OTHER PLACES, IT'S DIRECTLY ON TOP OF THE WALL. BUT THE PURPLE LINE IS RIGHT BACK ON TOP OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS. SOME MAY THINK THAT IT BE. EASIER OR WORTH LOOKING AT PUSHING THE RIGHT WAY SOUTH. BUT THIS AREA IS PROTECTED AS PRESERVE. AND ON FURTHER WEST IS WEST PALM BEACH. PICTURES HERE SHOWING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THE PGA NATIONAL WALL AND ALL THE UTILITIES. AGAIN, THE WALL LOCATION, THE WHITE LINE AND THE IMPACT ON ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE LIGHT BLUE SHADING IS ACTUALLY WEST PALM JURISDICTION. THEN WE'RE OUT TO THE B-LINE HIGHWAY. THE PLAN IS TO EIGHT LANE IT TO B-LINE AND NOT WIDEN IT PAST THE B-LINE UNTIL YOU GET TO STATE ROAD SEVEN. SO THERE'LL BE A CHOKEPOINT THERE. THE WORST AFFECTED AREA AGAIN, IS FROM STATE ROAD SEVEN OUT TO BAY HILL ENTRANCE. AGAIN WEST PALM JURISDICTION. THE IBIS SHOPPING PLAZA IMPACTS TO IT WITH THE PARKING RIGHT AGAINST THE ROAD AND THEN SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES WE HAVE. PICTURES OF THAT AND IBISES FLUSH LANDSCAPING. AND THEN ON OUT IS RC GOLF COURSE AND IMPACTS TO IT AND IMPACTS TO BAY HILL AND THEIR WATER MANAGEMENT AREA. AGAIN, PICTURES OF OUR GOLF COURSE AND OUR MONUMENT SIGN AND THE BAY HILL. THE WALL HERE AT BAY HILL WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED BY THE TIME YOU DID THE TAKING OF RIGHT AWAY AND PUSH BACK THERE AND BACK THERE. WATER MANAGEMENT AREA. SO WITH THAT, TODD. GOOD EVENING. SO WHAT THE COUNTY PROPOSED IN THERE, TIM, WAS THEY JUST DREW A STRAIGHT LINE. IT'S 120 FEET HERE AND 120 FEET HERE. WE'RE GOING TO 142, AS YOU SAW WITH ROSS, WENT DOWN THE ROAD, SOME OF THOSE RIGHT AWAY SQUEEZED IN AND OUT, AND THEY GET A LITTLE WIDER WITH TURN LANES. SO THE ACTUAL AFFECTED AREA BECOMES EITHER MORE OR LESS IN THOSE AREAS. SO WE HAVE RIGHT AWAY WITH BETWEEN 107 AND ABOUT 150 IN THERE. SO SOME AREAS WILL BE AFFECTED A LITTLE LESS, SOME AREAS WILL BE AFFECTED A LITTLE MORE. BUT WE LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT SOME OF THE ACTUAL HOMES IN SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES IN THERE AND HOW THEY WOULD BE AFFECTED. AND BRING A FEW BULLET POINTS OF ACTUALLY HOW THEY WOULD BE AFFECTED IS TAKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY WOULD BE THE FIRST BIG ONE. THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY TAKEN UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR OR NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. NOW, WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD, YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE PALM BEACH GARDENS, IT'S BUFFERED LIKE PALM BEACH GARDENS. THERE'S BEAUTIFUL ENTRY FEATURES LIKE PALM BEACH GARDENS IN THAT THIS THREATENS TO TAKE THAT AWAY TO MAKE IT MORE LOOK LIKE WHAT OKEECHOBEE WOULD BE, WHERE WE HAVE VERY LITTLE LANDSCAPING WALLS IN RESIDENTIAL HOMES JUST BEHIND THERE, OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES JUST BEHIND THERE. SO THE REDUCTION OF LANDSCAPE BUFFERS BECOMES A BIG CONCERN ALONG WITH NONCONFORMITY, AS WE'VE APPROVED MOST OF THESE COMMUNITIES TO HAVE THE BUFFERS, TO HAVE THE WALLS, TO HAVE EVERYTHING THEY INCLUDED, TO MAKE THEM A PART OF PALM BEACH GARDENS. AND THIS DOES THREATEN TO TAKE THAT AWAY. SOME WALLS WILL BE MOVED, POSSIBLY GONE, UTILITY, RELOCATE, STREETLIGHTS, POWER POLES AND ALL THOSE WILL COME CLOSER TO THE HOMES AS WELL AS ALL THE NOISE ITSELF WILL COME CLOSER TO THE HOMES. AGAIN, WE TOUCHED ON THE NONCONFORMING PHASE IN A POSSIBLE REMOVAL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE MULTI UNITS IN THERE THAT ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT MAY BE REMOVED ALTOGETHER. AND SO HERE IS IS THE HIGHLAND PINES AREA. THIS IS ACTUALLY AN UNINCORPORATED JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THEY'LL NEED IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS THE 11 FEET, 11 FEET BACK TO THIS YELLOW LINE. AND WHAT'S NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THEIR OVERALL CROSS SECTION IS THE UTILITIES. [00:40:02] THEY PUT A SIDEWALK WITH ONE FOOT TO BRING IT BACK UP AND DOWN TO THE EXISTING GRADES. BUT THOSE UTILITIES THAT EXIST UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, BOTH ABOVEGROUND AND UNDERGROUND, NEED TO BE RELOCATED. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW EVEN IF WE ADD A FEW MORE FEET FOR EASEMENTS BACK IN THERE, THAT THOSE HOMES WILL MOST LIKELY BE TAKEN. WE TOUCHED ON HIDDEN HOLLOW AGAIN. THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 175 FOOT STACKING DISTANCE THAT WILL BE REDUCED TO 64. OUR CODE REQUIRES 100 FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, SO THAT WILL BECOME ANOTHER NON CONFORMITY STAYING WITH HIDDEN HOLLOW CURRENTLY RIGHT AT THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE EXIST AT TEN FOOT BUFFER THAT THEY OWN. THEY MAINTAIN THEY HAVE A WALL IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT THAT'S SHOWN HERE AND THEY HAVE A NINE FOOT SETBACK TO THEIR ACTUAL HOMES WHERE THEY CAN PUT IN PATIOS, WHATEVER ELSE THEY'D LIKE. WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THIS SECTION WOULD LEAVE A ONE FOOT BUFFER IN THAT AREA IN WHICH MAYBE THE WALL CAN GO BACK IN, MAYBE IT CAN'T BECAUSE THE FOUNDATION CAN'T GO IN THE RIGHT AWAY. SO NOW THE FOUNDATION WOULD HAVE TO GO ON TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, HERE'S WHAT YOU SEE, WHAT THEY HAVE THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY GONE. THESE TREES WOULD BE GONE. THAT WALL, IF THEY CAN GET IT IN, WOULD GO WITHIN THAT ONE FOOT BUFFER AND THEN IT WOULD GO NINE FOOT TO THE PROPERTY LINE. AND IF THEY USE THOSE SETBACKS TO PUT IN ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THOSE SETBACKS, THOSE MOST LIKELY WOULD BE GONE AS WELL. LOOKING AT STEEPLECHASE. STEEPLECHASE IS APPROVED WITH AN OVERALL 25 FOOT BUFFER. THERE'S 14 FOOT AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE WALL AND THEN ANOTHER TEN FEET BEYOND THAT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES, AS YOU CAN SEE. WE ONLY ALLOW A SIX FOOT HIGH RESIDENTIAL WALL, SO THEY BURN THAT WALL UP TO CREATE A HIGHER WALL HEIGHT, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO ESTABLISH A LOT OF LANDSCAPING WITHIN THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BECOME OF THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, HOW THE WALL WILL BE EITHER MOVED, RELOCATED OR RE SUPPORTED TO A RETAINING WALL SYSTEM. BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE LANDSCAPE WILL BE GONE UNDERGROUND. UTILITIES THAT EXIST HAVE TO BE RELOCATED AND ALL THE ABOVE GROUNDS HAVE TO BE RELOCATED. AND THIS IS THE UNDERGROUND NETWORK THAT JUST SEACOAST HAS A LOAN WITHIN THAT SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL THE TELECOMMUNICATION LINES THAT'S BEEN BOUGHT OVER THE YEARS IN THESE AREAS. SO STILL LOOKING AT THAT WITH A FOUR FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN THE WALL, THOSE UTILITIES HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE AND THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO GO CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS OR THEY'RE GOING TO GO ON AN EASEMENT LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THAT ROAD RIGHT AWAY. SO WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL END UP LOOKING. LOOKING BACK AT PGA NATIONAL'S ROSS DISCUSSED THESE AREAS OVER HERE, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS. WE KNOW THAT THE WHEN THE FDOT CAME IN TO DO THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT BEELINE IN NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD, THEY PROPOSED A FREE RIGHT COMING OFF, BEELINE ONTO EASTBOUND NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. THEY COULD NOT GET THAT LAND FROM WEST PALM BEACH. SO WHAT WE'RE STUCK WITH TODAY IS A BASICALLY A U-TURN, WHERE NOW IF YOU WANT TO GO EASTBOUND NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD, YOU'VE GOT TO GO WEST, MAKE A U-TURN AND COME BACK EAST BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT TAKE THOSE LANDS. SO IF THE COUNTY IS FACED WITH THAT SAME DILEMMA, IT CURRENTLY EXISTS ABOUT 126 TO 128 FEET. THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE PGA SIDE IF THEY COULDN'T GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL LANDS. SO WHAT YOU SEE IS THEY HAVE A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION THAN STEEPLECHASE. SO THEY HAVE THE ELEVATED BERM, THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING AND THEY HAVE HIGH TENSION LINES AND STREETLIGHTS THAT RUN DOWN THE STREET. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEM THERE, AGAIN, APPROVED WITH A 25 FOOT BUFFER. IT'S ABOUT A 15 FOOT SETBACK TO THAT WALL. IF THEY TAKE THAT 11 AND I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, EVERYTHING WOULD COME CLOSER TO THE ROAD. THE WALL WOULD HAVE TO MOVE BACK AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO CREATE SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER. AND THAT WOULD ALL BE WITHIN A PRIVATE PROPERTY LINE THAT WOULD COME EITHER TO THE PROPERTY LINE OR GO WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE, OR USE OF A RETAINING WALL MAY BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME OF THAT PROPERTY ON THAT SIDE. VERY EXPENSIVE TO RUN THAT WHOLE LINE WITH WITH A RETAINING WALL SYSTEM. AND SO THEY CAN KEEP THEIR BACKYARDS OR THEY CAN JUST TAKE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ALTOGETHER AND MOVE THE WALL ENTIRELY BACK. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WE KNOW THE IMPACT WILL DEFINITELY BE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THE IMPACT WILL BE TO WHAT WE'VE CREATED OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS OF NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD AND HOW IT LOOKS TODAY, BECAUSE IT IS GARDENS. JUST A QUICK LOOK OUT WEST. THIS IS OUR GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. THIS IS BAY HILL ESTATES. THEY ONLY HAVE 112. THEY NEED 142. SO THIS IS A LARGER TAKING FOR THEM. AND THEN ALSO THE EXISTING TURN LEAD WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK. THAT TURN LANE WOULD WOULD WIPE OUT OUR MONUMENT SIGN. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO TRANSITION. THIS IS A TRANSITION POINT FROM THREE LANES TO 2 TO 4 LANES IN THIS AREA. SO THOSE TRANSITIONS HAVE TO BE PUT SOMEWHERE. ARE THEY IN A FORM OF A TURN LANE OR THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE MORE TAKING, BUT AT A MINIMUM, THEY WOULD TAKE A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF BAY HILL ESTATES AND THEY WOULD TAKE THEIR CURRENT RETAINING WALL AND MOVE THEIR SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM BACK AGAIN. THAT WOULD BE A NON-CONFORMITY FOR FOR BAY HILL ESTATES IN THAT AREA. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. [00:45:02] IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. ROSS GREAT WORK WITH THE MAPPING. IT WAS EYE OPENING AND TODD, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING IT PIECE BY PIECE. I'M GOING TO IF EVERYONE WOULD INDULGE ME, I'M GOING TO ASK. WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE WHO PUT SOME COMMENT CARDS IN. WE'RE NOT DONE. NOT DONE IT MORE THAN. ALL RIGHT, BRING IT ON. WHAT HAVE WE GOT? WAIT, THERE'S MORE. THERE'S MORE. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. TODD AND ROSS SPENT A GOOD PART OF THEIR WEEK LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. IT DID NOT COST $400,000. WELL DONE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ALSO, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WHAT THE COUNTY'S FIVE YEAR ROAD PROGRAM, MIDYEAR ADJUSTMENTS THEY'RE ASKING FOR. YOU'LL SEE ONE UP FROM THE BOTTOM 400,000 BUDGETED FOR THIS STUDY THAT THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO. FORTUNATELY, WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN SOME VIDEO OF A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS REGARDING THE AT THE TPA OF THE COUNTY ENGINEER, TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS STUDY WAS ABOUT. AND FORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE KEY PLAYERS HERE HAPPENS TO BE, I GUESS, THE VICE CHAIR OF THE TPA, OUR MAYOR. AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO HEAR WHAT THE COUNTY ENGINEER HAS TO SAY AND HOW WELL, OUR VICE I MEAN, THE VICE CHAIRMAN. BUT OUR MAYOR WAS ABLE TO GRILL I MEAN, PULL INFORMATION FROM THE ENGINEER, IF YOU WOULD PLAY THE TAPE. BUT WE HAVE PROJECTS IN THIS DISTRICT. BUT ON THIS ONE, TWO KEY ONES, THE DONALD ROSS ROAD BASKET BRIDGE EQUIPMENT, $8 MILLION. WE GOT PROGRAM FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THEN A NORTH LAKE. WE'RE GOING TO DO A STUDY TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF POTENTIALLY AFTER WE LOOK AT EIGHT LANING NORTH LAKE AND SO THIS WILL BE A STUDY TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF NORTH LAKE NOT SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PROJECT, BUT THIS WOULD BE A MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS. SOME LIKE SEEING IT FIRSTHAND. SO YOU MENTIONED BRIEFLY A STUDY THAT THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON REGARDING EIGHT LEANING NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH THAT WAS GOING TO. WELL, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT, GETTING EXTRA FINAL CALLS FROM THE THE CONSULTANT. AND SO WE'RE WE HAVE NOT. STILL GOING BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS OF THAT THAT NUMBER AND ONCE WE GET A NUMBER THAT WE THOUGHT WAS REASONABLE WILL PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD PRIVATE IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER FOR CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT. AND ONCE THE CONTRACT IS APPROVED, THERE'S A 12 YEAR PROCESS TO GET THAT, GET THAT GET THAT STUDY DONE. AND SO WE'LL DEFINITELY INVOLVED WITH THAT. YOU DID HAVE A NUMBER UP. IT WAS LIKE 400,000 OR. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A PLANNING NUMBER, BUT WE WANT TO GET SOMETHING LOWER THAN THAT. AND SO BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING EXTRA LANES, WHICH WE KNOW DON'T WORK TO MOVE PEOPLE. IT DOES NOTHING BUT ADD MORE CARS TO THE ROAD ON AN AREA THAT GOES THROUGH FIVE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS AS WELL AS NATURAL SPACE. SO WHY IS IT POSSIBLY WORTH SPENDING HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON A PROJECT THAT YOU EVEN SAID YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO? WHEN YOU PRESENTED IT A MOMENT AGO, YOU SAID WE'RE MOST LIKELY NOT GOING TO DO IT. I JUST SAID THAT IT'S UP TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. AND SO MY BOARD DIRECTED ME. I PRESENTED IT IN JUNE THAT WE WILL START WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PLANNING DOCUMENT AND PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD AND SO ON. THE PROCESS OF GETTING A CONTRACT TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD IS UP TO THE BOARD TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION. RIGHT. IT'S A PLANNING DOCUMENT THAT COULD COST A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 190% INCREASE IN PRICES FOR MOST OF YOUR SUPPLIES CURRENTLY GOING FORWARD? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFE STREETS AND WHAT THE EPA HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO, AND WE KNOW THAT ADDING LANES AND ADDING ROADWAY CAPACITY JUST PUTS MORE CARS ON THE ROAD, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIX THE ISSUE. SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE TAKING TIME AND MONEY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY NOT FEASIBLE. AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING YOU IS 12 YEARS AWAY. I'LL BE UP FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION. I'M. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY, GREAT. SO OBVIOUSLY, THE CITY IS NOT IN GREAT SUPPORT OF THAT. WE EVEN PASSED A RESOLUTION AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND. SO GOOD JOB. [00:50:01] SO WE WANTED TO PUT INFORMATION HERE AS TO WHO WHOM TO CONTACT. AND THIS IS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. IT WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE AVAILABLE TO ANY ANYBODY AND EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND A COUNTY ENGINEER ABOUT THIS STUDY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION, MINUS SOME COMMISSIONERS VOTING AGAINST IT, WHICH MARIA MARINO DID, DIRECTED STAFF TO PROCEED WITH HIRING A CONSULTANT AND BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOC SO THAT THEY COULD APPROVE A CONSULTANT TO DO THE STUDY. OUR OWN MARIA MARINO, COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT ONE, VOTED AGAINST THAT. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THAT BASICALLY CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION FOR THE NIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO IF YOU GUYS COULD INDULGE A LITTLE FURTHER, WE DO HAVE SOME COMMENT CARDS. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE VOICES OF THOSE WHO COULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. WE'LL START WITH MR. SAL FASO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY? GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND I KNOW YOU KNOW ME AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU UP THERE VERY WELL, BUT THERE MAY BE PEOPLE BEHIND ME THAT DON'T KNOW WHO I AM, BUT I'M THE PRESIDENT OF SOMETHING CALLED THE NORTH COUNTY NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. WE HAVE ALMOST 50,000 PEOPLE IN THE COALITION, 33,000 VOTERS. WE HAVE 23 COMMUNITIES. MANY OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT. MOST OF THEM ARE IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, AND THEY ALL ARE ALONG NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. WE HAD A MEETING ON JUNE 27TH WITH THE COUNTY WHERE THEY REVEALED THIS PLAN TO US IN MORE DETAIL, AND WE OBJECTED THEN AS A FORMAL ORGANIZATION, THE NORTH COUNTY NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. SO BEHIND ME, AND I'M AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK, BY THE WAY, FOR WEST PALM BEACH. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE MAYOR. HE'S GIVEN ME THE AUTHORITY TO EXPRESS ITS OBJECTION TO THE STUDY AS WELL. I HAVE A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT IN MY FOLDER. WE HAVE RUSTIC LAKES. AUTHORIZED ME TO SPEAK. BAY HILL IS AUTHORIZED ME TO SPEAK. ROSA THIS MORNING FROM AVANIR HAS AUTHORIZED ME TO SPEAK. WE HAVE REPRESENTATION. CARLTON OAKS, OSPREY, PGA AND STEEPLECHASE. BOB YEAGER COULD NOT BE HERE FROM MONTECITO, BUT ALL THE COMMUNITIES ALONG AND IBIS, OBVIOUSLY ALONG NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. AND I AGREE WITH TOD ALL THE ISSUES THAT HE HAD PRESENTED WITH RESPECT TO THE CONCERNS WE HAVE. BUT I WOULD ADD ONE MORE TO IT. IT'S NOT IN THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA TO HAVE AN EIGHT LANE HIGHWAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE PROMINENT RESERVATION RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AND THINK ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT EXIST THERE. THEY'RE AT AN AGE LEVEL WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET USED TO ROUTINE AND YOU PUT SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, REMOVE THEIR TURN LANES, WHETHER IT'S IN OR OUT OF THE COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE PUBLIX AS A SHOPPING CENTER IN OR OUT. THOSE ARE SAFETY CONDITIONS. AND ALL OF YOU OBVIOUSLY IS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, PUBLIC SAFETY. AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE JEOPARDIZING PUBLIC SAFETY. SO WE ARE IN FULL SUPPORT AS A COALITION OF PALM BEACH GARDENS AND OF WEST PALM BEACH OPPOSING THE STUDY. WE THINK THE MONEY COULD BE USED MORE WISELY. THIS MORNING I WAS WITH MADAME MAYOR. I SAID WE OUGHT TO SEND THIS MONEY OUT TO FORT MYERS AND THEIR HURRICANE RELIEF FUND RATHER THAN USING THIS ON THE ON A STUDY THAT MAYBE HE'S 12 YEARS OUT FROM TODAY. I AS A FORMER BUSINESSMAN, I WAS JUST TALKING TO BRIAN. I WOULDN'T BE DOING THAT IF I WERE THEM. