[Call to Order]
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GOOD EVENING. WE WILL BE CALLING TO ORDER THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR JANUARY 9TH, 2025.
WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MAYOR REED. HERE.
WOODS. HERE, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER.
MA'AM. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR MODIFICATIONS THIS EVENING, PLEASE? NO, MA'AM. EXCELLENT.
AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR PRESENTATIONS.
[V. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC]
AND NEXT WILL BE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.I DO NOT SEE FOR ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, WE WILL JUST DIG RIGHT IN.
MAY WE GO AHEAD AND BERT. THANK YOU.
BERT IS GOING TO HELP ME WITH MY CARDS TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS WE'LL CALL YOU UP.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU'LL HAVE.
FOR ITEMS NOT IN THE AGENDA. OKAY.
THESE ARE FOR THE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.
SO WE'LL BE CALLING UP YOUR NAME.
SO FIRST WE'RE GOING TO CALL GEORGE ELLIOTT TO THE PODIUM.
THANK YOU SIR. MY NAME IS GEORGE ELLIOTT.
I'M AT 101 TWO SEVEN NORTH MILITARY TRAIL, PALM BEACH GARDENS, OBVIOUSLY.
AND BASICALLY THE THE TRAFFIC AND THE WAY PEOPLE DRIVE AROUND HERE IS DANGEROUS.
MILITARY TRAIL HAS GOTTEN RIDICULOUS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OUT WEST.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS HOCKEY THING IS GOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THAT MAY ADD TO THE PROBLEM.
SO SHE I MADE HER WAIT AN EXTRA YEAR ON BOTH THE PERMIT AND THE DRIVER'S LICENSE.
SHE THANKS ME TO THIS DAY ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN.
SO MY NEIGHBORS HERE, OTHER NEIGHBORS WANTED TO COME.
WE LIVE RIGHT THERE ON MILITARY, JUST NORTH OF HOLLY.
WHEN YOU PULL OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT, YOU WANT TO GO NORTH.
YOU GOT TO MAKE A U-TURN ON HOLLY.
WELL, IT'S A ROLL OF THE DICE.
MY NEIGHBOR HERE, HE GOT T-BONED IN THAT INTERSECTION.
JUST TRYING TO TURN LEFT ON HOLLY.
IF YOU GIVE HIM A CHANCE, HE'LL SPEAK ALSO.
AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT JUST HERE BECAUSE I TRAVEL UP AND DOWN THE COAST.
RIGHT. AND THE AGGRESSIVE DRIVERS HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.
AND THE RED LIGHT IS A JOKE, RIGHT, PEOPLE? IF I'M TRYING TO CATCH A LIGHT AND I'VE GOT A TRAILER BEHIND ME, I'LL SEE THE LIGHT TURN AND I CAN'T STOP.
BUT I'LL SEE PEOPLE 100 YARDS BEHIND ME.
JUST MOSEYING THROUGH THE LIGHT.
THAT'S INSANE. RIGHT? SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE WAY PEOPLE DRIVE AND THEIR INCONSIDERATION FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
AND I'M WONDERING WHAT WE CAN EVEN DO ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A POLICE OFFICER AT MILITARY AND PGA MILITARY IN NORTH LAKE AND THE LAKE TALKING TO THE LADY YESTERDAY, MILITARY AND BLUE HERON BECAUSE THERE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
AND NOBODY STOPS AT A RED STOP SIGN.
EVERYBODY MAKES A RIGHT HAND TURN.
AND I JUST I FELT I'VE BEEN WANTING TO COME FOR A WHILE BECAUSE IT'S IT'S RIDICULOUS.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE IT OTHER THAN MORE OFFICERS.
BUT YOU DON'T SEE TOO MANY ANYMORE ON THE ROADS.
AND SO BUT YOU KNOW, I SEE THERE'S OTHER WRECKS AT THAT INTERSECTION TOO, AND IT MAY BE MY NEIGHBOR'S NEXT UP.
HE'LL TELL YOU HIS SITUATION, BUT I THINK WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY SEES THE SAME THING I'M SEEING, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT JUST AROUND HERE. PEOPLE SAY MIAMI IS BAD.
SO THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN TONIGHT.
NEXT WE HAVE LISA JOHNSON, PLEASE.
LISA JOHNSON. AND AFTER MISS JOHNSON, WE'LL HAVE GEORGE ELLIOTT.
SO IF GEORGE ELLIOTT COULD BE READY TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
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THANK YOU SIR.OH, THAT WAS YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT.
GOT IT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU WEREN'T.
YOU STILL WENT OVER A LITTLE BIT.
RIGHT. SO I APOLOGIZE AFTER THAT.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
17856 89TH PLACE NORTH IN LOXAHATCHEE, FLORIDA.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
I WROTE YOU ALL AN EMAIL TODAY.
I'M SURE YOU GOT IT AND READ IT.
THERE WAS I DID HAVE SOME CONVERSATION WITH JEFF, WHO WAS IS THE DEVELOPER OF THE COCONUT CROSSING.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT OUR HAMLIN BOULEVARD, WHICH IS THE STREET BEHIND WHICH IS ONE OF OUR NON PRIVATE ROADS, WOULD ONLY BE AN ENTRANCE INTO A DAYCARE.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOMEHOW IT GOT APPROVED.
I NEVER WENT TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING, BUT I PLAN TO FROM NOW ON.
I SPENT YESTERDAY ON HAMLIN BOULEVARD AT WEST END TALKING TO THOSE PEOPLE.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT THEIR BACKYARDS LOOKED LIKE.
WHAT'S GOING ON ON NORTH LAKE? TRYING TO PREVENT WEST END CROSSING WEST END? I THINK IT'S CALLED THAT.