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FROM A BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW. SO WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE'VE DONE OUR DILIGENCE AS A COMMUNITY. FOR EXAMPLE, IN IBIS ALONE, WE WOULD STAND TO LOSE OUR PARK TWO HOMES FOR SURE BASED UPON AND WE'VE GONE TO THE COUNTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND WE'VE DONE OUR DILIGENCE WITH OUR MAPS AND WE SEE THAT. SO WE'VE GOT STRONG OBJECTION FROM IBIS AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN WEST PALM BEACH, BUT WE'RE BROTHERS AND SISTERS RIGHT NEXT TO EVERYBODY WITHIN PALM BEACH GARDENS. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NEED FROM ANY OF US, JUST GIVE ME A CALL, RON OR MADAM MAYOR, AND WE'RE PREPARED TO HELP IN ANY WAY WE POSSIBLY CAN. BUT WE DO SUPPORT 100% WITH PALM BEACH GARDENS IS TRYING TO SUGGEST TO THE COUNTY IT IS NOT WISE TO SPEND THIS MONEY. AND IT'S KIND OF A FOOLISH ENDEAVOR TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN THE WAY THEY'RE PROCEEDING THIS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, MR. FASO. MARCY NOTICED THAT YOU DIDN'T SAY YOUR ADDRESS. PLEASE, IF YOU'D BE SO. I'M SORRY. SO, AGAIN, YOUR ADDRESS IS. OH, I'M SORRY. SEVEN, SEVEN, FOUR ONE, BLUE HERON WAY WEST PALM BEACH. THREE, THREE, FOUR, ONE, TWO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL VICTOR MARTIN IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. VICTOR MARTIN OF 8896, OLDHAM WAY. PALM BEACH GARDENS. 334212. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR CARLTON OAKS. [00:55:03] I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE CMC AND I WANT TO OFFER MY THANKS AND TOTAL SUPPORT IN THIS ENDEAVOR TO STOP THE EIGHT LANES. ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THAT WAS MAYBE KNOWN BUT NOT MENTIONED, IS THAT THAT SHELL GAS STATION, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN OF YOUR PRESENTATION, THEY'VE GOT FUEL TANKS IN THE GROUND. AND FROM WHAT I SEE, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER WOULD OBVIOUSLY DEFAULT TO THAT. BUT THAT'S A THOUGHT THAT I'D NOT DID NOT HEAR A THOUGHT OF. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE SHELL GAS STATION PEOPLE. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE PUBLIC GROCERY STORE THERE AND ASK THEM IF I NEED TO GET CORPORATE. AND THE MANAGER SAID, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEM. SO IF WE NEED ANYTHING FROM THEM, HE SAYS, LET ME KNOW, I'LL WRITE A LETTER. AND ALSO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE SAFETY. YOU FOLKS ALL KNOW YOUR OWN ROADS, YOUR HOMES, YOUR DRIVEWAYS, BUT I'D LIKE TO OFFER IT FOR A SAFETY ASPECT OF WHAT WE GO THROUGH. AND ESPECIALLY OSPREY, WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A EGRESS LANE INTO CARLETON OAKS. WE HAVE THE LOOS THAT WITH AN EIGHT LANES. NOW, THINK OF YOURSELF GOING DOWN NORTH LAKE AT TRAFFIC, 55, 65 MILES AN HOUR. YOU GOT PEOPLE ON YOUR BUMPER. EVEN IF YOU TURN YOUR SIGNAL ON WANTING TO TURN INTO YOUR HOME, THEY'RE ON YOU. AND SO NOW YOU'VE GOT TO WHAT DO YOU DO? SLAM ON THE BRAKES, MAKE A HARD TURN. YOU'VE GOT YOUR KID IN THE BACK SEAT AND A CHILD CARE. IT'S A BIG SAFETY FACTOR. BESIDES ALL THE NUMBERS THAT YOU CAN ALREADY THINK OF, THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS OF THIS COSTS AND EXPENSE. IT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S TOTALLY RIDICULOUS TO EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING IT. BUT THE POINT THAT I WANT TO BRING UP IS THE SAFETY ASPECT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIVE WITH EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES. THEY'LL THINK ABOUT YOU GOING HOME, PULLING INTO YOUR DRIVEWAY EVERY NIGHT AFTER A LONG DAY OF WORK, WORK. YOU'RE TIRED AND YOU WONDER IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET REAR ENDED WHERE THE GUY'S BLOWN HIS HORN. AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO MAKE A TURN? THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO KEEP IT DOWN TO SIX LANES. IT'S A MINOR FACTOR IN A WAY, BUT WE CAN KEEP OUR EGRESS AND AND ALSO ACCELERATIONS OUT OF OUR COMMUNITIES. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT, WE'D LIKE TO CALL JAMES KRAUSS, PLEASE, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. JIM KRAUSE 1040 DIAMONDHEAD WAY SO IT ALREADY SOUNDS LIKE I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR IN TERMS OF THE REACTION I'M GETTING. BUT PGA IS SORT OF UNIQUELY SITUATED AND I HADN'T REALLY SEEN THAT MAP. EXCUSE ME, SIR, COULD YOU PLEASE BE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MAP SHOWING THE ENCROACHMENTS ON THE PROPERTY LINES UNTIL THIS EVENING. AS MENTIONED, WE HAD MET WITH THE ENGINEERS, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THAT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE ENORMOUS IMPACT ON PGA NATIONAL. WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMES RIGHT ALONG THAT AREA. AND THEY WOULD ALL BE HAVE TO BE SORT OF BE MOVED BACK OR THE PROPERTY LINES WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED BACK, WHICH IS A REAL CONCERN OF OURS. ALSO, THE MONUMENTS, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PUSHED BACK INTO WHAT IS NOW PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO THAT ISN'T GOING TO WORK. THERE'S ONE OTHER THING THAT PGA NATIONAL IS CONCERNED ABOUT, AND THAT IS THE USE OF RYDER CUP BOULEVARD. WE'RE CONCERNED THAT IF THIS PROJECT GOES THROUGH THAT RYDER CUP BOULEVARD IS GOING TO GET ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, AND THAT IS A GREAT CONCERN TO US. SO AND AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GETTING ENOUGH TRAFFIC ON RYDER CUP. BUT IF THE TRAFFIC IS FORCED THROUGH THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE A REAL PROBLEM FOR US. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT, I'LL BE CALLING MATTHEW. PLEASE. I'M SORRY IF I DIDN'T PRONOUNCE THAT PROPERLY. ADAM MAYOR. FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. MATTHEW. CAMILLA. 9678. OSPREY. ISLES. BOULEVARD. PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA. THREE, THREE, FOUR. ONE, TWO. VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT I STAND HERE BEFORE ALL OF YOU. AFTER BEING EIGHT YEARS THE PRESIDENT OF OSPREY ISLES, HOA. A SEVEN YEARS STARTED SINCE THE STARTING OF OUR PROCESS TO INCORPORATE INTO OR GETTING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS AND A FEW SHORTER YEARS STARTING TO TALK ABOUT OUR RIGHT HAND TURN PLAN. YOU CAN IMAGINE MY SURPRISE HERE. THE BURNING QUESTION IN YOUR MIND IS WHEN IS CAMILLA GOING TO COME BEFORE US AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE OSPREY ISLES RIGHT HAND TURN LAND? HOPEFULLY THAT DAY IS COMING SOON. YOU CAN ALSO IMAGINE MY SURPRISE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A TURN LANE. I'M SORRY. WE DON'T HAVE A TURN LANE. WE ENGAGE THE CITY TO HELP US GET A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE. [01:00:05] WE BROKERED A A REASONABLE WAY TO GET THE RIGHT HAND TURN LANE. AND NOW THE COUNTY COMES IN WITH THIS STUDY THAT MAY WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHT HAND TURN LANE, WHICH ISN'T YET THERE, WHICH IS STILL IN THE ETHER. SO ON BEHALF OF OSPREY ISLES, WE ARE OPPOSED TO NORTH LAKE GOING TO EIGHT LANES. OUR RESIDENTS DID NOT BUY INTO THE SOUTHERN BOULEVARD OKEECHOBEE BOULEVARD CONCEPT WAY OF LIFE. WE BOUGHT INTO PALM BEACH GARDENS. WE BOUGHT INTO THE GARDENS, WE BOUGHT INTO THE GREEN, THE NICE FRONTAGES AND WHAT YOU HAVE THROUGH PALM BEACH PGA. THAT'S WHAT WE LOOKED FOR. THAT'S WHAT WE SPEND OUR MONEY AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN GOING TO EIGHT LANES. THAT'S GOING TO PUT MORE THAN A MONKEY WRENCH. AND YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE VERY QUICKLY PUT TOGETHER STUDY TAB. THAT WAS THAT'S AMAZING FOR VERY QUICKLY PUT TOGETHER THE GYRATIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER FOR TAKING THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE SPENT DOESN'T JUSTIFY WHAT THE COUNTY IS PROPOSING. FOR US. IT'S A VERY PERSONAL THING TO MAINTAIN OUR RIGHT HAND TURN LANE AND GET IT IN PLACE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SHELL GAME. HERE IT IS, THERE IT'S NOT. AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO HAVE IT BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, CARLTON OAKS HAS A TURN LANE. THE GOLF COURSE HAS A TURN. LANE. IBIS HAS A TURN. LANE AVENIR HAS A TURN IN LANE, THE CEMETERY HAS A TURN LANE. SO WE PROVIDE TURN LANES FOR DEAD PEOPLE. BUT OSPREY IS THE BASTARD CHILD THAT REMAINS OUT THERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE. SO OSPREY OPPOSED TO EIGHT LANES IN FAVOR OF SIX LANES. AND THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M STICKING WITH IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT SOUNDBITE. I KNOW WE'LL HEAR THAT ONE AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE'D LIKE TO PLEASE CALL RAMONA BEAN. IF YOU COULD COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, RAMONA. BIEN. FIVE, FOUR, THREE, NINE, SIX, EIGHT AWAY. I'M ACTUALLY IN HORSESHOE ACRES, SO. AND FUNNY ENOUGH, AS I WAS LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER. I WAS TEXTING SOME OF MY RESIDENT FRIENDS AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO'S ACTUALLY ON THAT LINE THERE. WE CALL HIM MONSIEUR CHARLES. HE'S A FRENCH COACH AND HE'S GOT A BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER AND A PRO WIFE. SO ANYWAY, THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT FOLKS. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. AND I CAN I CAN ALREADY SPEAK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HORSE BREAKERS. WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT. I'VE BEEN ALSO HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ON THE TPA AS A MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RENO, AGAIN FOR LETTING ME HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND I AGREE WITH WHAT OUR MAYOR SAID. I'M SO GLAD TO HEAR HER SAY IT. YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY THAT THE BIKE LANES I USED TO LIVE OFF BY SOUTHERN WHEN I WAS A CHILD AND SEEING WHAT IT'S BECOME EXPANDED, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF PALM BEACH GARDENS. AND I FEEL SO BLESSED TO LIVE IN THIS CITY NOW. AND IT IS BECAUSE IT ALWAYS WAS MORE GREEN. AND I PULL OUT EVERY DAY WITH MY KIDS ON NORTH LAKE AND I ALWAYS HAVE TO LOOK NOT JUST FOR THE CARS BUT FOR PEDESTRIANS, PEOPLE WITH THEIR STROLLERS, PEOPLE ON THEIR BIKES. YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY FREQUENTED AREA WITH PEOPLE ON FOOT. SO I'M CONCERNED, OF COURSE. SO IF IF YOU IN THE CITY DO NEED US TO COME OUT AND BE MORE VOCAL, JUST LET US KNOW. WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE HAVE ONE LAST CARD AND IT IS COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT ONE. MARIA MARINO, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, ALL. COUNTY COMMISSIONER MARIA MORENO. MY ADDRESS IS THREE CARRICK ROAD, PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA. AND YES, I AM IN SUPPORT OF EVERYTHING YOU ALL ARE PLANNING TO DO HERE. I WOULD ADD SEVERAL NAMES TO YOUR CONTACT INFO. I WOULD ADD ALL THE REST OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOUR VOICE IS. I AM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THAT. I WOULD EVEN SEND THEM THE PRESENTATION. I DO THE BEST THAT I CAN AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL TO SWAY THE OTHER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WHEN WE HAVE A MEETING AND IT'S OPEN AND IT'S PUBLIC AND IT'S IN THE SUNSHINE, I CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS OTHERWISE. SO THAT'S WHY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTACT THE OTHER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE FROM THE BEGINNING SAID THIS IS A BOONDOGGLE. YES, I JUST SAID THAT IN PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO OTHER FOUR EIGHT LANE ROADWAYS THAT GO EAST. WEST IN OUR COUNTY ARE OKEECHOBEE AND SOUTHERN, AND THOSE ARE STATE ROADS WITH MUCH LESS RESIDENTIAL ON THEM. [01:05:02] SO THE NOT JUST THE FEASIBILITY BUT JUST THE WHOLE LOGIC OF IT AND SAFETY OF IT IS A IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME. AND WE WANT TO KEEP GARDENS GREEN. SO AGAIN, I WOULD SAY ADD THE REST OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO THAT LIST. AND I ALSO MAYBE ADD THE TPPA TO THAT LIST. AND ANYTHING I CAN DO FROM MY OFFICE, YOU KNOW I WILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER DE. WOULD WE LIKE? I THINK MY COUNSEL IS TRYING TO SAY SOME THINGS. ARE YOU GUYS ARE HOPING TO SPEAK ON THIS? YES. KARL, WOULD YOU MIND STARTING? I'M JUST A TRAFFIC COP, SO IT'S A LOT TO ABSORB, YOU KNOW? IF YOU LOOK BEYOND THE PRESENTATION AND JUST THE SIMPLE FACT OF TAKING LAND SO THEY CAN LANE IT. YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WONDER HOW THE COUNTY IS GOING TO AFFORD IT WITH THE EMINENT DOMAIN. I ALREADY SPOKE TO MAX A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE HE CAN CHIME IN ON WHEN THEY SUE EACH PIECE OF PROPERTY. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY ON NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. SO THEN DO YOU TURN AROUND AND DO A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY, WHICH IS GOING TO COST? HALF A BILLION IN LITIGATION. AND THEN IT BECOMES WITH SAL AND HIS TEAM, IT BECOMES AN ELECTION ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO GO ON BEYOND MARIA. AND IT MIGHT EVEN COME INTO A COUNCIL ISSUE HERE TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE OPPOSITION OF EIGHT LANING AND THEN GETTING THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS INVOLVED WITH OUR REACH AROUND THE COUNTY. IT BECOMES AN ELECTION ISSUE FOR ALL OF THEM. SO IT'S A BIG PICTURE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST. I MEAN, IS THAT THEIR GOAL, TO RAISE TAXES SOMEHOW? IMPACT FEES ON CONTRACTORS OR BUILDING. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT JUST DOESN'T THIS DOESN'T DOESN'T THE BIG PICTURE OF OF BUILDING THIS ROAD, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEYOND MY GRASP BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT CAN POSSIBLY HAPPEN IN ANY OF OUR LIFETIME OR EVEN WHILE VERDIN IS THERE. SO YOU JUST WONDER WHAT THE UNDERLYING THING IS. SO IF MAX HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ON IT, OR IF IT'S TIME, IF IT'S NOT TIME, IT'S FINE. I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE COST, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S PURELY SPECULATIVE, BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN LOOK UP AND DOWN THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN EXPERT ON EMINENT DOMAIN. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT PROBABLY ANYWHERE FROM 500 TO 1000 DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS, BUSINESSES, HOMES. YOU'RE GOING TO THE VARIOUS HOMES ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO HAVE STANDING BEYOND JUST THEIR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS. I WOULD SAY CONSERVATIVELY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN HALF A BILLION AND A BILLION AND A HALF TO DO THE TAKING. THE I SAID TO EACH ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT ONE POINT DURING THEIR AGENDA REVIEWS THAT THE STYLE OF THE CASE PALM BEACH COUNTY VERSES WILL PROBABLY BE 40 OR 50 PAGES LONG BECAUSE THEY'LL THEY'LL DO IT IN ONE EMINENT DOMAIN AND NAME EVERYONE. YOU'LL HAVE AN UNTOLD NUMBER OF ATTORNEYS ON THE DEFENSE SIDE. THERE AREN'T ANY GOOD. YEAH. I'M LIKE, I'M SITTING HERE THINKING, I'M GOING TO GO EMINENT DOMAIN DEFENSE MYSELF. I RUN UP AND DOWN THE STREET WITH BUSINESS CARDS. THERE ARE NO GOOD EMINENT DOMAIN ATTORNEYS THAT CHARGE LESS THAN $500 AN HOUR. I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND ONE. THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO PAY BOTH SIDES OF THE THEY PAY THE ATTORNEYS ON BOTH SIDES. THE COST WOULD BE. IT'S JUST STAGGERING TO THINK ABOUT THE COST OF IT. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING, LIKE I SAID, 500 TO 1 AND ONE HALF BILLION. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. I MEAN, IT'S A CRAZY AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND THE TIME THEY WOULD GET THE DIRT RELATIVELY QUICKLY, BUT THE VALUATION HEARINGS WOULD LAST FOR YEARS. AND THEN YOU HAVE MASSIVE SEVERANCE DAMAGES. SOME OF THE HOMES THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO MAKE TRY TO SEVER, THEY'D END UP HAVING TO TAKE TOTALLY BECAUSE THE VALUE WOULD BASICALLY BE VIRTUALLY BE VIRTUALLY ZERO. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SOUND WALL RIGHT UP AGAINST YOUR BACK DOOR. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE WITH ENOUGH MONEY, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE COUNTY TO DO THIS. SO I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE ENCLOSING. I'VE BEEN IN HERE SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES, MID EIGHTIES. AND I KNOW OKEECHOBEE GOT WIDENED AND I KNOW SOUTHERN BOULEVARD GOT WIDENED. AND I STILL IN MY MIND BEING HERE IS AS LONG AS I THINK THOSE WERE UNIQUE TO THAT AREA AND THEY MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE RURAL OR A LITTLE MORE COMMERCIAL WITH A LITTLE MORE LAND THAN WHAT WE HAVE ON NORTH LAKE. SO I THINK IT'S THE COUNTY VERSUS AN ARMY. SO OBVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO SUPPORT IT AND AND WE'LL BE HAPPILY INVOLVED WITH WHATEVER IT TAKES TO RATTLE THE COUNTY'S CAGE AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE. [01:10:07] SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CARL. MARK, THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT DRIVES PEOPLE NUTS. IT'S SILLINESS. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MERIT. THERE'S NO POSSIBLE CHANCE OF SAVING. GOING TO GET OFF THE GROUND. WE'RE WASTING PEOPLE'S TIME. WE'RE WASTING PEOPLE'S MONEY. WE HAVE BETTER WAYS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS AND MOVING PEOPLE FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST. SO PLEASE FORWARD ALL OF THE COMMISSIONER'S EMAIL ADDRESSES AND THE TPA AND ANYBODY ELSE WE CAN EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL WILL SEND A NOTE JUST REQUESTING THAT THEY USE THEIR MONEY IN THEIR TIME IN A BETTER AND MORE EFFECTIVE WAY. THANK YOU, ROCHELLE. WELL, AGAIN, I WANTED TO THANK ROSS AND TODD FOR ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU PUT IN. AND RON, YOU STOLE MY WORDS BECAUSE I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY AND IT DIDN'T COST THE CITY $400,000 TO DO THE OBVIOUS. WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE CITY, AND THERE'S LITTLE POCKETS OF THINGS GOING ON ALL OVER. AND WE HAD ONE PROJECT COME BEFORE US LAST WEEK AND THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT UNHAPPY ABOUT THE BUFFERS ENCROACHING ON THEIR PROPERTY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STANDS TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY LIKE NO OTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, EVEN THE EPA TO PUT A MAJOR EIGHT LANE HIGHWAY. IT'S SOMETHING THE RESIDENTS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO GET ANGRY AND TAKE TAKE ACTION ON. I WAS FLABBERGASTED WHEN I HAD MY AGENDA REVIEW AND SAW THE THE PRESENTATION. IT JUST FOR THE LIFE OF ME CANNOT FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW AND WHY THIS MAKES SENSE IN ANY WAY. I'M THINKING ABOUT FP CHANNEL. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE UTILITIES. THEY ARE SO TIED UP RIGHT NOW TRYING TO PUT HALF THE STATE BACK TOGETHER AND THE COUNTY IS GOING TO ASK THEM TO MOVE UTILITY POLES. I JUST. SO. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, NOTED. WE CAN SENSE YOUR FRUSTRATION. I UNDERSTAND. I DO. MARCY, THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY SAID HERE ON THE DAIS. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS. THAT'S THE FIRST WORD THAT CAME TO MY MIND WHEN I SAW THE PRESENTATION. I AGREE WITH EVERY COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY THE PUBLIC. I MOVED HERE TO PALM BEACH GARDENS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO BECAUSE I LIKE THE GARDENS ASPECT OF THE NORTH COUNTY AND THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE. AND I DO NOT WANT SOUTHERN BOULEVARD OR OKEECHOBEE BOULEVARD, WHICH I WORK ONE BLOCK FROM OKEECHOBEE BOULEVARD, AND I USED TO LIVE VERY CLOSE TO SOUTHERN BOULEVARD, AND I MOVED HERE FOR A REASON. SO I 100% AGREE WITH YOU. IT'S TAKEN NO OFFENSE, MARIA, BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT IT'S TAKEN LITERALLY TEN YEARS TO PUT A TURN LANE AT PGA AND MILITARY. SO THAT'S ONE TURN LANE AND IT'S NOT EVEN DONE. WE STILL HAVE MASSED ARMS IN THE WAY. AND I JUST AND THAT'S A COUNTY PROJECT. AND IT STARTED WE BEGGED FOR THAT WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL YEARS AGO, OVER A DECADE AGO, AND IT'S STILL NOT DONE. WE'VE HAD RICHARD'S ROAD, THE CONGRESS AVENUE EXTENSION ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR TEN YEARS, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN BEEN OR MORE 20 YEARS, ACTUALLY TWO DECADES. AND IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT DONE. AND THAT'S JUST ONE TINY LITTLE ROAD RIGHT OFF OF NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. SMALL, SMALL LITTLE EXTENSION. AND SO THAT'S WHY LUDACRIS CAME TO MY MIND. WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY THAT WAS MENTIONED. THE MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE GUARD HOUSES. THEY HAVE STACKING. NOW, THAT IS ALREADY NOT ENOUGH. THEY NEED MORE STACKING. AND HERE WE HAVE 20, POSSIBLY 30 FEET TAKING AWAY FROM THERE ALREADY SHORT STACKING ABILITIES FOR THEIR GUARD HOUSES BECAUSE THEY'RE GATED COMMUNITIES. AND THAT IS A SAFETY, A MAJOR WELFARE AND SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE GOING TO STACK ONTO A VERY BUSY ROAD. YOU BROUGHT UP TURN LANES. THIS PROJECT OR THIS RIGHT OF WAY TAKING DIDN'T EVEN ACCOUNT FOR ANY D CELL LANES, NOR DID IT ACCOUNT FOR UTILITIES AS THEY VERY WELL STATED, THOSE UTILITY. I'M LITERALLY SPENT 4 HOURS THIS MORNING WORKING WITH AT&T TO RELOCATE A FIVE MILE STRETCH OF A MAIN COMMUNICATION LINE, FIBER OPTIC LINE AND THEY ARE REQUIRING 15 FEET. [01:15:04] IT WAS A 20 FOOT. IT WAS A TEN FOOT. BUT NOW THEY NEED 15 FEET OF UTILITIES ALONG THAT STRETCH BECAUSE SO MANY COMMUNICATION COMPANIES WANT TO BE WITHIN THE SAME UTILITY. SO THAT'S JUST COMMUNICATION. THAT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT FPL AND ANY OF THE OTHER UTILITIES, SEA COAST OR ANY OF THE OTHERS. AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THEY CAN'T BE RIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE'RE IN FLORIDA AND THEIR LINES WOULD BE UNDERWATER IF THEY DID THAT. SO THEY NEED MORE ROOM IN WIDTH TO GET EVERYTHING IN THERE. SO THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER ASPECT OF THIS THAT I'M SORRY, BUT DAVID RICKS SHOULD KNOW THIS BECAUSE HE'S AN ENGINEER, SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. IT MAKES NO SENSE. I SUPPORT 100% OF A SPECIAL MEETING IF WE NEED TO BRING OTHER PEOPLE IN HERE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S SHORT NOTICE AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE WORD OUT BECAUSE THIS AFFECTS SO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES, SO MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS, COMMUNITIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY, AND ALSO SO MANY OF THE AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN THE COUNTY. BUT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN THE GARDENS BECAUSE THEY'RE UNINCORPORATED AND THEY SHOULD KNOW THIS AS WELL. I'M ALSO 100% IN SUPPORT OF THE MAYOR GOING TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'LL DO AN AMAZING JOB AND MAKE OUR FEELINGS KNOWN TO THEM. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO I CAN KEEP GOING. BUT THIS IS JUST SO RIDICULOUS. I DON'T WANT TO GO ANYMORE. BUT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. LET ME ASK A QUESTION, PATTI. HOW DO WE I'M SO SORRY. WE HAVE TO WE DO HAVE TO FOLLOW PROCEDURES. WE CAN WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE GET WITH YOU SO THAT WE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AT ANOTHER TIME. THANK YOU. THOUGH I DO WANT TO SUMMARIZE THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE AGENDA YET TO GET THROUGH. SO WE'RE STILL AT THE CITY MANAGER REPORT. WHAT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOW WATCHING THIS OR THAT WILL GO BACK AND WATCH THE RECORDING. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE COUNTY ENGINEER, DAVID RICKS, IS BRINGING TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING A STUDY TO WIDEN NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD TO EIGHT LANES. THAT STUDY WOULD COST THE TAXPAYERS ABOUT HALF OF $1,000,000 FOR A PROJECT THAT IF YOU GO BACK AND WATCH THAT RECORDING, HE WAS. WENT BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLANNING OF WHAT THAT PROJECT COULD ACTUALLY BE. SO IT WAS FUZZY. SO A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY FOR A STUDY FOR WHAT MR. RICKS IS CALLING A PLANNING DOCUMENT BECAUSE ROAD WIDENING, ADDING CAPACITY DOES NOT DECREASE TRAFFIC. WE'VE HEARD THAT IT JUST PUTS MORE CARS ON THE ROAD. AND IF WE'RE HERE TO SET POLICY TO EFFECT CHANGE ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND HAPPINESS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, TO PROTECT OUR ECONOMY AND ACTUALLY FIX ISSUES LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RESILIENCY AND MOBILITY, THIS IS THE ANTITHESIS OF HOW TO GET IT DONE. WE DO NEED TO COME TOGETHER, BRING IN OUR STAKEHOLDERS. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT. AND IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC MEETING FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, DISCLOSURE AND UNDERSTANDING, WE WILL DO IT. WE WILL KEEP AN EYE ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION AGENDA AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL KNOW WELL ENOUGH AHEAD TO GIVE OUR RESIDENTS ENOUGH TIME TO COME AND GET EDUCATED. IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE YOU GUYS TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT FOR US. GET IT OUT NOW. THIS METHOD OF ROADWAY EXPANSION IS OLD FASHIONED. IT'S ANTIQUATED, AND IT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY TRAFFIC HERE IS SO BROKEN. SO WE NEED TO SHAPE THE VISION FOR WHAT TRANSPORTATION WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS. AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE PAVING OVER HOMES, PAVING OVER BACKYARDS, PAVING OVER BUSINESSES AND PAVING OVER PARADISE. SO THANK YOU, RON, FOR BRINGING THIS. MAY I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT AMERICA? IS THE WESTERN PORTION OF NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD FROM STATE ROAD SEVEN TO COCONUT IS ALREADY APPROVED FOR SIX LANES. AND IS IT ALREADY ENGINEERED FOR SUCH? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ETERNALLY THAT OSPREY ISLES TOO. RIGHT. WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT? ACTUALLY, BY THE WAY, NATALIE, IT'S ALSO FUNDED AVANIR PAID FOR. ALL RIGHT, TODD, I HAVE A QUESTION. MAYBE BETTER. ALL RIGHT. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRIAN SEYMOUR. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND JUST HAPPY I'M HERE? BRIAN SEYMOUR I AM BOTH A RESIDENT, BUT I'M ALSO THE LAWYER FOR THE PROPERTY FROM WHICH THAT TURN LANE IS GOING TO GO. SO NICE TO MEET YOU. SO I HAVE ACTUALLY SPOKEN WITH TONYA MCCONNELL, WHO IS WORKS FOR AVANIR, WHO I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW SHE USED TO BE THE DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY. PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IF SHE STILL WAS. [01:20:01] BUT THE TIMING ON THAT GAVE US ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO TRY TO GET THROUGH OUR PROCESS, GET AN APPROVAL WHERE WE'LL END UP DEDICATING THE RIGHT AWAY FOR THAT. AND THEN AVANIR WILL INCLUDE THAT IN ITS CONSTRUCTION OF WHAT THE WORK THEY'RE DOING FOR THE NORTH LAKE WIDENING. SO THE GOAL IS TO GET HERE, GET IT THERE. WE HAVE TO RESUBMIT. BY THE WAY, IT'S ALL ON US RIGHT NOW. BUT WE'RE WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH TODD, TALKING WITH NATALIE, WORKING THROUGH TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THAT DONE IN A TIME FRAME. SO THAT'LL GET BUILT FOR THE FOLKS AT OSPREY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER RACHELLE? DID YOU WANT TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT? ONE QUICK QUESTION. SINCE THE SECTION FROM THE B-LINE TO STATE ROAD SEVEN IS NOT PART OF THIS AND WE HAVE THIS WHOLE BEELINE NORTH LAKE RECONFIGURATION BY FDOT WHERE IT'S ALL GOING TO FUNNEL IN RIGHT THERE. HAVE THEY WEIGHED IN? HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AT ALL? WHAT HOW THIS IS GOING TO LIKE UPEND THEIR PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK THE WAY THEY'RE PLANNING WITH THIS? YEAH, WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THEM. THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS. ONE IS FUNDED, ONE IS DESIGNED, ONE IS READY TO GO. THE OTHER ONE IS A MAYBE 12 YEARS, MAYBE NEVER DREAMED THAT THE COUNTY IS PUTTING OUT THERE. SO THE DOT IS GOING TO THEY HAVE TO DO SO. THE TWO AREN'T GOING TO COORDINATE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DESIGN SOMETHING THAT MAY HAPPEN 12 YEARS IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW? BUT THEY WOULDN'T WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT IT WOULD BE I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD THEY THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, THEIR CORRIDORS TO BEELINE HIGHWAY AND HOW IT WOULD CONVERGE WITH WITH WHAT THE DOD IS CURRENTLY DOING. THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY TO THE DOT STANDARDS THERE AS THEY COME INTO THESE INTERSECTIONS. YOU KNOW, AND ONE OF THE THINGS LOOKING AT THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY HAVE THE TWO U-TURNS COMING ON NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD WHERE IT'S ONLY TWO LANES NOW. SO THAT'S TAKEN A LOT OF WIDTH THERE. SO THERE'S REALLY NO MORE ROOM TO WIDEN THAT CHOKE SECTION WITHIN WEST PALM BEACH AND THE WATER CATCHMENT AREA ON NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD. SO THAT AREA GETS REALLY TIGHT IN THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS, TODD. SO, CITY MANAGER REPORT. RON, ANYTHING ELSE? JUST A REMINDER, RESOLUTION 71 IS ON CONSENT. COULD WE ASSUME THAT BY APPROVING RESOLUTION 71, THE MAYOR WOULD THEN BE AUTHORIZED ALSO TO SIGN THE LETTER? YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH IT. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT? I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT FROM EVERYONE. THAT IF IT WOULD BE UNANIMOUS, IF WE DON'T, WHY DON'T WE PULL IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA SO WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE TO DO THAT? [VII. CONSENT AGENDA] ALL RIGHT, MORE SO MARK'S GOING TO PULL IT. SO LET'S MOVE. ARE WE ALL SET, RON? I'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT. THANK YOU, SIR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS RESOLUTION 71, 2022. SECOND. THANK YOU. IS ANYONE PULLING ANYTHING ELSE OFF OF CONSENT? LIKE TO PULL NUMBER G THE KEY STRATEGIES AND INITIATIVES OFF THE CONSENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, DO I NEED TO ASK FOR ANOTHER MOTION? MAX, NOW THAT WE'VE GOT TO HOLD? YOU WANT TO JUST MAKE AN AMENDED MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE AN AMENDED MOTION. MAKING A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM G, RESOLUTION 64, 2022, AND RESOLUTION 7120 22. ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, GREAT. SHALL WE BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION OR JUST VOTE ON 70? VOTE ON IT. LET'S ALL IN FAVOR. MY MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. SO LET'S GO AHEAD. AND THAT WAS ON CONSENT. THAT WAS CONSENT. AND JUST VOTED 21 GIVES ME 71. I NEED TO READ THE TITLE OF 71 RESOLUTION 7120 22 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, OPPOSING THE PALM BEACH COUNTY'S EXPENDITURE OF UP TO $400,000 TO COMMISSION A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOROUGHFARE. RIGHT AWAY. I ID MAP TIME T 14.1 FOR THE NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD EAST TIMME AND THE NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD WEST TIMME PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE PURPOSES. OOPS. HERE WE GO. THANK YOU, PATTY. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING RESOLUTION 71? I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLARIFY THAT WITH THIS RESOLUTION THAT THE MAYOR IS PERMITTED BY THE COUNCIL TO SIGN THE LETTER. THANK YOU. THAT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESOLUTION. YES, I MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU, MARCI. AND SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. YES. FOR RESOLUTION 71 TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 71, INCLUDING THE MAYOR SIGNING THE LETTER THAT WE'VE REVIEWED. I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSE MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU SO MUCH, PATTY. 64. BEAR WITH ME. MY AGENDA IS A LOT OF PAPER TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT, SO IF I COULD ASK THE CLERK TO READ THE TITLE FOR RESOLUTION 6420 21, PLEASE. [VII.g. RESOLUTION 64, 2022 – 2022 KEY STRATEGIES AND INITIATIVES. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, ADOPTING PFM GROUP CONSULTING, LLC’S REVIEW OF KEY STRATEGIES & INITIATIVES 2022 AS A COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] [01:25:06] RESOLUTION 64, 2022, A RESOLUTION THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA ADOPT ADOPTING PFM GROUP CONSULTING LLC'S REVIEW OF KEY STRATEGIES AND INITIATIVES 2022 AS A COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE PURPOSES. THANK YOU. MAKE IT A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. WE HAVE TO DISCUSS IT. SORRY, RACHELLE. YOU PULLED IT. GO AHEAD. WE DISCUSS FIRST. YEAH, LET'S DISCUSS IT FIRST, PLEASE. SO. GET A SECOND. NO, NO. WE CAN HAVE A QUICK. DO YOU WANT TO DO A DISCUSSION? DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON IT FIRST? DOES IT MATTER? DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO DISCUSSION. PLEASE GO AHEAD, DISCUSS IT. SO BACK IN IN AUGUST, ON AUGUST 17TH, WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM FME ON THE. WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL NAME OF IT ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PLAN. COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TONIGHT TO ADOPT THE REPORT AS A COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN TO HELP STREAMLINE A VISION FOR THE CITY'S FUTURE. I THINK IT WAS GREAT THAT WE WENT AND HAD AN OUTSIDE COMPANY COME IN TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE DOING IT, AND TO GIVE THE CITY A CHECK UP. I THINK IT'S EQUALLY GREAT THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING SO MUCH OF WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE PLAN. PART OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, AND I KNOW BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT UP AT THE WORKSHOP WAS THE DATA THAT WAS USED IN THE PLAN WAS FROM 2019 AND WE HAVE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THEN. AND IF WE HAD BEEN ASKED TO VOTE ON IT IN 2019, IT WOULD HAVE MADE SENSE. BUT RIGHT NOW, WITH THE 2020 CENSUS, WITH TAXABLE PROPERTIES INCREASING SO MUCH AND OUR AD VALOREM NUMBERS SO MUCH, AND THEN LOWERING THE MILLAGE RATE AND PUTTING THAT IN THE TEN YEAR PLAN WITH THE BUDGET, I JUST FEEL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN ADDENDUM TO THE PLAN AS WRITTEN WITH THE UPDATED DATA TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHERE THE CITY IS NOW. AT THE TIME THAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO ACCEPT THIS AS A COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND I WANTED COUNCIL'S INPUT ON THAT. SO THE PART I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS MY MISUNDERSTANDING. SO THE THE STUDY WAS SOMETHING SEPARATE. SO WOULD WE BE HIRING THAT STUDY GROUP AGAIN TO COME UP TO ADD TO IT? BECAUSE WE WERE ACCEPTING THE STUDY THEY PROVIDED FOR US, IS THAT LIKE, HERE IS THE STUDY, RIGHT? SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE COULD ADD AN ADDENDUM TO SOMETHING THAT WAS PROVIDED AS A WHOLE UNIT. I DON'T KNOW. I HAD ASKED THEM AT THE MEETING. HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE NUMBERS WERE NO LONGER THE SAME. AND THEN WE ASKED, OKAY, LET'S TAKE A MONTH. LET'S HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK BEFORE US. AND I GUESS I EXPECTED TO SEE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT ACKNOWLEDGED THAT UPDATE. AND IT'S NOT THERE, IF I MAY ADD TO THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I WAS GOING TO PULL AS WELL. AND TO ME, A STRATEGIC PLAN IS IS A ROADMAP OF THE FUTURE. IT DEFINES THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE. IT INCLUDES GOALS AND OBJECTIVES GOING FORWARD. AND I LOVE THE KEY STRATEGIES AND INITIATIVE REPORT. IT WAS A GREAT REPORT. IT WAS A GREAT TOOL AND I APPRECIATED IT. EVERYTHING THAT IT WAS IN THERE AT THE WORKSHOP, I RECALL THAT YOU HAD ASKED TO DO THAT. YOU HAD ASKED FOR THIS TO BE INCLUDED IN A AS A STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS CONSENSUS FROM BI ALL OF US TO DO THAT. AGAIN, IT WAS GREAT. BUT IN THE REPORT IT MENTIONED THAT WE SHOULD ASSURE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THAT WAS MENTIONED NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE REPORT. AND I ALSO THINK THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED, ROCHELLE, THAT NOT ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE PART OF IT, THAT YOU ASKED ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WAS PART OF THE STAKEHOLDERS. SO I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION, A PUBLIC WORKSHOP, NOT AT THIS MEETING, BUT A DISCUSSION ON THE FUTURE, ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH AND TO BRING IN OUR BUSINESS AND OUR RESIDENTIAL STAKEHOLDERS LIKE WE DID KIND OF TONIGHT ON A DIFFERENT TOPIC TO CREATE A STRATEGIC PLAN. BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR REPORT HAD QUESTIONS, IT HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS, AND IN ADDITION, THE REPORT WAS [01:30:01] CREATED WELL, I SAID BY REVIEWING THE STAKEHOLDERS. SO I DO SUGGEST THAT WE TABLE THIS FOR A FUTURE MEETING AND DISCUSS IT IN MORE DETAIL AND PROVIDE SOME CLEAR DIRECTION AND GOALS TO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS AND ON SUBJECTS LIKE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND ANNEXATION AND EXPANDING THE TOD AND SURTAX INITIATIVES AND PARKS AND RECREATIONS. HOW DO WE SEE OUR CITY GROWING AND BRING OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS, INCLUDING OURSELVES, BECAUSE WE WERE NOT EVEN INTERVIEWED FOR THIS PLAN? AND SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD A SAY IN THE MATTER AS WELL. THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. OKAY. MARGARET CARL. BUT I HADN'T PUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO IT. I DO AGREE WITH YOUR LAST STATEMENT, MARCY. YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY CAME IN AND DID THE CONSULTING AND THEY DID THEIR REPORT, I WAS WONDERING WHY WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS RESIDENTS OF THE CITY THAT REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, WHY THERE WASN'T ANY QUESTION TO US, OR AT LEAST A COMMENT, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? I MEAN, THE REPORT WAS GREAT. IT OBVIOUSLY SHOWED WHAT WHERE THE CITY SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD. IT IS A COUPLE OF YEARS OLD, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO CHANGE. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CITY WOULD BE IN THE STAFF WOULD BE ANALYZING EACH OF THOSE INITIATIVES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AS NEEDS AND CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE. THAT WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION. BUT AND SO THIS IS A ROAD MAP. IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT HARD SET IN STONE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO DO. AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING TO GO. SO THERE HAS GOT TO BE A LOT OF LEEWAY IN THAT AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON EACH OF THESE TOPICS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE I MEAN, AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP WHEN ADD MORE RESIDENTS, I DON'T KNOW. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SHOW UP TO THE LAST ONE. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK. BUT WILL WE HAVE AN ACTIVE AMOUNT OF ENGAGED RESIDENTS TO BE A PART OF IT? I DON'T KNOW. I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO HAVING A WORKSHOP ONE MORE OR AT LEAST DISCUSSIONS. BUT IF WE DO THAT, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONSULTANTS SPEAK TO MORE OF THE RESIDENTS, WHETHER IT'S JUST THE COUNCIL OR DO SOMETHING TO TO MAKE SURE. I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL WE HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, THEN I'D SUPPORT THAT. ALL RIGHT, CARL. I THINK I'M A LITTLE IGNORANT ON THIS ONE BECAUSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE HERE BY WHEN WE HIRED THE CONSULTANT TO COME IN. HE HE GAVE US THEIR OPINION. IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME TO HEAR THE CONSULTANT'S OPINION ON THE STABILITY OF THE CITY, THE WAY IT'S RUN, THE VISION, THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING. AND IT BROUGHT ME COMFORT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $200 MILLION BUDGET AND SO ON. AND I THOUGHT IT ENDED THERE. SO FORGIVE ME IF I DON'T. YOU GUYS MIGHT BE LOOKING BEYOND THE OUTREACH OF THE CONSULTANT THAT THEY HIRED AT THE MOMENT. SO I DON'T WANT TO SEND THE MESSAGE BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER SPECIFICALLY THAT EVERY TIME HE HIRES A CONSULTANT FOR SOMETHING, THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO THEN BLOW IT APART. AND THEN, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS? WHAT ABOUT THAT? WHAT ABOUT THIS? WHAT ABOUT THAT? I COULD BE WRONG. I WANT SOMEONE TO CORRECT ME BECAUSE I LEFT IT AS HE WAS THERE AT THE PODIUM THAT HE MET THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF CONSULTING FOR SPECIFICALLY WHAT HE WAS HIRED TO DO. AND THEN THAT WAS THE END OF IT. I THINK I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BLOW UP AND GO FURTHER, SO I KIND OF LEFT IT ALONE. AND THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD. THE THE INTENTION OF OF THIS STUDY WAS TO SORT OF PUT A PIN IN IT. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. WHAT? I THOUGHT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE FUTURE WILL BE. I'VE BEEN. YES, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. WELL, IT'S WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY FINISHED THE STUDY, WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS HIRED FOR. RIGHT. SO IF YOU'RE FREEZING THAT MOMENT IN TIME AND MEMORIALIZING IT WITH THE GOALS IN THAT MOMENT. I WAS AT THE CHAMBER ALL MORNING THIS MORNING WORKING ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CHAMBER, WHICH THEY REDO. THEY DID IT FIVE YEARS AGO AND NOW THEY'RE DOING IT WITH A THREE YEAR EYE. AND IT'S ABOUT WE LOOKED AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN FROM FIVE YEARS AGO. NOT LIKE A THIRD OF IT MAY BE HAPPENED. WE DON'T HAVE CRYSTAL BALLS. WHAT I DO SEE THE STUDY IS BEING IS, LIKE I SAID, A MOMENT IN TIME FOR THE CITY WERE ON THAT DAY THAT IT WAS SUBMITTED. THAT IS HOW THE CITY LOOKED AND THAT WAS WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE CITY LOOKED LIKE. WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY CONSIDER, AND THIS IS COMPLETELY OFF THE CUFF, IS EVERY TWO YEARS WE DO A RESIDENT SURVEY THAT IS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT OUR [01:35:06] RESIDENTS THINK ABOUT THINGS. PERHAPS THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO FOLD IN SOME OF THIS KNOWLEDGE AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO FILL OUT A FORM ONLINE THAN THEY ARE GOING TO COME HERE AT 7:00 AT NIGHT ON A THURSDAY, NUMBER ONE. SO WE CAN TAKE THAT DATA COMBINED WITH THIS DATA AND NOT SEE THIS SO MUCH AS A CRYSTAL BALL TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY, BUT PERHAPS SEE IT MORE OF AS IT WAS A REVIEW OF KEY STRATEGIES AND INITIATIVES FOR OUR CITY IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME. BECAUSE I, I SPEND A LOT OF MY TIME COMMUNICATING WITH RESIDENTS ON EMAIL, SOCIAL MEDIA, PHONE CALLS, TEXT MESSAGES, YOU NAME IT, AND GETTING SOMEONE TO CARE ABOUT SOMETHING SO MUCH AS AS EPHEMERAL AS A STRATEGIC PLAN. IT'S SO HARD. SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE GOOD WORK THAT WAS DONE IN ORDER TO SHARPEN IT AS MY ONLY CONCERN. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I DON'T WANT TO LOSE. I LIKE THAT IDEA OF FOLDING THE RESIDENT SURVEY AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE DATA EITHER. TO ME, THIS WAS A LOOK ON THE PAST, NOT THE FUTURE. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE POINTS OF THIS. AND I THOUGHT I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE OF A I LIKED THIS REPORT SO MUCH THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER AND UTILIZE THE POINTS THAT WE ALL LOVE IN THIS AND MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT NOT EVERY ASPECT. I DON'T HAVE THE DISCUSSION OVER WHAT'S IN HERE. ISSUES THAT THAT MARCY HAS ON THAT. I'M NOT FEELING THAT WAY. WHAT I'M FEELING IS IF WE'RE JUST ADOPTING THE REPORT AS A REPORT AS OF THE CITY OF 2019, IT'S ONE THING. I MEAN, COVID CAME IN THE WAY WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT QUICKER AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US MORE TIMELY WITHOUT COVID. BUT WE HAVE CHANGED. I MEAN, OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION HAS CHANGED SO MUCH. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED INTO THE CITY IS GOING TO AFFECT THAT HOUSING PART OF THE PLAN. DRAMATICALLY THE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE COMING IN AD VALOREM NOW AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE TEN YEARS WITH THE LOWER BUDGET, WITH THE LOWER MILITARY. I JUST WITHOUT THAT BEING IN THERE TO ACCEPT IT AS A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. BUT THIS WAS MARCH OF MARCH OF 2022. IT WASN'T 2019 THAT A LOT OF THE DATA THAT CAME IN FROM 2019 AND AND AND THE CENSUS WAS COMING OUT IN 2020. RIGHT. WELL, THE CENSUS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TEN YEARS BEHIND, THOUGH. SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING. CAN I ASK A QUESTION AGAIN? I JUST WANTED TO ADD, WHAT'S THE GOAL OF DISCUSSING THIS? NOT DISRESPECTING ANYTHING ROCHELLE'S QUESTIONING, BUT BY DISCUSSING THIS, WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS DISCUSSION? WHAT CHANGE? WHAT CHANGE YOU'RE HOPING TO EFFECTUATE? I JUST WANTED TO HAVE COUNSEL'S INPUT ON ACCEPTING THIS AS A PLAN GOING FORWARD WITHOUT AN ADDENDUM ON THERE. LIKE, MAYBE THAT'S THE EVERY TWO YEARS WE ADD AN ADDENDUM. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY RIGHT NOW AND HOW THAT WOULD FIT IN. CAN WE GET SOME CITY MANAGER INPUT? MAYBE YOU CAN HELP WITH THE PLAN AS IS AND THEN UPDATE IT IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME OR SOMETHING. WHY DON'T WE TABLE IT FOR THIS MEETING? BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A HUGE AGENDA AND WE CAN TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL THIS SHOULD BE FOR THE NEXT MEETING. I NEED RON. COME ON IN. RON. I LIKE THE PLAN I HAVE. I THINK THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF PICTURING US. I JUST THINK, YEAH, I DO. I JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT MORE AND BE MORE OF A PART OF IT. WELL, I THINK THE QUESTION, IF I MAY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A CONSULTANT THAT BROUGHT IN A STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLAN IN MY SIX YEARS, FIVE AND A HALF YEARS. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE WE'VE SEEN, WHICH IS GREAT. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE GOAL GOING FORWARD? ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS MORE OFTEN? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION LIKE THE SMALL LITTLE POCKETS AND SAY, NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT AS WE GO. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT DO WE WHAT DO WE APPROVE? IT'S A GREAT WHAT DO WE DO? AND I GUESS A GREAT PLAN. OKAY, FINE. WE ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF IT, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH IT? CAN WE PAUSE A SECOND? I NEED THE CITY MANAGER TO SPEAK ON THIS. HE'S HEARD ENOUGH OF US. ALL RIGHT, SO JUST CAN YOU JUST POINT US ON FERRIS? PLEASE SPEAK? LET'S. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW. THE PLAN WAS COMMISSIONED TO CHECK OURSELVES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING. WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IN MEETING WITH STAFF AND PRINCIPAL PLAYERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WAS MOVING RIGHT WITH THE TOD. THE CITY'S RIGHT WITH, YOU KNOW, SO IT IS A PICTURE IN TIME, BUT IT'S ALSO DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF MEMBERS ABOUT WHERE WHERE WE [01:40:06] SEE GOING TO THE FUTURE AND WITH THOSE PLAYERS THAT THEY COMMUNICATED WITH TO SEE IF THE CITY WAS ONLINE. NOW, IT WAS A REPORT CARD. IT WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE MIGHT WANT TO GO IN THE FUTURE. IT WAS A VISION. IT WAS ESTABLISHED BY STANDARD CRITERIA TO USE AS A BASE OF THE INFORMATION THEY HAD ON 2020 NOW. AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION, IT WAS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS STUDY WAS DONE. AND HERE'S WHAT THE STUDY SAID. AND IT INDICATED THAT, ACCORDING TO THE STUDY BY THE CONSULTANT, WE WERE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THERE WAS INDICATIONS IN THIS STUDY THAT ANNEXATION WAS IN THE FUTURE, THAT FINANCES WERE GOOD, THE TODS THE RIGHT THING. AND SO BASICALLY IT SAYS, OKAY, YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE RIGHT THINGS AND YOU'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WHAT IT DID NOT DO AND WHICH HAPPENS EVERY YEAR. IT DIDN'T TELL YOU HOW TO BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FOLLOWING YEAR. IT DIDN'T. IT TOLD YOU THAT THE TEN YEAR FORECASTING WAS A GOOD FORECASTING TOOL THAT CHANGES EVERY YEAR. POPULATION CHANGES EVERY YEAR. OUR GOALS CAN CHANGE EVERY YEAR. THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS CAN CHANGE EVERY YEAR. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN GET A STRATEGIC PLAN TO GET YOU THAT KIND OF DETAIL TO PROJECT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THAT'S WHY YOU RELY ON YOUR BUDGET. THAT'S WHY YOU RELY ON YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. IT IS A PICTURE IN TIME THAT SAYS YOU'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING. NOW, IN THE FUTURE, YOU HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE. YOU HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE ON THE BUDGET. YOU HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE ON ANNEXATION. YOU HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE ON THE TOD. WHETHER WE GO TALL OR WHETHER WE GO SHORT, WHETHER WE HAVE A TRAIN STATION, WHETHER WE DON'T, WHAT IS THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY INSIDE THAT OR NOT. THAT'S A DECISION MADE BY YOU ALL EVERY YEAR. WE CAN ANTICIPATE THAT INTO A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT IS AN ANNUAL BASIS IN WHICH YOU ALL SET PRIORITIES FOR THIS CITY THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A VISIONING DOCUMENT PER SE. IF YOU WANT A VISIONING DOCUMENT PER SE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT, HIRE A WHOLE NEW CONSULTANT, SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY REPEATING WHAT WE JUST DID. BUT THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. AND IF YOU WANT TO GET THE PUBLIC INVOLVED IN DEALING WITH THREATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE PUBLIC SEEMS TO BE PRETTY WELL SATISFIED SINCE THEY'RE NOT FILLING THIS CHAMBERS HERE, TELLING YOU HOW DISSATISFIED THEY ARE WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP, WITH THE ANNUAL PROCESS IN WHICH YOU PROVIDE LEADERSHIP. YOU'RE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. IF THEY WEREN'T NOT HAPPY WITH YOU WHERE YOU'RE TAKING THIS CITY. THEY WOULD BE HERE. TRUST ME. I'VE SEEN IT. I KNOW THEY WILL SHOW UP. SO I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH PLEASED WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THE PICTURE IN TIME SAYS YOU'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, YOU SET THE POLICY. YOU CAN CHANGE THAT ANY TIME YOU WANT, AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS WILL COME TO YOU AS WE CAN BRING THEM TO YOU. AND THAT, AGAIN, IS YOUR POLICY DECISION THAT YOU WILL MAKE SETTING THE VISION AND THE STRATEGIES FOR THE FUTURE. SO TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE THIS MOMENT IN TIME THAT WAS CAPTURED BY THIS STUDY THAT WE SIGNED OFF ON. WE HAVE RESIDENT INPUT EVERY TWO YEARS. WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT WE HAVE OUR HANDS IN DEEP, AND SO DO OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY CAN FIND IT ONLINE NOW AND IT GETS UPDATED EVERY NIGHT. AND WE ALSO HAVE A PROACTIVE, CARING STAFF THAT PRIMARILY LIVES IN THE GARDENS AND WE HAVE PHENOMENAL REPRESENTATION. SO I FEEL VERY MUCH SO LIKE WHAT MARCI IS SAYING AND WHAT ROCHELLE SAYING. I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING OATES THE NAME. SO. SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE. A MEATLOAF. WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PLATE. RIGHT? AND ON THAT PLATE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PIECES. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD TO TAKE ALL OF THAT, TURN IT INTO A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, A NUMBER ONE, WANT TO EVEN EAT. NUMBER TWO, THAT'S DIGESTIBLE. RIGHT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IN ALL THE PIECES OF IT, IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY IT'S KIND OF ALL THERE. [01:45:03] AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE NAME OF IT. I REALLY DO. I THINK THAT IT'S KIND OF HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND WRAP YOUR BRAIN AROUND IT. BUT WE DID HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING FOR IT THAT WAS WELL NOTICED. AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAME THAT I WOULD BE VOTING ON, THOUGH WE'RE NOT WE'RE DISCUSSING IT, YOU KNOW. BUT WHY ARE WE VOTING ON HOLDING IT IN AS A REMINDER OF WHY YOU'RE VOTING ON THIS? AT THE MEETING, IT WAS A COUNCIL SUGGESTION, NOT STAFF COUNCIL SUGGESTION, TO BRING THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN ADOPT IT AS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE WARD VISION THAT WAS WON BY COUNCIL. THIS COMES BEFORE YOU THAT WAS BE ADOPTED AS WELL. SO THAT WAS TO LEAVE IT ALONE. THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY IDEA, MY DECISION, BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO MEMORIALIZE IT AS A VISION DOCUMENT, AS A DOCUMENT THAT CAPTURED THE MOMENT IN TIME AND WHERE THE CITY IS HEADED FOR, SO THAT ANYBODY WHO CARED TO OPEN UP THIS GIANT DOCUMENT, WHICH IS ON OUR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, THEY UNDERSTOOD WHY IT'S JUST FLOATING OUT THERE. WHAT'S THE POINT OF THIS JUST FLOATING OUT THERE IN THE ETHERS? SO IT'S TO GIVE IT DEFINITION OF VALUE. AT THAT MEETING, I MIGHT ADD THAT IT SHOULD COME BACK AND BE ADOPTED. SO EVERYONE SAID, YES, LET'S DO THAT. YEAH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM FINDING THE REPORT THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE REPORT AT ALL. I JUST DON'T. DIDN'T THINK A STRATEGIC PLAN SHOULD BE ON A CONSENT AGENDA. RUBBER STAMP FOR NOBODY TO TO SEE. AND I FELT LIKE IT'S ALSO HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS GOING FORWARD IN THE REPORT THEY ASKED US QUESTIONS THAT WEREN'T ANSWERED. SO FOR THE FUTURE AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I ARE WE VOTING ON ARE WE VOTING ON TO LEAVE RESOLUTION 64 TO 2022 ALONE OR CHANGE SOMETHING? DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? SHE MADE THE MOTION ALREADY. SO OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE RESOLUTION 64, 2022 ALONE ON ITS FACE, IF THAT MATTERS. ALL SECONDED. I'M FINE WITH IT. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE AS IT IS NOW. ARE YOU. ARE YOU. ARE YOU REMOVING IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. SORRY. APPROVE IT TO PROVE IT. ALL RIGHT. AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YES, I CAN DO IT. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE A NAME VOTE. SO, CARL, ARE YOU IN FAVOR? YES. MARK, ARE YOU IN FAVOR? YES. ROCHELLE, ARE YOU IN FAVOR? YES. MARCY, ARE YOU IN FAVOR? YES, THE MAYOR'S IN FAVOR. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR THE CONVERSATION. AND JUST I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT IT AND HOPEFULLY OUR RESIDENTS PAY ATTENTION TO IT. AND HOPEFULLY THE NEXT SURVEY THAT GOES OUT WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE DIRECTION. AND I WOULD ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR FUTURE, I WON'T BE AROUND BUT INCLUDE THE COUNCIL AND SOME OF THESE CONSULTANTS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE RESIDENTS. IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THAT QUESTION ASKED AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A THING THAT THEY WANT TO INCLUDE NOTED. THIS IS A REPRESENTATIONAL DEMOCRACY. WE ARE MEANT TO BE HERE TO BE THE VOICE OF RESIDENTS THAT CAN'T BE HERE BECAUSE THEY TRUST US WITH THAT. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE TAKING THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS AND HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION. IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU ALL. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, RIGHT, PATTI? I'VE GOT A BIG PILE OF PAPERS HERE SO YOU CAN TELL ME IF I LOST MY PLACE. SO WE ARE GOING TO GO ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO READ THAT QUASI JUDICIAL STATEMENT. SO TONIGHT WE ARE HOLDING QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS ON THE FOLLOWING CASE, RESOLUTION 5820 22, PANTHER NATIONAL MASTER PLAN. THIS MEANS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO BASE ITS DECISION ON THE EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE RECORD OF THIS PROCEEDING, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE TESTIMONY AT THE HEARING, THE MATERIALS WHICH ARE IN THE OFFICIAL CITY FILE IN THIS APPLICATION AND ANY DOCUMENTS PRESENTED DURING THIS HEARING. THE COUNCIL IS ALSO REQUIRED BY LAW TO CROSS-EXAMINE ANY WITNESSES WHO TESTIFIED TONIGHT. CROSS CROSS-EXAMINATION MAY OCCUR AFTER THE STAFF, THE APPLICANT AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS HAVE MADE THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND WILL BE PERMITTED IN THE ORDER OF THE WITNESSES APPEARANCES. IT IS NECESSARY THAT ANYONE WHO TESTIFIES THAT THE HEARING REMAIN UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU PLAN TO TESTIFY THIS EVENING OR WISH TO OFFER WRITTEN COMMENTS, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY CLERK. THE CITY CLERK WILL NOW SWEAR IN ALL PERSONS WHO INTEND TO OFFER TESTIMONY THIS EVENING ON ANY OF THESE CASES. JUST. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE HEARING. I'D LIKE TO PLEASE CALL MARTIN FITZ TO THE PODIUM AND NATALIE CROWLEY. HELLO. MAYOR. EXCUSE ME. I'M GOING TO READ ORDINANCE TEN BY TITLE. [VIII.a. ORDINANCE 10, 2022 – (1ST READING) CITY-INITIATED LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TEXT AMENDMENT. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 78. LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AT SECTION 78-159. PERMITTED USES, MINOR AND MAJOR CONDITIONAL USES, AND PROHIBITED USES. BY REPEALING SUBSECTION (j)(61) AND READOPTING SAME, AS REVISED; FURTHER AMENDING CHAPTER 78. AT SECTION 78-222. TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT (TOD) OVERLAY DISTRICT. TO CREATE THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT (TOD) OVERLAY DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR PERMITTED, PROHIBITED, AND CONDITIONAL USES, AND DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA; FURTHER AMENDING CHAPTER 78. AT SECTION 78-751. DEFINITIONS. BY ADOPTING A NEW DEFINITION FOR “ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR USES”; PROVIDING THAT EACH AND EVERY OTHER SECTION AND SUBSECTION OF CHAPTER 78. LAND DEVELOPMENT. SHALL REMAIN IN FULL FORCE AND EFFECT AS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED; PROVIDING A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] I'M GOING TO READ ORDINANCE TEN BY TITLE. ALL RIGHT. COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE TITLE? YES, MA'AM. ORDINANCE TEN 2022. AN ORDINANCE THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 78 LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT SECTION 78. [01:50:04] 159 PERMITTED USES MINOR AND MAJOR CONDITIONAL USES AND PROHIBITED USES BY REPEALING SUBSECTION J 61 AND RE ADOPTING SAME AS REVISED FURTHER AMENDING CHAPTER 78, SECTION 78 TO 22. TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT TOD OVERLAY DISTRICT TO CREATE THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT TOD OVERLAY DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR PERMITTED, PROHIBITED AND CONDITIONAL USES AND DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA. FURTHER AMENDING CHAPTER 78 AT SECTION 78 751 DEFINITIONS BY ADOPTING A NEW DEFINITION FOR ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR USES, PROVIDING THAT EACH AND EVERY OTHER SECTION AND SUBSECTION OF CHAPTER 78 LAND DEVELOPMENT SHALL REMAIN IN FULL FORCE IN EFFECT AS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED, PROVIDING A COMPLEX CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU, PATTI, FOR READING THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS, SO LET'S GO AHEAD. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. YES, MA'AM, WE DO. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MARTIN FITTS. PLANNING AND ZONING. AND TONIGHT, I'LL BE GIVING A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON ORDINANCE TEN, 2022. THIS IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AMENDMENT TO ENACT THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT OR TOD OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 2020. THIS. THE ELDER AMENDMENT IS TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TO CODIFY THE ELEMENTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ALREADY. AN OBJECTIVE 1.3.9. THE 2D DISTRICT IS DEFINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS THOSE PARCELS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE PROPOSED RAIL STATION, WHICH IS TENTATIVELY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PGA BOULEVARD AND THE WEST SIDE OF ALTERNATE A1 ON THE FEC RAILWAY CORRIDOR. THE PROJECTS ARE SPECIFICALLY DELINEATED WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ARE READ ENUMERATED IN THE LDR AMENDMENT AS SHOWN ON THE MAP HERE. THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE TODD DISTRICT IS TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SUPPORTIVE OF TRANSIT USES AND A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AND MIXED USE CENTERED ON THE REGIONAL TRANSIT STATION AND ALSO PROVIDES FOR DENSITIES THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF MOBILITY AND TRANSIT. THE STANDARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE AMENDMENT ARE ARE INTENDED TO CODIFY THE THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I WILL NOTE THAT ALL THE EXISTING PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED PRIOR TO OCTOBER 16 WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT AND WILL NOT HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OTHER AMENDMENT. HOWEVER, ANY NEW PROJECTS OR REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WILL HAVE TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE DISTRICT. ONE THING THAT THE AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY DOES IS IDENTIFY THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED AND PROHIBITED WITHIN THE DISTRICT. FOR EXAMPLE, THE PASSENGER STATION IS ALLOWED AS A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE TODD DISTRICT AND ALONG WITH THE STANDALONE PARKING WHERE THE GARAGE OR SERVICE PREVIOUSLY A PASSENGER STATION WOULD REQUIRE A MAJOR CONDITIONAL USE. ALSO, THE LDR AMENDMENTS IDENTIFIES SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE TODD DISTRICT. THESE ARE VEHICLE I'M SORRY. VEHICLE DEPENDENT USES SUCH AS A DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT OR DRIVE THRU BANK AND CAR WASHES AND ALSO USES THAT ARE NOT PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, SUCH AS A WAREHOUSE CLUB OR SELF-STORAGE. IN ORDER TO BE A TRULY TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IS REQUIRED. THE PLAN ESTABLISHED A BASE DENSITY OF 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND ALSO ALLOWED FOR DIFFERENT DENSITY BONUSES FOR THE PROVISION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING. ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR USES AND OTHER OPTIONS. THESE OPTIONS ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY CODIFIES THOSE AND PROVIDES FOR THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA. SINCE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO ENCOURAGE MOBILITY AND TRANSIT USE, THE LDR AMENDMENT DOES ALLOW FOR DEVELOPERS TO REQUEST REDUCED PARKING AND PROVIDES FOR THE CRITERIA FOR THAT APPROVAL. ADDITIONALLY, TOD IS CHARACTERIZED BY A MIXTURE OF USES, BOTH WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS AND WITHIN THE PROJECT. SO THIS AMENDMENT CODIFIES WHAT AND DEFINES WHAT ACTIVE GRANTS OR USES ARE AND ENCOURAGES THOSE USE AND PROVIDES THE CRITERIA FOR FOR ADDING THOSE. THIS AMENDMENT WAS WAS NOTICED IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CODE. WE PROVIDED POSTINGS IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ALSO MAILERS TO ALL OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS. [01:55:05] AND WE ALSO PROVIDED A COURTESY COPY OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE PGA CORRIDOR ASSOCIATION. TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM THE CORRIDOR ASSOCIATION. WE DID. FOR THE BOARD'S NOTICE. WE DID HAVE A FEW PEOPLE FROM THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THIS AREA WHO DID SHOW UP AT THE FINDING ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD, AND THEY DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE ANSWERS THAT WE HAD FOR THOSE. THIS PARTICULAR PETITION ENACTS THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TOD DISTRICT. ALL THE PARCELS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE TODD WERE ALREADY INCLUDED THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NO ADDITIONAL PROJECTS OR PARCELS ARE BEING ADDED THROUGH THE LDR AMENDMENT. ALL PREVIOUS APPROVALS WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT. THERE WILL BE NO PROJECT OR PARCEL WITHIN THE DISTRICT IS REQUIRED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THIS LDR AMENDMENT. ONLY NEW PROJECTS OR REDEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE OF THE CRITERIA. ALSO, NONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ARE BEING REQUIRED TO HAVE ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR USES AS THEY EXIST TODAY. NO ONE WILL HAVE TO ALLOW BUSINESSES TO OPERATE ON THEIR FIRST FLOOR. ALSO, THERE ARE NO EMINENT DOMAIN TAKINGS THAT ARE BEING APPROVED WITH THIS PETITION, AND THERE ARE NO NO TAKINGS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS. THIS APPROVAL ALSO DOES NOT REQUIRE PROJECTS TO ALLOW ACCESS FOR PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLES THROUGH THE PROJECT IF THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO DO SO. AND IT ALSO DOES NOT ESTABLISH A SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR THE TRAIN STATION. THIS WAS HEARD, AS I MENTIONED AT THE FINDINGS, EARNING AN APPEALS BOARD IN AUGUST AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF SEVEN ZERO AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE TEN 2022 AS PRESENTED ON FIRST READING AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MARTIN AND THANK YOU FOR THAT SUMMARY SLIDE. THAT WAS EXCELLENT. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO LET'S SEE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK, SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING. MAY I GET A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE, PLEASE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. ROCHELLE, I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT, ROCHELLE, GO AHEAD. MAKE A MOTION. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? NO. LIKE I SAID DURING THE AGENDA REVIEW, IT'S IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THE SPECIFICS OF THE TOD COME TO LIFE AND MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE RESIDENTS WHAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN THERE AND WHAT A TOD ACTUALLY IS FOR ALL THE ALL THE TALK WE'VE HAD ABOUT IT. MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW. AND I THINK THIS KIND OF LAYS IT OUT AND THAT'S EXCITING TO SEE IT HAPPEN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? NO. WELL, I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE REDUCING THE VEHICLE DEPENDENCY WITHIN THAT AREA, MAKING IT VERY, VERY CLEAR. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO REALLY PUSH THAT MULTIMODAL ACTIVITY. AND WE ARE WALKING THE WALK IN OUR TOD FOR REAL NOW. SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF PUNNY. SO ALL IN FAVOR BY ANY OPPOSED MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. WE HAVE PATTI, IF YOU COULD PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR ORDINANCE 11, ORDINANCE 11 2022 IN ORDINANCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, [VIII.b. ORDINANCE 11, 2022 – (1ST READING) AMENDING SECTION 78-54 PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 78. LAND DEVELOPMENT. AT SECTION 78-54. – PUBLIC NOTICE. BY AMENDING THE PUBLIC NOTICE PROVISIONS SET FORTH IN TABLE 4: REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE AND BY REPEALING SUBSECTION (b)(2) AND READOPTING SAME, AS REVISED; PROVIDING A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] AMENDING CHAPTER 78 LAND DEVELOPMENT AT SECTION 7854 PUBLIC NOTICE BY AMENDING THE PUBLIC NOTICE PROVISIONS SET FORTH IN TABLE FOUR REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE AND BY REPEALING SUBSECTION B TO AND RE ADOPTING SAME AS REVISED PROVIDING A COMPLEX CLAUSE AS A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, HEY, FANCY MEETING YOU THERE. OKAY. MARTIN FITZ IS AT THE PODIUM. PLEASE GO AHEAD. FOR THE RECORD, MARTIN FITTS, PLANNING AND ZONING. THIS IS ORDINANCE 11 2022. THIS IS VERY MUCH A HOUSEKEEPING AMENDMENT TO INTENDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PASSED IN 2018 AND WITH STATE STATUTES. I WILL NOTE THAT WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS BASICALLY DOES TWO THINGS. THE FIRST IS TO MAKE ALL OF OUR PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR MAIL, MAILERS AND PROPERTY POSTINGS TO BE CONSISTENT IN ALL BE FOR TEN DAYS. CURRENTLY, THERE'S A BIT OF A VARIATION THERE. THE TEN DAYS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARTER AND WITH THE STATE STATUTES. ALSO, I'LL NOTE THAT THE STATE STATUTES DO NOT REQUIRE MAIL NOTICE FOR FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE ADVERTISED IN THE NEWSPAPER. THE CITY, HOWEVER, IS MAINTAINING MAIL NOTICES IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC AWARENESS. AS I MENTIONED, THE TEXT, THE TEXT AMENDMENT BASICALLY JUST IMMENSE. ALL OF THE PUBLIC NOTICE TO BE FOR TEN DAYS. AND ALSO IT REDUCES OR REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR ALL PUBLIC MAILINGS FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS TO BE DONE AS [02:00:01] CERTIFIED MAIL. SO THIS REMOVES A REQUIREMENT THAT WAS PARTICULARLY ONEROUS FOR ESPECIALLY FOR LARGE PROJECTS WHERE IT COULD BE A VERY HEAVY EXPENSE. THIS WAS HEARD AT THE FINDINGS EARNING AN APPEALS BOARD. IN SEPTEMBER 13, WE RECEIVED A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF SUPPORT AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 11 2022 AS PRESENTED ON FIRST READING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE HEARING. MAY GET A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE. PLEASE MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 11 2022 ON FIRST READING. ALL RIGHT, I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL? NO. IT'S JUST A WAY TO KEEP TRANSPARENCY OPEN AS BEST YOU CAN. THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. TALK ABOUT ME IF SOMEBODY PAYS ATTENTION. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO. AND, MARTIN, BEFORE YOU STEP DOWN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PROMOTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAN. WELL DESERVED. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, WE HAVE ORDINANCE 12. IF THE CLERK COULD PLEASE READ THE TITLE. [VIII.c. ORDINANCE 12, 2022 – (1ST READING) AMENDING CHAPTER 66 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EXEMPTION. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 66. TAXATION AT ARTICLE VI. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION BY REPEALING SECTION 66-310. SUNSET PROVISION. AND READOPTING SAME, AS REVISED, TO RENEW THE CITY COUNCIL’S AUTHORITY TO GRANT PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS TO CERTAIN QUALIFIED BUSINESSES PURSUANT TO STATE LAW AND THE CITY; PROVIDING THAT EACH AND EVERY OTHER SECTION AND SUBSECTION OF CHAPTER 66. TAXATION SHALL REMAIN IN FULL FORCE AND EFFECT AS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED; PROVIDING A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] ORDINANCE 12, 2022, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 66 TAXATION AT ARTICLE SIX ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION BY REPEALING SECTION 66 310 SUNSET PROVISION IN RE ADOPTING SAME AS REVISED TO RENEW THE CITY COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY TO GRANT PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS TO CERTAIN QUALIFIED BUSINESSES PURSUANT TO STATE LAW AND THE CITY, PROVIDING THAT EACH AND EVERY OF THE SECTION AND SUBSECTION OF CHAPTER 66 TAXATION SHALL REMAIN IN FULL FORCE IN EFFECT AS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED, PROVIDING A CONFLICT CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE PURPOSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, PATTI. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE HEARING. AND TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR OUR ATTORNEY, MAX LOHMAN, TO EXPLAIN. THIS IS VERY, VERY SIMPLE. IF YOU RECALL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THE VOTERS WE HAD PUT A REFERENDUM QUESTION BEFORE THE VOTERS TO ASK THEM IF THEY WANTED TO EXTEND OR REAUTHORIZE THE TOWN, THE CITY COUNCILS AUTHORITY TO OFFER THESE TAX EXEMPTIONS. THIS HAS TO BE DONE BY REFERENDUM. AND THEY DID. THEY VOTED IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND SO THIS YOU CAN SEE IN SECTION 66, 310, WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS IT JUST SIMPLY STRIKES OUT THE PREVIOUS EXPIRATION DATE, WHICH WAS NOVEMBER SIX, 2022, AND CHANGES IT TO AUGUST 23RD, 2032. YOU PROBABLY RECALL ALSO THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY JUDICIOUS AND EXTREMELY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE ISSUANCE OR THE APPROVAL, IF YOU WILL, RATHER OF TAX EXEMPTIONS. WE'VE ONLY USED IT ONCE IN A DECADE, BUT IT WAS VERY USEFUL. IT WAS USED FOR CARRIER TO HELP DRAW THEM HERE AND HAVE THEIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS HERE. AND YOU'VE SEEN THE MAGNIFICENT BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF DONALD ROSS ROAD AND 95 THAT'S IN THE CITY IN AVENIR OR OUR ALTON, RATHER. AND THAT WAS LARGELY ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT WAS BROUGHT HERE. AND ONE OF THE MOTIVATING FACTORS FOR THEM WAS WERE THOSE TAX EXEMPTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, MAX. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAX. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS, SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING. MAY I PLEASE GET A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ALL RIGHT. CAN I. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YES, PLEASE. I'D LIKE TO STRIKE ONE LINE IN THERE. BUT THE. WHEREAS THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CLIMATE HAS RESULTED IN HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, THAT IMPACTS THE QUALITY OF THE LIFE OF THE CITIZENS AND SUSTAINABILITY OF LOCAL BUSINESSES. AND THE REASON I WANT TO DO THAT IS I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A POSSIBLE REQUIREMENT IN FUTURE IF IF FUTURE COUNCILS IN THE CITY IN THE FUTURE CHOOSES TO RE-UP ON THIS REQUEST OF THE RESIDENTS TO APPROVE THE COUNCIL, TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE GOES UP AND DOWN ALL THE TIME. BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT. THE POINT IS THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AND TRYING TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO COME. THAT WAS WRITTEN TEN YEARS AGO. UNEMPLOYMENT, WHATEVER IT IS TODAY, IS KIND OF IRRELEVANT TO ME. I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A CONDITION OF PRE-APPROVAL FOR FUTURE NOTED. IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO NOTE THAT FOR THE TEN YEAR REFERENCE FOR THE SECOND READING, YOU'RE SAYING IF WE TAKE UP FOR SECOND READING, THAT WOULD BE MY, MY, MY REMARKS. I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT. THAT'S FINE. I'M GOOD AT THAT, TOO. IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE TO REMOVE IT FOR SECOND READING, WE CAN DO THAT. YES, PLEASE. I THINK SO. CARL, DOES IT CHANGE THE. NO, I DON'T THINK SO. NO, NO, IT'S JUST A STATEMENT. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MARK. THANK YOU, MAX. SO, CAN I GET A MOTION IN A SECOND TO. I ALREADY DO. OKAY, SO I'LL. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. I'LL NEED TO AMEND THE MOTION BECAUSE YOU'VE STRICKEN THAT. NO, I'LL TAKE THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL BY CONSENSUS. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAX. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING ALONG, WE HAVE ORDINANCE 13. [VIII.d. ORDINANCE 13, 2022 – (1ST READING) CITY MANAGER PURCHASING AUTHORITY. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 2. ADMINISTRATION BY REPEALING SECTION 2-294. – BIDDING THRESHOLD., AND READOPTING SAME, AS REVISED, IN ORDER TO AMEND CERTAIN PURCHASING LIMITS AND REMOVE CERTAIN REFERENCE TO STATE LAW; PROVIDING THAT THE REMAINDER OF CHAPTER 2. ADMINISTRATION SHALL REMAIN IN FULL FORCE AND EFFECT AS PREVIOUSLY ENACTED; PROVIDING A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] PATTY, IF YOU COULD PLEASE READ THE TITLE. ORDINANCE 13, 2022, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION BY REPEALING SECTION TWO, DASH 294 [02:05:09] BIDDING THRESHOLD AND RE ADOPTING SAME AS REVISED IN ORDER TO AMEND CERTAIN PURCHASING LIMITS AND REMOVE CERTAIN REFERENCES TO STATE LAW, PROVIDING THAT THE REMAINDER OF CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION SHALL REMAIN IN FULL FORCE IN EFFECT AS PREVIOUSLY ENACTED, PROVIDING A CONFLICT CLAUSE OF SEVERABILITY, CLAUSE AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFIED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR THE PURPOSES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'D LIKE TO CALL ON MAX LEMON AGAIN, PLEASE. BASICALLY, WHAT THIS IS DOING IS IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CHARTER, OUR CHARTER SPECIFIES THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS AS IT DOES. IT ALSO SAYS THE MAYOR. OUR CODE DOES NOT. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT CODIFIES THE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER. AND WE RIGHT NOW IN THE IN THE CODE, IT SAYS 50,000, BUT IT ALSO REFERS TO CHAPTER 287, WHICH IS RELEVANT TO THE CC AND A CONSULTANT'S COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION ACT AND TALKS ABOUT LEVEL THREE, WHICH IS 65,000. AND THEY PUT THAT IN THERE SO THAT THE THE BIDDING THRESHOLD WOULD CHANGE WITH THE TIMES. WELL, THE STATE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T REALLY UPDATE THAT NUMBER AS MUCH AS THEY SHOULD, BUT IT'S 65,000. WE HAVE TO BID THINGS OUT IF THERE ARE MORE THAN 65,000 PER HOUR CODE AND UNLESS THERE'S SOME KIND OF REASONABLE EXEMPTION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR IN OUR PURCHASING POLICIES, THIS ORDINANCE PROVIDES CONSISTENCY WITH OUR PURCHASING POLICIES AS WELL AS CHANGES THAT AUTHORITY. WE STILL BID THEM OUT IF THEY'RE 65,000. WE HAVE OPERATED UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT BECAUSE IT SAID IF IT WAS OVER 65,000, THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE BID OUT HAD TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THAT PURCHASES UNDER 65,000 COULD THEN BE SIGNED FOR BY THE CITY MANAGER. WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED AND QUESTIONED BY A COUPLE OF STATE AGENCIES. ONE OF THEM WAS DEO, BECAUSE OUR OUR CURRENTLY OUR CODE DOESN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE A PARTICULAR CONTRACT. AND IF YOU RECALL, WE'VE HAD INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WHERE WE HAVE WE HAVE PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWED THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS SO LONG AS WE WEREN'T EXPENDING ANY MONEY. AND SO PEOPLE WERE USING THAT. OUTSIDE AGENCIES WERE PUSHING THAT BACK AT US AND SAYING, WELL, CAN THE CITY MANAGER SIGN THE CONTRACT? SO WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS PRUDENT TO BRING FORTH AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CODIFY THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN THE CONTRACTS AS WELL AS CODIFY AND CHANGE THE PURCHASING AUTHORITY. AND KUMEROW CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE PURCHASING AUTHORITY, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE IT FROM 65000 TO 0.5% OF THE APPROVED BUDGET. THAT COMES OUT TO APPROXIMATELY $1,000,000. AND THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE WE'VE ENCOUNTERED INCREASED COSTS OVER TIME AND SOMETIMES OUR DELAYS HAVE COST US MONEY. I, I HAD INACCURATELY MADE REFERENCE IN YOUR AGENDA REVIEWS TO THE WINTER OF 19. IT WAS ACTUALLY THE WINTER OF 20. GOING INTO 21 IS WHEN THE MASSIVE INCREASES IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS STARTED HAPPENING AROUND DECEMBER OF 2020 AND THEN LEADING INTO FEBRUARY IN MARCH OF 2021. THE CONSTRUCTION, THE COST OF STRUCTURAL STEEL AND CONCRETE WAS GOING UP WEEKLY. WE HAVE FREQUENTLY HAD TO EXECUTE LETTERS OF INTENT TO SECURE PURCHASING POSITIONS, AND COMPANIES HAVE RELUCTANTLY ACCEPTED THAT FROM US. AND WHAT IT'S DONE IS IT'S PUT THE STAFF IN THE POSITION TO MAKE PROMISES THAT WE COULDN'T NECESSARILY KEEP THAT WERE DEPENDENT UPON WHETHER OR NOT YOU GUYS APPROVED IT. ACTUALLY, TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAD A COUPLE OF AMBULANCES THAT HAD A LETTER OF INTENT TO HOLD THE PRICE UNTIL WE COULD GET TO THE POINT THAT YOU COULD APPROVE IT HERE AND COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU IN MORE DETAIL. BUT EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD PURCHASING AND CONTRACTS DIRECTOR ALMOST WAS ABOUT TO SIT DOWN BECAUSE MAX WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. BUT ALL RIGHT, SO HE HE'S ADDRESSED ALREADY THE WHY AND THE WHEREFORE OF ALL OF THIS. IT ADDRESSES ISSUES WITH SUPPLY CHAIN AND LOGISTICS WE SAW FROM COVID. IT MITIGATES. SO I WAS EXPOSURE TO PRICE INCREASES DUE TO THOSE SAME KIND OF DISRUPTIONS. IT ADDRESSES ISSUES CAUSED BY TIME DELAYS BECAUSE YOU ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH. SO THAT CREATES A PROBLEM FOR US THAT I GET CALLS REGULARLY FROM VENDORS WHO SAY, WHEN IS THIS GOING ON THE AGENDA? I SAID, THEY MEET ONCE A MONTH, SO YOU HAVE TO WAIT, RIGHT? SO PROJECTS HAVE TO WAIT BECAUSE WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE HAVE AN EXECUTED CONTRACT. IT SAVES THE TAXPAYERS MONEY AND IMPROVES THE EFFICIENCY OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. IT EXPEDITES THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TO GET CONTRACTS APPROVED. SO IT SAVES TIME. AND OF COURSE IT DOES. THE OTHER THING WAS TO CLARIFY THE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY MANAGER FOR CERTAIN GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. WE HAVE HAVE HAD GRANTS WHERE THE WHERE THE AGENCY THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. [02:10:06] SEND ME A COPY OF YOUR YOUR ORDINANCES. YES. YOUR AUTHORITY TO SIGN THIS AND WHEN THEY GET IT. IT DOESN'T REALLY SAYS THAT. IT INFERS THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT. SO CAN YOU SEND ME A COPY OF A CONTRACT HE HAS SIGNED THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND I DO THAT AND THEY TAKE THAT. SO THIS IS AND THAT'S JUST A BAND-AID. THIS WOULD FIX THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF MANDATING IT. ARE THERE CONCERNS? YES, THERE ARE CONCERNS. AND A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE AGENDA REVIEW. THERE'S RESISTANCE TO CHANGE. THAT IS NORMAL. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A HUMAN EMOTION TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH CERTAIN THINGS. AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE PUT YOU OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU SAY, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. BUT. WHAT I ALWAYS THINK WHEN IT COMES TO CHANGE, BECAUSE CHANGE IS THE ONLY CONSTANT IN THE UNIVERSE IS THAT. IF WE DIDN'T MAKE CHANGES. WE'D STILL BE LIVING IN CAVES WITH STABLE, LIVING IN CAVES THAT WOULD NOT HAVE MOVED FORWARD AND WOULD NOT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CALL OUR CITY A PROGRESSIVE CITY STABLE, LIVING IN CAVES. THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS. IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE IN THE PALM BEACH POST. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE SEND ALL OUR COMPETITIVE SOLICITATIONS, EMAIL THEM TO THE ALMOST 1000 VENDORS ON OUR VENDORS LIST. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE ALSO USE OUR E-PROCUREMENT PORTAL, MARCEL, TO ADVERTISE THEM TO ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. I'VE GOTTEN CALLS FROM PEOPLE IN INDIA WHO HAVE SEEN OUR SOLICITATIONS AND SAY, HEY, CAN I, CAN I CAN I BID ON THIS? AND I SAID, SURE, WHY NOT? SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THAT. AND IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY PROCESS, WE I OFFER THAT WE COULD PROVIDE YOU WITH COURT REPORTS TO SAY THESE ARE THE CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN EXECUTED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS, AND I WILL REPRESENT THAT TO YOU. PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CLICK ON THE LINK AND SEE EVERYTHING ON OUR WEBSITE. NOW WE HAVE A LISTING OF OUR CITY CONTRACTS THAT I THAT I UPDATE EVERY SINGLE MONTH. IT LISTS WHEN THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED, WHO IT WAS AWARDED TO, FOR HOW MUCH. WHEN DOES IT EXPIRE? DOES IT HAVE ANY OPTIONS TO RENEW OR DOES IT ENDS AT THAT DATE? ALL OF THAT IS THERE. SO IT DOESN'T THERE'S NO ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY. ACCOUNTABILITY DOESN'T CHANGE THAT. WE'RE STILL ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU, RIGHT? THE OFFICE OF CITY MANAGER IS STILL ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU. WE STILL HAVE TO SEND ALL OUR DOCUMENTS. WHEN WE DO OUR SOLICITATIONS, WE SEND ALL THE DOCUMENTS. COPIES. NOT BECAUSE WE'RE ASKED. NOT EVEN BECAUSE WE ARE BY LAW, REQUIRED TO. BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND TRANSPARENT. WE SEND THEM TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S OFFICE. EVERY TIME THAT WE POST AN AWARD RECOMMENDATION OR WE HAVE AN ADDENDUM, SENATOR PATTY, WE SEND IT TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S OFFICE EVERY SINGLE TIME SO NOBODY CAN SAY, HEY, WE DIDN'T KNOW YOU CHANGE THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT. WE STILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE PROCUREMENT LAWS OF THE STATE. WE STILL HAVE TO DO THAT. IT CHANGES NOTHING. IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING IN OUR PURCHASING POLICY EXCEPT THE THRESHOLD AT WHICH THE CITY MANAGER CAN EXECUTE CONTRACTS. THAT'S ALL IT DOES. WE STILL WILL HAVE AN ANNUAL AUDIT. THE AUDITORS COME TO ME EVERY YEAR AND THEY PULL OUR CONTRACTS. THEY LOOK AT IT, THEY ASK QUESTIONS. SO THEY STILL DO THAT. AND WE STILL HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS QUESTIONS. WE STILL HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE ALWAYS WE ALL WORK FOR CITY RESIDENTS. NOTHING IS THAT CHANGES. WE'RE STILL ACCOUNTABLE. THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS AND THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR GOVERNMENT PURCHASING AND THE NATIONAL PROCUREMENT INSTITUTE ARE THE PREEMINENT PUBLIC PROCUREMENT MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS ADVOCATED THAT IF THE BUDGET IS APPROVED BY THE GOVERNING BODY AND IN THIS CASE, WHAT THEY MEAN IS A LINE ITEM BUDGET. IF YOU HAVE A LINE ITEM BUDGET AND YOU AND YOU LIST ALL THE PROJECTS. AND THE CITY COUNCIL. THE GOVERNING BODY APPROVES. THESE PROJECTS APPROVE THE BUDGET. THERE IS NO NEED FOR THOSE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AGAIN TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT. AFTER YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION PROCESS, THERE'S NO NEED TO COME BACK AND THAT'S BEEN THEIR BEST PRACTICE ADVOCATES. IN FACT, WHEN I DO, I MEAN, I KNOW YOU ALL LIKE TO COME HERE SOMETIMES WHEN I GET WHEN WE GET AWARDS FOR THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND SAY, HEY, LOOK AT ALL THIS OR NOT, BUT THERE ARE CRITERIA FOR ALL OF THAT AND THOSE CRITERIA. ONE OF THOSE CRITERIAS IS WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE YOUR CONTRACT? YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO IT. IF YOU DO A LINE ITEM BUDGETING, DO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND HAVE TO ANSWER YES. AND THAT COST US TEN POINTS. [02:15:03] EVERY SINGLE YEAR IT COSTS US TEN POINTS OUT OF A POTENTIAL 200 POINTS. IT COSTS US TEN POINTS BECAUSE IT IS NOT A BEST PRACTICE WITH LINE ITEM BUDGETING, WHERE YOU LIST ALL THE PROJECTS TO COME BACK TO THE GOVERNING BODY AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU KNOW, APPROVE WHAT YOU ALREADY APPROVED OR SUSPEND? THAT MAKES NO SENSE, RIGHT? AMERICANS HAVE A FAMOUS SAYING FROM FAMOUS STATEMENT BY NEIL ARMSTRONG, HE SAID. A SMALL STEP FOR MAN, GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND. THE GIANT LEAP WOULD BE THAT NOTHING COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, RIGHT? IF IT'S APPROVED IN LINE AT A BUDGET, IF YOU APPROVE IT, WHICH IS YOUR JOB, YOU LOOK AND SAY, YES, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION, THEN THERE'S NO NEED TO. ARE WE GOING TO SPEND 5 MILLION TO BUILD IT FASTER? THERE'S NOBODY TO COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, HOW ARE THE CONTRACT NOW FOR $5 MILLION? THAT MAKES NO SENSE, RIGHT? SO THAT IS WHAT WE CALL THE GIANT LEAP THAT WOULD MAKE US REALLY PROGRESSIVE. BUT IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS AND YOU WANT TO, LET'S TAKE A TINY STEP. THE POINT 5% IS A TINY STEP. IT'S AN INCREDIBLY TINY STEP. $65,000 THAT WE ALL AGREED IS RIDICULOUS. IT'S LUDICROUS. SO THE 0.5% OR MORE IS. THE SMALL STEP FOR MAN. THE SMALL STEP FOR THE CITY. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE. I CAN ANSWER THEM. CAMERA. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST PASSIONATE PRESENTATIONS YOU'VE EVER GIVEN US. NEVER HEARD YOU TALK SO MUCH. VERY, VERY MEMORABLE. CAN YOU SELL MY CAR? NO, THANK YOU, THOUGH. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING FROM THE HEART. AND WITH SO MUCH PROFESSIONAL ACUMEN, IT IS NOTED AND APPRECIATED. LET'S SEE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS. SO DO WE WANT TO SPEAK NOW OR SHOULD I GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT AND WE'LL TALK AFTER. LET'S TALK. ALL RIGHT, KARL, YOU'RE UP. OH, DO YOU NEED A MOTION IN SECOND? WE CAN TALK FIRST AND THEN WE CAN PASS AFTER. IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A MOTION, THEN YOU GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, WE'LL DO THAT PORTION AND THEN TAKE YOUR MOTION. THANK YOU, MEGAN. A MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON ORDINANCE 13 2022 SECOND. MICHEL, SECONDS. ALL RIGHTY. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING, AND NOW LET'S BRING IT BACK FOR SOME DISCUSSION. CARL SO THE SMALL STEP IS 0.5. WHAT'S THE BIG STEP? NOTHING COMES BACK TO YOU IF IT'S APPROVED. NO, NO, NO, NO POINT. NO, I GET ALL THAT. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT MORE THAN 0.5 IS MY QUESTION. NOTHING TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL. IF IT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET AND YOU APPROVE THE PROJECT. RIGHT. AND 0.5 COVERS THAT. NO. THAT'S THE GIANT LEAP. POINT FIVE IS JUST A SMALL STEP. SO IF YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH NOTHING, IF YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE, SAY NO. WE WANT TO SEE CERTAIN THINGS. AND AGAIN, THE CITY MANAGER WILL STILL HAVE THE DISCRETION FOR POLITICAL SENSITIVE PROJECTS TO BRING THEM BACK TO YOU. THE POINT 5% IS. OKAY. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WALK TEN MILES WITH YOU, WALK A MILE WITH ME. MAYBE YOU'RE MISUNDERSTANDING. SO 0.5% IS A MILLION OF OUR 2 MILLION OR 200 MILLION. DO YOU WANT POINTS 7% OR IS I WANT MY YOU WANT MY PERSONAL OPINION ON THIS? NOTHING SHOULD COME BACK TO YOU. OKAY. I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH IT. I MEAN, WE GOT TO PUT BIG, BIG BOY PANTS ON AND LET THE LET THE CITY DO THEIR BUSINESS WITH. AND IF IT IF IT HELPS YOU STREAMLINE AND BE MORE EFFICIENT AS A CITY, I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL. SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND IF IT IF IT'S LESS ON THE COUNCIL'S AGENDA, THAT'S GOOD. AND IF YOU CAN APPROVE STUFF AND KEEP THINGS MOVING, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AT ALL. I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS A MILLION ENOUGH? ALL RIGHT. RACHELLE IS NOT FOR ME. NOT FOR YOU. OKAY, SO ORDINANCE 13, AS WE'VE WE'VE CALLED THE MOTION. AND SECOND, IT IS ASKING FOR 0.5% AND 1 MILLION TO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS. IN LANGUAGE THAT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND. THIS IS NOT A BLANK CHECK BOOK FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO WRITE CHECKS OUT OF THE APPROVED TERRITORY OF THE APPROVED BUDGET. YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THE OTHER PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO AND AT AGENDA REVIEW, IT WAS EXPLAINED HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR HANDS AND EYES ON THIS BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY SIGNS THE CHECK OR THAT THE THE FORM. I LIKE THE IDEA OF COMING BACK TO COUNCIL, THOUGH, QUARTERLY OR SENDING US AN OFFICIAL LETTER QUARTERLY THAT HAS WHAT WAS APPROVED. RIGHT. JUST SO WE WE KNOW AND CAN CAN HAVE IT THERE FOR QUESTION PURPOSES. [02:20:01] I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT OTHERWISE, I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE AHEAD. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SLOW THINGS DOWN AND COME BACK TO US FOR STUFF WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. THANK YOU. ROCHELLE. MARCY. YEAH, I'M HOP SKIPPING. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. KUMARA. THAT WAS A VERY GOOD SPEECH. YOU DID? I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'M SO HAPPY YOU'RE ON OUR TEAM. 100% HAPPY THAT YOU'RE ON OUR TEAM. YOU WON A MILLION AWARDS, AND WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF THAT AND PROUD OF YOU AND WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED. SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I ALSO 100% AGREE THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE BIDDING THRESHOLD CAP FROM 65,000. I THINK IT'S ANTIQUATED. I THINK IT'S NOT ENOUGH. I ALSO AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE EMERGENCIES AND WE HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY DEAL WITH PROCUREMENTS DURING THAT TIME AND DEFINITELY DURING THOSE TIMES. WE SHOULD HAVE A HIGHER CAP AS WELL. HOWEVER, I STRONGLY FEEL THAT $1.1 MILLION OR $1 MILLION IS TOO MUCH. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, HAVING A HIGH COST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, EVEN IF IT'S ON CONSENT. I FEEL THAT IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT PART OF THE THEY'RE NOT ON THE VENDORS LIST. THEY DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO VENDORS OR THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. BUT THEY DO SEE WHEN ITEMS ARE ON THE AGENDA, THEY DO SEE THAT IT'S ON CONSENT AND THEY PAY ATTENTION TO SOME SOME OF THEM DO, SOME OF THEM DON'T. BUT THAT'S OUR JOB. IT'S OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY, IN MY OPINION, TO KNOW WHAT'S BEING PURCHASED, WHEN IT'S BEING PURCHASED AND FOR HOW MUCH IT'S BEING PURCHASED. AND TO ME, THAT'S JUST A BIG TRANSPARENCY AND YOU CAN'T PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THAT. THE PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA IS THE BEST WAY TO KEEP THAT TRANSPARENCY. IN MY OPINION. IT GIVES PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE MEETING IF THEY AGREE OR DON'T AGREE, OR IF THEY WANT TO COMMENT OR AT LEAST TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. WE'VE HAD PROCUREMENTS APPEALED. I KNOW IN THE PAST IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN, BUT KEEPING THE HIGHER PRICED ITEMS IN PUBLIC PROCESS, IN MY OPINION, IS IMPORTANT. I'D BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE APPROVING THE ORDINANCE WITH A CLEAR DOLLAR AMOUNT, CAP OR THRESHOLD BY CHANGING IT FROM THE 65 TO 325000, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE LEVEL FIVE THRESHOLD OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES TO 87 THAT WOULD COVER THE SMALLER ITEMS, NOT ACTUALLY NOT JUST SMALL ITEMS, BUT A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION ITEMS THAT ARE BEING DONE AND A LOT OF THE OTHER ITEMS AND ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE BEING PROCURED DURING OUR CONSTRUCTION PROCESSES FOR ALL OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AND I FEEL THAT WE CAN REVISIT THAT CAP WITH INFLATION IN A TIMELY MANNER, WHETHER IT BE EVERY YEAR, EVERY OTHER YEAR, WE COULD DO THAT. BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON THE MATTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARK. THANKS FOR THAT COMMENT. MARCI, I DIDN'T REALIZE FLORIDA STATUTES HAD A LIMIT LEVEL FIVE FOR 325. NO, IT'S NOT A LIMIT. IT'S NOT A LIMIT. IT'S JUST THEY HAVE THRESHOLDS. THEY HAVE THRESHOLDS. SO IT'S THE HIGHEST THRESHOLD, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. ONE OF THE HIGHEST THRESHOLD. SO IF I MAY, WHAT WHAT SHE'S REFERRING TO IS CNA. IT'S ANOTHER COMPETITIVE CONSULTANT COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION ACT, AND IT'S ABOUT HOW YOUR IT HAS TO DO SPECIFICALLY WITH PROCURING GOODS AND SERVICES THROUGH CERTAIN PROFESSIONALS LIKE ENGINEERS, LANDSCAPE ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT DOESN'T APPLY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO OUR NORMAL PROCUREMENT. AND UNLESS IT INVOLVES SECURING THOSE SERVICES. SO TO BE CLEAR, THE FLORIDA STATUTES ONLY CONTROL OUR PURCHASING PROCESS WHEN IT RELATES TO THE THE ACQUISITION AND USE OF THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES FROM AN ENGINEER, AN ARCHITECT, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. THERE'S A FEW OTHER PROFESSIONALS LISTED THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE THEM BID AGAINST THEMSELVES. SO THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC MANNER AND METHOD IN WHICH YOU HAVE TO PROCURE THOSE SERVICES. AND IT ALSO TO 87 ADDRESSES, DESIGN, BUILD PROJECTS AND DESIGN BID BUILD, AND THEN 255 CHAPTER 55 SPECIFICALLY CONTROLS AND PREEMPTS THE FIELD AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. ALL OTHER PROCUREMENTS FOR A CITY ARE CONTROLLED PURELY BY THE CITY'S PURCHASING POLICIES. WE ARE NOT REQUIRED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM UNDER THE LAW TO BID ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF CHAPTER 25 AND TO 87 OTHER THAN AUDITORS. SO FOR THAT SPECIFIC SERVICE. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO WHAT YOU'VE DONE, WHAT MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DONE AS A MATTER OF BEST PRACTICE IS THEY HAVE PROCUREMENT POLICIES THAT REQUIRE THEM TO COMPETITIVELY SOLICIT CERTAIN PRODUCTS BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO GET THE BEST PRICE AND YOU'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK WHEN YOU'RE DOING REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. [02:25:01] SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO LABOR UNDER THE ILLUSION WE WERE LIMITED BY THAT NUMBER SOME WAY IT'S ONLY RELATED TO CNA. AND JUST AS ANOTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION AND I'LL SHUT UP. MARCI, YOU. YOU HAD MADE REFERENCE TO. WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE BID THRESHOLD. WE'RE NOT INCREASING. IT'S ONLY THE PURCHASING THRESHOLD. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THAT REFERENCE. AND YOU'RE 100% RIGHT ABOUT THAT IN 287 WAS MENTIONED IN THE ORDINANCE AS WELL. YEAH. OKAY. SO EVEN THOUGH WE WON'T FALL INTO THOSE CATEGORIES OR THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THAT'S STILL KIND OF A ROUGH NUMBER THAT'S OUT THERE FOR THOSE TYPES OF PURCHASES. SO WHAT ARE THE CITIES OR COUNTIES OR REGIONS OR MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA ARE FOLLOWING THE SAME TYPE OF PROTOCOL. WE A COUPLE YEARS AGO ON THE IGP LISTSERV, THEY HAD A THEY DID A POLL OF ALL THE CITIES TO SAY AND THIS IS A POLL NOT JUST OF FLORIDA, BUT THE WHOLE U.S.. LET'S DO A POPULATION. AND IF YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. AND IT WAS VERY DISHEARTENING TO SEE PEOPLE, PLACES LIKE LEESBURG OR OCOEE AND AND SOME OF THE TRANSIT AREAS SAYING, OH, WE DON'T WITH POPULATIONS LESS THAN PALM BEACH GARDENS SAYING NO, IF WE DO A LINE ITEM BUDGETING, IF IT'S APPROVED. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK. THE ONLY TIME WE GO BACK IS IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT IS NOT IN THE BUDGET OR IT'S POLITICALLY SENSITIVE. AND THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER IN THIS CASE, THE CITY MANAGER, THINKS IT'S WORTH GOING BACK TO COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS. OKAY, SO WHAT'S A TYPICAL PERCENTAGE OR WHAT'S A TYPICAL NUMBER FOR THOSE THAT DO REQUIRE COUNCIL OVERSIGHT OR FINAL APPROVAL? SOME HAVE ZERO. DOWN FIVE ZERO. SOME HAVE. 75,000. IT VARIES OF VARIOUS RANGES, REALLY. WHEN I WAS IN MIAMI-DADE, WE WERE DOING THE THE DIRECTOR HAD $1,000,000. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING OUT OF 5 MILLION, AND THE COUNTY MANAGER HAD $2 MILLION. IT BEGS THE QUESTION FOR ME THAT I ASKED THE COUNTY MANAGER, SO YOU CAN YOU CAN TRUST THE DIRECTOR TO SIGN $1,000,000 CONTRACT, NOT A $2 MILLION CONTRACT. HOW YOU COME UP WITH THAT GAP? THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. AND BUT THEY HAVE THAT AND THEY HAVE OVER THE YEARS RAISED IT. IT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE FOR ME IT'S ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND IT'S ALL ABOUT MAKING SURE WHEN YOU SEE A CHANGE FROM $65000 TO $1000000, THAT JUST RAISES A RED FLAG. AND I KNOW WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, SO I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH YOU COMING THROUGH IT. MY OTHER PROBLEM, OF COURSE, IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CHARGED WITH APPROVING A BUDGET. IT'S A LINE ITEM BUDGET. I LIKE TO CONSIDER MYSELF A BUDGET PERSON. AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU ALL THE LINE ITEMS THAT WE POSSIBLY APPROVED IN THE YEAR BECAUSE THERE'S 1000 OF THEM THAT THAT ARE GOING THROUGH. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR FOR US TO SAY, WELL, IT'S ALL THERE. YOU'VE APPROVED THE LINE ITEM BUDGET AND IT'S OPEN TO THE RESIDENTS TO SEE. THAT'S THAT'S A BIG QUESTION. IT'S A BIG QUESTION MARK. AND EVEN NEVER MIND FOR THE GENERAL RESIDENT OUT THERE, BUT FOR US WHO ARE REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS. SO THAT ALSO MAKES IT UNCOMFORTABLE TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU APPROVE THE LINE ITEM BUDGET AND THERE YOU GO. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AND DO IT. AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS SAYING ABOUT THIS. THE OTHER CONCERN IS NOT JUST MY CONCERN ABOUT WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT HOW DOES THIS POTENTIALLY PUT THE CITY MANAGER TODAY AND THEN IN THE FUTURE IN A SPOT WHERE THEY ARE SUDDENLY LOOKED UPON AS HAVING TOO MUCH AUTHORITY? AND NOW THAT PUTS THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO DEFEND THAT TYPE OF POLICY. SO I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT THIS JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES WHERE DOES THE RESIDENT COME AND LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WAIT A SECOND, THAT'S THAT'S BEYOND THE NORM. AND THAT PUTS THE CITY IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO DEFEND SOME OF THE PURCHASING POLICIES THAT WE'VE ENACTED. SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM? ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. SO, YOU KNOW, I READ IT LAST WEEK. I READ OVER THE WEEKEND, I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. WE HAD TO TALK ABOUT IT YESTERDAY. I WAS CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE WAS GOING TO SAY. AND THIS IS FIRST READING, SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. I HAVE MORE TIME TO DIGEST IT, BUT THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THEM WITH EVERYBODY. AND IF I MAY REMEMBER, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SUGGESTION FOR A MODIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE TO TO TO SATISFY ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE. RACHELLE. NOW, TO WHAT MARK SAID. I HAD ACTUALLY HAD THE QUESTION BEFORE HE HE BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF LINES IN THE BUDGET. IS THERE ANY WAY TO HIGHLIGHT IN THE BUDGET THE LINE ITEMS THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THIS PURVIEW? [02:30:07] SO WHEN WE ARE DOING THE BUDGET, WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ON HIS OWN. THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. THAT A MAJOR THING LIKE COLOR CODED OR HIGHLIGHT THEM? WELL, I THINK THERE'S SO MANY LINE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET. AS WE MENTIONED, THERE ARE ABOUT 1000 LINE ITEMS. IT WOULD BE PRACTICALLY IMPRACTICAL TO HIGHLIGHT. I MEAN, YOU'D HAVE TO HIGHLIGHT EVERY SINGLE ACCOUNT, BASICALLY BECAUSE ANY PURCHASE COULD BE COMING OUT OF ANY TYPE OF REPAIR, MAINTENANCE OR CONTRACTUAL SERVICE OR OR CIP PROJECTS. SO IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO. NOW THE COMMENT ABOUT EVERY QUARTER SUBMITTING THE THE THE PURCHASES THAT WERE THAT FELL INTO THIS THIS PURVIEW IS ONE STEP IN A GOOD DIRECTION. BUT BY THAT TIME IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED OR SIGNED OFF. I COULD DO THAT BEFORE, TOO. YOU CAN DO IT IN ADVANCE OF WE COULD PUT A REPORT ONLINE. WE COULD GIVE YOU A REPORT EVERY. MONTHS, ONCE A MONTH, TELLING YOU THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON AND THIS IS THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THOSE PROJECTS. AND IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT ONLINE, BECAUSE NOTHING WE DO HERE IS CLASSIFIED, RIGHT? RIGHT. IT'S OPEN. YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT IT ONLINE. ANYBODY CAN GO LOOK AT IT. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND THEY CAN SEE IT AND WE CAN SEE IT SO THAT THERE'S NEVER A QUESTION THAT SOMEBODY IS DOING SOMETHING THAT MAY FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT INTEREST OF THE CITY. SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN AND I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THAT CONSIDERATION. IF YOU SAY, HEY, QUARTER Q2 OF 20, 22 OR 2023 OR 2024, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PURCHASING HERE. HERE IT IS. SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNCIL, PUT IT ON CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S THERE, AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE IT. AND THEN OFF GOES TO TO TO ALLOW FOR THAT EXPEDITED TIMELINE. I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL BETTER. ALL RIGHT. REAL QUICK. I HAD ROCHELLE AND THEN CARL AND THEN MARCY. SO GO AHEAD. RIGHT. YOU HAD A QUESTION. I JUST SAID THAT WAS AN INTERESTING SOLUTION. OKAY, SO THEN CARL, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. SO PUT A PIN IN THAT. SO CARL HAD WAS WAITING. OKAY. I KIND OF GET WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING FROM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD BE HYPERSENSITIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE APPROVING A 5000 CONTRACT FOR SOMEONE TO MOW THE GRASS. I MEAN, IT'S 5% OF THE APPROVED BUDGET POINT FIVE. SORRY. SO TO SIMPLIFY THINGS. WHEN DID SO? WHEN DID THE INITIAL 65,000 START? WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? I CAME HERE IN 2012. THAT CARRIED TO 2012. I THINK I STARTED HERE THE AND IT WAS LIKE TWO YEARS AFTER THAT OR SO THEY CHANGED IT. RIGHT. IT WAS 50,000 IN THE CODE PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL AND IT HAD THE REFERENCE IN THE TWO EIGHTIES IN CHAPTER 287 TO THE CANA, SO THAT TO THE CATEGORY THREE PURCHASING THRESHOLD UNDER CANA, SO THAT OSTENSIBLY IT WOULD BE INCREASED ON A REGULAR BASIS. BUT AGAIN, THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE, SOMETIMES THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY DON'T MOVE ON THAT MUCH. I MEAN, KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK GRAND LARCENY IS STILL 300 BUCKS. THAT'S A FELONY. I MEAN, REALLY $301. AND IT'S A FELONY THAT'S INSANELY LOW. BUT IT'S SO THEY DON'T REALLY CHANGE THESE NUMBERS AS FREQUENTLY AS ONE MIGHT THINK THEY SHOULD. YOU KNOW, SO YOU LOOK AT THE CNA NUMBER HERE, IT WENT FROM 50000 TO 65000. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS. IT HAS CHANGED EXACTLY ONE TIME. SO WHAT I DON'T WANT THE COUNCIL TO DO IS GET INTO THE WEEDS OF WHAT $1 MILLION IS AND GET INTO THE EFFICIENCY OF HOW YOU CAN OR THE CITY MANAGER CAN APPROVE SOMETHING ALONG WITHIN THE MONTH INSTEAD OF IT HAVE COME BACK TO COUNCIL, WHICH NOT ONE OF THEM OR ONE OF US KNOWS WHAT LINE ITEM WAS APPROVED IN ANY GIVEN MONTH. AND WHAT'S IT GOING TO CHANGE? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. AND THE STATE WE ALL TRUST, RON, IF IT WAS ANOTHER CITY MANAGER AND I TALKED TO RON ABOUT THIS, I WAS THINKING I WAS THINKING ABOUT PUTTING IN SOME. OH, HOLD ON. I WAS. HOLD ON. I WAS ASKING, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN PUT, LIKE, SOME SAFETY NET IN THERE? WE CAN'T BY LAW, BUT IT'S UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER IT'S US OR WHETHER IT'S A NEXT CITY COUNCIL TO MONITOR THE CITY MANAGER. AND IF THE CITY MANAGER'S NOT DOING HIS JOB, YOU GET ANOTHER ONE. SO I WANT TO I DON'T WANT THE COUNCIL TO GET INVOLVED, MY FRIENDS TO GET INVOLVED IN YOU APPROVING OR THE CITY MANAGER APPROVING AIR CONDITIONED APPROVAL BECAUSE THEY WON'T EVEN NEVER KNOW IT WAS APPROVED ANYWAY. [02:35:02] AND YOUR GUYS ARE GOING TO MOVE IT ALONG QUICKLY. SO I DON'T THINK GIVING YOU 0.5% $1 MILLION AND THAT WILL THAT'S RELATIVE TO TO WHATEVER YEAR IT IS, WHETHER WE'RE IN A DROUGHT YEAR OR PROSPEROUS. I JUST THINK THAT. IT JUST HELPS THE CITY RUN MORE EFFICIENT. AND IF YOU GUYS GET INTO THE WEEDS OF IT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT LINE ITEM IS APPROVED ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY 0.5% OF THE APPROVED BUDGET THAT WE ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON. SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE. WE WANT THE CITY TO RUN EFFICIENTLY AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL. OKAY, MARK, WILL YOU REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID FOR MERCY, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. WHAT DID YOU ASK? YOU SAID YOU HAD A SUGGESTION, AND THEN ROCHELLE SAID, THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. WELL, SO WHEN WHEN WE WERE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION YESTERDAY DURING MY AGENDA REVIEW, CAMARA SAID, IF YOU WANT, WE CAN. ONE THING WE CAN DO IS JUST LIST THESE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PURCHASED OR HAVE BEEN PURCHASED AND AND JUST PUT THEM ON CONSENT. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE FACT, AND WE CAN DO A MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, WHATEVER. AND THEN BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION, THEN YOU'VE THEN THE MONEY'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT AND YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO IF ANYBODY EVER WANTED TO VET IT, YOU'VE ALREADY MISSED YOUR OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN WE'VE GOT A CONSENT PAGE THAT'S FOUR PAGES LONG. SO THAT'S A MATTER. SO. SO AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, IF YOU SAID, WELL, HEY, EVERY MONTH OR EVERY QUARTER, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT MONTH, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY. THEY'RE IN CONSENT. YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM IF YOU WANT. AND THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN ACTUAL APPROVAL AFTER THE FACT. SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO LIST THE THE PURCHASE ITEMS IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURE. AND THAT WAY THE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT'S COMING IN. THAT WAY IT'S ALREADY THAT WAY. YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IT. AND I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE THAT I THINK THAT'S A LOT FOR STAFF, BUT I FEEL LIKE JUST INCREASING THE IT WOULD BE HARD BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT FAR IN ADVANCE, BUT THEY MIGHT. I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR A STAFF TO DO. HOWEVER, WHAT IS DO I FEEL LIKE IF WE JUST RAISE THE CAP FROM 65 TO EVEN HALF A MILLION NOW, WE CAN ALWAYS READDRESS IT NEXT YEAR. THAT'S FINE TO JUST MARCH, BUT WE'RE NOT NORTH PALM OR WE'RE NOT JUNEAU. YOU KNOW, I WOULD GET 365 OR 400 FOR JUNO BEACH OR, YOU KNOW, JUPITER IN THE COLONY, BUT NOT NOT A CITY THAT'S GOT 65,000 RESIDENCES AND AND LOTS OF CITY LAND. AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I JUST THINK 1,000,001 HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER. IT'S ABOUT EXPENDITURES AND TRANSPARENCY IS WHAT I THE ISSUE AND WHAT COME ON WHAT WE COULD DO FOR THE REPORTS BECAUSE COONROD DOES THESE ANYWAY IS LIKE I SAID IT COULD BE EITHER MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY. QUARTERLY IS A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT FOR HIM, BUT HE'S SUPER EFFICIENT ANYWAY. BUT THE, THE I MEAN HE COULD, HE CAN PROVIDE IT BECAUSE WE POST ALL THESE ACQUISITIONS ON, ON OUR WEBSITE ANYWAY. BUT HE COULD PROVIDE A REPORT TO YOU QUARTERLY AND IT COULD EVEN BE PART OF YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE. IT COULD BE PART SENT TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY. IT'S ALREADY ON THE WEBSITE, BUT HE COULD PROVIDE THAT, PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP IN MIND TO WHEN IT COMES TO THE PURCHASING AUTHORITY, THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY TO PAY EMPLOYEES IS EXEMPT FROM THIS ORDINANCE AND IT IS EXEMPT FROM ANY PURCHASING AUTHORITY. AND I AND I THINK WE SPEND SOMEWHERE HOW MANY I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HE ACTUALLY AUTHORIZES THE EXPENDITURE OF EVERY TWO WEEKS. BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S WELL, IT'S WELL OVER SEVEN FIGURES TO PAY ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND HE HAS THE HE HAS THE SINGULAR AUTHORITY AS THE CITY MANAGER TO. WHATEVER HE'S GOT IN THE BUDGET AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES, HE COULD TERMINATE 50 EMPLOYEES AND DECIDE TO PAY SOMEBODY A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. AND THAT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN HIS DISCRETION. NOT THAT HE WOULD DO THAT, BUT IN TALKING ABOUT JUST IN MIND, THAT MONEY GETS EXPENDED EVERY TWO WEEKS. WITH HIS AUTHORIZATION, WE ALSO SPEND MULTI MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY ON UTILITIES AND THOSE UTILITY BILLS NEVER COME TO YOU. SAME THING FOR INSURANCE. IT'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND THOSE THINGS DON'T COME TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL. SO IT'S JUST A JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW STONES HERE. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE YOU AWARE. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. SO. I LOVE SETTING POLICY. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SETTING POLICY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NEXT YEAR, FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS. THAT SAID, WHATEVER WE SET COULD GO AWAY THE NEXT DAY WITH THE NEXT COUNCIL THAT COMES IN. MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE STAFF THAT YOU GUYS PRESENT STUFF TO US AND WE MIGHT NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT IT AND POOF, IT GOES AWAY. SO NONETHELESS, WHAT YOU SAID ACTUALLY STUCK WITH ME MORE THAN I REALIZED IT WOULD. AND OUR CONSENT ON CONSENT TONIGHT WE APPROVED. [02:40:05] AND BEAR WITH ME, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MY READING GLASSES. A PAYMENT OF OVER $2.1 MILLION FOR TWO AMBULANCES, THREE AMBULANCES THAT WE WON'T SEE FOR 30 MONTHS BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAIN ANYWAY. RIGHT. SO AND YOU MENTIONED VERY POLITELY THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH EVEN PROCURING THAT BECAUSE YOU HAD TO GET A LETTER OF INTENT, WHICH IS NOT THEIR POLICY. SO WE'RE ALREADY WAITING THREE YEARS FOR AMBULANCES THAT WE NEED THAT ARE COSTING $2 MILLION. AND WE HAVE A HUGE BUDGET. AND ALSO EVERY SINGLE THING THAT YOU PROCESS IS ON OUR WEBSITE FOR ANYONE TO SEE. EVERY SINGLE CONTRACT IS ON THE WEBSITE WITHIN ONE MONTH. SO EVEN IF YOU DO HAVE TO GIVE US A QUARTERLY REPORT OR A MONTHLY REPORT, YOU'RE GOING TO JUST LITERALLY JUST, JUST OPEN UP THE WEBSITE AND IT'LL BE THERE. SO FOR ME TO SEND IT TO YOU, IT'S EASY. SO THAT TO ME SOUNDS LIKE TRANSPARENCY. AND IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN 8% INCREASE IN INFLATION EVERY YEAR FOR ALL OF US, RIGHT. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER WAS AT 2012. THAT WAS SET. I'M SORRY, I FORGOT WHAT THE NUMBER WAS FOR THE 65,000. IT WAS IT WAS ACTUALLY IT WAS EVEN BEFORE CAMERON GOT HERE THAT THE NUMBER HAD INCREASED TO 65 FROM 50. AND IT WAS I THINK IT WAS IN 0809 AND HASN'T CHANGED SINCE. SO WE'RE SETTING OUR SALARIES EVERY YEAR TO MATCH INFLATION, COLA AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE'RE NOT SETTING THIS THRESHOLD WHICH, YOU KNOW, THREE AMBULANCES IS 2.1 $2.2 MILLION. OH, MY GOODNESS. SO, I MEAN, AND ALSO WHEN I GREW UP, I THOUGHT $1,000,000 HOUSE LOOKED LIKE A PALACE. NOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO AND ONE HALF BEDROOMS AND TWO BATHS AND, YOU KNOW, ZERO PLOT. SO THINGS HAVE CHANGED. $1,000,000 IS NOT THE SAME, $1,000,000 THAT IT WAS WHEN WE WROTE THIS. SO I'M GOING TO JUST GO FOR THIS AND I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF ALLOWING OUR STAFF CAMERA FOR YOU FOR NOW AND THEN THE POLICY THAT WOULD GO FORWARD, TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT. AS YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU'VE ACTUALLY WON ALL THESE AWARDS DESPITE THE TEN POINTS THAT GET TAKEN OFF BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY. SO WE'RE NOT EVEN GIVING YOU THAT AUTHORITY. WE'RE NOT ME. OH, NOT YOU. NOT YOU PERSONALLY. I MEAN, THE PROCESS, I APOLOGIZE, NOT YOU, BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN GIVING YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET THE TEN POINTS TAKEN OFF BECAUSE WE'RE CAPPING YOU AT A MILLION. SO WE'RE NOT YOUR MOON SHOT. YOU'RE STILL YOU'RE STILL HERE. SO I HEAR YOU. AND I REALLY DID HEAR YOU. SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF ALLOWING CAMERON, OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, THE ABILITY TO EFFICIENTLY KEEP OUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AND SEE IF I CAN GET A MOTION IN A SECOND TO SEE IF WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH IT. AT 0.5, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I'M YOU TO VOTE. DO A LINE. VOTE, PLEASE. YEAH, MY VOTE BY NAME. SO HERE WE GO. I WILL START WITH CARL. YAY OR NAY? YEAH. MARK I'M GOING TO SAY YEAH TODAY, BUT I DO WANT TO HAVE SOME FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU. YEAH. FOR TODAY. GOT IT. ROCHELLE. YAY FOR ME. MARCY. NAME? AND I'M A GAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. SO THE FIRST READING PASSES OF A VOTE OF 4 TO 1. IF I COULD HAVE THE CLERK READ THE TITLE FOR ORDINANCE 1420 22, ORDINANCE 1420 22, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING [VIII.e. ORDINANCE 14, 2022 – (1ST READING) END OF YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS’ BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2021, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2022, INCLUSIVE; PROVIDING A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] THE CITY OF PALM BEACH. GORDON'S BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER ONE, 2021, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2022. INCLUSIVE PROVIDING A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AUTHORITY TO CODIFY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE PURPOSES. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE HEARING AND I SEE ALAN OWENS IS AT THE PODIUM. HI, ALAN. HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, ALAN OWENS, FINANCE ADMINISTRATOR, ORDINANCE 14 IS A VERY SIMPLE AMENDMENT. IT'S A BASICALLY HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2122 BUDGET FOR TWO LINE ITEMS TO REFLECT THE ACCOUNTING TRANSACTIONS THAT HAD TO BE MADE TO POST THE CAPITAL LEASE PURCHASE OF A 100 FOOT SEAGRAVE LADDER TRUCK. COUNCIL APPROVED THAT ITEM IN APRIL OF 2021. AS YOU KNOW, IT TAKES QUITE A WHILE FOR THESE THINGS TO BE BUILT. SO WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED THE THE TRUCK. AND THE WAY THIS AGREEMENT WORKED IS THAT THE TRUIST, WHO IS THE FINANCING INSTITUTION, HELD THE MONEY IN ESCROW, AND ONCE IT'S DELIVERED TO US, THEY RELEASE THE FUNDS TO US AND THEN WE IN TURN PAY THE VENDORS. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SINCE WE BOOK THOSE AND EXPENDITURE AND THEN AT OFFSETTING REVENUE, WE HAVE TO AMEND THE BUDGET JUST TO, TO GET THE BUDGET TO MATCH THE EXPENDITURE. SO THERE IS NO IMPACT ON FUND BALANCE. THE ONLY IMPACT ON FUND BALANCE WILL BE OVER THE NEXT TEN YEAR PERIOD WHEN WE BUDGET AND PAY THE DEBT SERVICE. [02:45:03] JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, THIS IS JUST ONE AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR END IN 2022. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE BIG AMENDMENT THAT WE NORMALLY BRING TO COUNCIL AROUND THREE MONTHS AFTER THE END OF THE YEAR, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS WHERE WE PUT TOGETHER ALL THE PROJECTS AND OPEN BALANCES ON PURCHASE ORDERS TO BE CARRIED OVER, AND WE ADJUST THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE TO ACTUAL. SO THAT WILL BE COMING FOR TO YOU IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS OR SO. JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE'LL SEE YOU WITHIN THE NEXT QUARTER FOR THE HOUSEKEEPING THAT WE ALL EXPECT. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE REALLY WISHING TO SPEAK. NO. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING, MAKE IT A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE, PLEASE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 14, 2022. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. LET'S MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION 58. IF THE CLERK COULD PLEASE READ THE TITLE. [VIII.f. *RESOLUTION 58, 2022 – PANTHER NATIONAL MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING A MASTER SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD 24 DWELLING UNITS TO THE PANTHER NATIONAL MASTER PLAN WITHIN THE AVENIR PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT (PCD) THAT IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF COCONUT BOULEVARD APPROXIMATELY 0.9 MILES NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF AVENIR DRIVE AND COCONUT BOULEVARD, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN; PROVIDING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.] RESOLUTION 5820 22, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING A MASTER SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADD 24 DWELLING UNITS TO THE PANTHER NATIONAL MASTER PLAN WITHIN THE AVANIR PLAN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PCD THAT IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF COCONUT BOULEVARD, APPROXIMATELY 0.9 MILES NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF AVENIR DRIVE AND COCONUT BOULEVARD, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE PURPOSES. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE HEARING. DO I HAVE ANY EX PARTE? ALL RIGHT. NO, NONE. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE HAVE OUR PETITIONER. I THINK WE HAVE SCOTT HEDGE FROM PANTHER NATIONAL. WE DO? YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE TONIGHT. WE HAD A HEAVY LIFT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR BEING SO KIND AND WAITING. GO AHEAD. DON'T FEEL BAD. WE PUT YOU NEXT TO LAST. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? ALL RIGHT, GREAT EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS GEORGE MESSMER HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER. AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET. TONIGHT, WE ARE HERE FOR THE PANTHER NATIONAL COMMUNITY AND AMENDMENT TO OUR MASTER PLAN TO APPROVE THE ADDITION OF 24 DWELLING UNITS TO THAT MASTER PLAN FOR RESOLUTION 58. I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN AVANIR, NORTH OF NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD AND WEST OF THE B-LINE. WE ARE IN THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF AVANIR. WE WERE APPROVED WITH 218 DWELLING UNITS, SO ADDING THE 24 GETS US TO 242. THESE UNITS ARE PROPOSED AS VILLAS, WHICH WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE CLUBHOUSE LIFESTYLE CENTER AND SALES CENTER TRACKS, AND THOSE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK AS FINAL SITE PLANS TO BE APPROVED. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE DESIGNS NOW AND HOPE TO BRING THOSE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AS PART OF OUR AMENDED MASTER PLAN, WE DID ADJUST THE MAINTENANCE AREA AND MADE SURE THAT WE ARE INCLUDING A BUFFER ON THE INTERNAL PORTION OF THE MAINTENANCE AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUFFERING ALL SIDES, BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY. AGAIN, ALL THE NUMBERS ARE STAYING THE SAME. WE'RE JUST ADDING THOSE 24 UNITS TO THE OVERALL COUNT BRINGS US TO ABOUT 0.6 UNITS PER ACRE. AND AGAIN, HERE IS THE UPDATED MASTER PLAN. BASICALLY, THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED AGAIN WAS THE SITE DATA, INCLUDING THOSE ADDITIONAL UNITS. AS PART OF THE AMENDMENT, WE ARE PROPOSING AN ADDENDUM TO THE PANTHER NATIONAL DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE DESIGN CRITERIA FOR THESE VILLA UNITS. WE ARE DESIGNING THESE WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BUT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH ALL LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND WE'RE PROVIDING FOR THOSE MATERIAL THEME PALETTES, COLORS, AND IT'S ALL VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION TONIGHT? NO. ADDITIONAL STAFF PRESENTATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AND NO COMMENT CARDS. SO IF WE COULD, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE HEARING. MAY I GET A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE? PLEASE MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 5820 22. I'LL SECOND RIGHT ANY FURTHER, ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL. I THINK THAT WAS ANYONE. JUST DO ME A FAVOR AND JUST LIKE FOR ME PERSONALLY ON ALL THIS STUFF THAT WE THAT I SIGN OFF, I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT SO I KNOW I GO THROUGH AVANIR WE, I JUST TOURED OUR PAR THREE, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT WE'VE BUILT AROUND. [02:50:02] YOU KNOW, I'M CONSTANTLY I'M DOING IT HERE AND THEN I'LL WATCH IT GO UP. SO WHEN YOU CAN REACH OUT TO US AND TAKE LET US GO BACK IN THERE AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. WE WERE LOOKING AT AVANIR WHILE IT WAS STILL DIRT. ALL OF US WERE GOING BACK IN THERE AND FOUR WHEEL DRIVE TRUCKS AND SO INVITE US OUT SO WE CAN LIVE THE VISION WITH YOU BECAUSE WE'RE A PART OF IT. SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THE GOLF COURSE. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? I APOLOGIZE. PANTHER IS IS IT IS VERY MUCH ON ON THE WAY IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO DRIVE BACK THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HIDDEN IN THE BACK OF AVENUE BUT JUST TURN THE LAST CIRCLE AND LOOK NORTH AND THE THE LARGE HILL IN THE BACK IS PANTHER NATIONAL AND WE'RE MOVING OVER 1.6 MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF FILL TO JUST GET THE GOLF COURSE SHAPED TO WHERE WE WE WANT IT. SO MARK AND I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PLAY. YEAH MY GOODNESS. MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE EVERYBODY OUT THERE. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT. I THINK IT'S PRIVATE. CAN I AFFORD ONE OF THESE VILLAS? AS I KNOW, SCOTT, IF YOU INVITE US, WE MIGHT NOT LEAVE. SO CAN YOU GIVE US AN INDICATION ON WHERE THE UNITS ARE GOING TO GO? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHICH PARCEL YOU'RE MORE INCLINED TO PUT THEM ON AT THIS POINT? RIGHT NOW, THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE LIFESTYLE CENTER IN THE CORE. IN THE CORE. AND SO THAT WAY IT'S IT'S CLOSER TO THE AMENITIES, YOU KNOW, AND WITHIN THE POOLS AND THE AREAS THAT WILL BE AMENITIES AND IT WILL BE ABLE TO BRING IN A DIFFERENT PRODUCT LINE INTO PANTHER. WE ONLY HAVE 200 UNITS. SO THIS ALLOWS US TO HAVE ANOTHER OFFERING, IF YOU WILL, WITHIN THE PROJECT. AND I'M SORRY. NO, PLEASE. AND THIS WAS AND YOU DID SAY YESTERDAY, NATALIE, THAT THIS DOESN'T INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS IN AVENUE AS A WHOLE. IT'S JUST KIND OF SHIFTING THINGS AROUND. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. THANK YOU, MARK. ALL RIGHT. SO, SCOTT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE THINK THIS IS A BRILLIANT IDEA TO PUT THESE VILLAS IN HERE. SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. MAY I? ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU GUYS, SO MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU, SCOTT. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE MOVING ON TO RESOLUTIONS. PATTY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR RESOLUTION 49, RESOLUTION 49, 2022, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE [IX.a. RESOLUTION 49, 2022 – APPOINTMENTS AND RE-APPOINTMENTS TO THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES ADVISORY BOARD. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF REGULAR MEMBERS TO THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES ADVISORY BOARD; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ] APPOINTMENT OF REGULAR MEMBERS TO THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES ADVISORY BOARD, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE PURPOSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET A MOTION IN A SECOND SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS. I CAN TAKE A STAB AT IT IF YOU WANT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT CYNTHIA MORONEY. I HOPE I GET THEIR NAMES RIGHT. MARINETTE SORRY. NANCY SIMMS AND KEEP EDWARD PENZA AS ALTERNATE ONE AND MARY O'BRIEN AS ALTERNATE TWO AND THE REST OF THE BOARD REMAINS THE SAME. MAY I GET A SECOND? SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE MARK TOUCHING HIS MICROPHONE. IS THAT OKAY? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSED MOTION PASSES? FIVE ZERO. AND I WILL TELL YOU, CYNTHIA MARINETTE IS SHOWN HERSELF TO BE VERY HELPFUL. JOHN O'BRIEN AS WELL. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD A GOOD BOARD. I'VE HEARD GREAT STUFF COMING OUT OF THEM SO FAR. SO THAT'S GREAT. PATTI, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION 50, PLEASE. [IX.b. RESOLUTION 50, 2022 – APPOINTMENTS AND RE-APPOINTMENTS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF REGULAR AND ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ] RESOLUTION 52,022 RESOLUTION IN THE CITY COUNCIL OF CITY PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF REGULAR AND ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE PURPOSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION. DOES ANYONE HAVE A LIST OF NAMES OR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD? IF NOT, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE I CAN PROVIDE A LIST THAT I HAVE READY TO GO. I CAN MAKE THEM. CARL. ALL RIGHT, CARL. I'M IN FAVOR OF. SORRY. HOLD ON. I'M IN FAVOR WITH LEAVING BOBBY WUNDERLICH ON MATTHEW CAMILLA AND THE ALTERNATE RON MICHAEL CONEY. I DON'T KNOW. AND FAITH MEYER? YEAH. DO WE NEED TO SAY TO THE LAST. YEAH, THAT POINT, MATTHEW CAMILLA, AS A REGULAR BOARD MEMBER, DOES THAT NEED TO BE STATED? I'M HAPPY LISTED. HE'S UNDER THE REGULAR BOARD. MAX, WE HAVE TO LIST ALL THE NAMES IN ORDER. HOWEVER, THERE ARE THERE THERE LISTED LIKE THAT. THEY'RE LISTED ON THE EXHIBIT. THERE'LL BE AN EXHIBIT TO THE RESOLUTION. CORRECT. AS LISTED ON THE EXHIBIT. SO DID I. SECOND. ANYONE ELSE? BUT HE'S NOT RIGHT? RIGHT? YES. WELL, SO THEN HE'S MOVING UP, THOUGH, ONTO THE BOARD. YEAH. SO. SO, MATTHEW, CAMILLA IS GOING TO BE MOVING FROM FIRST ART ALTERNATE TO BE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD. RON, I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES. MCKOWN WOULD BE MOVING UP TO FIRST ALTERNATE AND FAITH MEYER WILL BE MOVING INTO SECOND ALTERNATE. [02:55:01] CORRECT. ARE WE GOOD? YES. YES. ALL RIGHT, LOVELY. LET'S LET'S VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND. YEAH. DO WE GET A SECOND? I APOLOGIZE. I JUMPED IN. THANK YOU, MARK. MY MISTAKE. ALL IN FAVOR AGAIN. OKAY. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION PASSES, FIVE ZERO ZONING. MY FAVORITE. NO FENCE. I KNOW. MARK WAS BUDGET. SO, PATTY, IF YOU COULD READ RESOLUTION 51, PLEASE. RESOLUTION 51, 2022, RESOLUTION THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF REGULAR AND ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING, [IX.c. RESOLUTION 51, 2022 – APPOINTMENTS AND RE-APPOINTMENTS TO THE PLANNING, ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF REGULAR AND ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING, ZONING, AND APPEALS BOARD; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. ] ZONING AND APPEALS BOARD, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. OKAY. SO BEFORE WE GO, I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT NADIA SPIVAK, WHO IS ON THE LIST FOR AN APPLICATION, HAS JOINED US THIS EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. LET'S SEE. SO DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS WE CAN GO AHEAD TO SAID OKAY. IF WE DO, DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT AS A MOTION OR DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT FIRST MOTION AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANT. THANK YOU, CARL. ALL RIGHT. REGULAR MEMBERS. ZACH ZACHARY. SETH MANSFIELD. CHARLES MILLER. WHERE ARE YOU? MILLER SORRY. SORRY. CHRISTOPHER OFFERED ALL TIMOTHY CO PAGE. RANDOLPH HANSON. ALTERNATE MEMBER. FIRST ALTERNATE MEMBER LINDA HESS. AND SECOND ALTERNATE MEMBER. NADIA SPIVAK. SPIVAK. I'LL SECOND. THAT'S MY MOTION. WONDERFUL. THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AND HE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME TO THE BOARDS, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NEXT ITEM FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ANYTHING ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT BESIDES BRONCOS? I KNOW BRONCOS HAVE BEEN ON FOR ALMOST 30 MINUTES. WE'RE WORKING ON IT. HALFTIME? YEAH, IT'S NOT HALFTIME YET. MARCI, THANK YOU FOR THE SNACKS TONIGHT. AND MAX, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT TONIGHT? NOT A CHANCE. NO. OH, MY GOSH. YOU GUYS, WE DID IT. IT'S NOT YET. 9:00. IF THERE'S. I WAS. I WAS OVER. I THOUGHT WE'D GO OVER NINE. I DIDN'T WEIGH IN. I CAN WAIT ONE MORE MINUTE SO THAT I WIN THE BET. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.