YOU GUYS ARE YOU GUYS HAVE YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR MUNICIPALITY BACKS UP ONTO OUR ROADS WHICH HAS HOUSES ON IT. YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RURAL LIFESTYLE.
WE HAVE HORSES, WE HAVE GOATS, WE HAVE CHILDREN PLAYING.
AND I WILL COME TO THE PLANNING MEETINGS.
I KNOW THERE WAS I WAS ONE GOING TO COME TO THE ONE THAT WAS CANCELED.
I DID WANT TO COME HERE, THOUGH, AND TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A PRESENT, JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DO HAVE A BOARD MEMBER THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THAT IS, ONE BOARD MEMBER IS SUPPOSED TO GO TO EACH MEETING.
SO SOMEBODY DOES HAVE PALM BEACH GARDENS.
I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THEY WERE GOING, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE JUST AN ENTRANCE INTO A DAYCARE, A ONE WAY ENTRANCE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
BUT HE TOLD ME WE GAVE THEM THE EGRESS.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO INDIAN TRAILS YET, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT OR NOT FOR ME AT ANOTHER TIME IN AN EMAIL.
I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME TONIGHT.
THANK YOU KINDLY. APPRECIATE IT.
OF COURSE, MADAM MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUICK ANSWER FOR HER ABOUT THE PLAT, IF YOU CARE TO HAVE.
YES, SIR. WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE FOR OUR STAFF? NATALIE CROWLEY, OUR ZONING DIRECTOR.
MISS JOHNSON, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN IMMEDIATELY.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE IS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS POSTED A PLAN THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PLAN OF RECORD ON ITS WEBSITE, AND IT'S VERY MISLEADING THAT THERE IS AN EGRESS AND WHETHER OR NOT AN EGRESS HAS BEEN OBTAINED, AN EASEMENT FORMAT THAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO ALL THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS A PLAT.
NOTHING IS CHANGING WITH THE SITE PLAN.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU THE APPROVED PLAN OF RECORD AND WE CAN PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH AFTER.
I DID SPEAK TO JEFF AND HE SAID THAT WAS THE WRONG SITE PLAN ON THERE.
BUT HE DID SAY THAT THERE IS AN ENTRANCE ON HAMLIN TO THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT EGRESS HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED? CORRECT. EGRESS IS NOT APPROVED.
IT'S AN EGRESS ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF PROVIDING ACCESS INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER.
SO THAT'S THE JUST JUST WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE LATEST APPROVED PLAN OF RECORD AND THAT WILL YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
BUT I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY CLARIFY THAT FOR TONIGHT'S ACTION ON CITY COUNCIL.
EXCELLENT. WE'LL BE IN CONTINUED COMMUNICATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NATALIE. WE APPRECIATE THAT.
WE DO HAVE ONE MORE CARD, AND THAT IS FOR DAVID HERLE.
COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE, SIR.
YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? MY NAME IS DAVID HERLE.
I'M 10121 NORTH MILITARY TRAIL, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL FIELD, ACTUALLY.
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I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK.MILITARY IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S MOVED INTO THIS AREA, AND YOU CAN TELL IT WHEN WE COME OUT OF OUR PARKING LOT, I HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS THREE LANES IN ORDER TO GET INTO THAT LEFT LANE, TO EITHER TURN LEFT OR MAKE A U-TURN AND COME BACK.
SO IT TAKES ME A LONG TIME TO GET OUT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET OUT QUICKLY.
I DID HAVE AN ACCIDENT ON THAT TURN THERE.
PEOPLE ARE, LIKE GEORGE SAID, JUST TYING IN TO WHAT HE SAID.
TWO AND THREE AND FOUR CARS THROUGH RED LIGHTS.
I SUPPORT THE PALM BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT 100%.
IT'S PRETTY IT'S PRETTY DANGEROUS.
THE OTHER THING I HAVE IS ABOUT THIS NEW ICE RINK THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WE HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.
DO WE HAVE A REPORT THIS EVENING? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[VII. CONSENT AGENDA]
IS ANYONE PULLING ANYTHING? ANY RESOLUTIONS FROM CONSENT? NO, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO AHEAD.IF NOTHING'S BEEN PULLED, CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING? MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ANY OPPOSED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO RESOLUTION TWO 2025.
[VIII.a. *RESOLUTION 2, 2025 – PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION, INC. REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN FOR AN INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY AT PLANT DRIVE PARK. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, APPROVING A SITE PLAN FOR AN INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY AT PLANT DRIVE PARK, THE SUBJECT SITE BEING GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF LILAC STREET AND PLANT DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 0.3 MILES EAST OF NORTH MILITARY TRAIL, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN; PROVIDING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE; AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.]
THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING ON THE FOLLOWING CASE.THIS MEANS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO BASE ITS DECISION ON THE EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE RECORD OF THIS PROCEEDING, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE TESTIMONY AT THE HEARING, THE MATERIALS WHICH ARE IN THE OFFICIAL CITY FILE ON THIS APPLICATION, AND ANY DOCUMENTS PRESENTED DURING THIS HEARING.
THE COUNCIL IS ALSO REQUIRED BY LAW TO ALLOW CROSS EXAMINATION OF ANY WITNESSES WHO TESTIFY TONIGHT.
IF YOU, ANY OF YOU WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT, PLAN TO TESTIFY THIS EVENING OR WISH TO OFFER COMMENTS, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT, THE YELLOW PIECE OF PAPER, AND THEN PLEASE GIVE IT TO OUR CITY CLERK.
AGAIN, IF YOU ARE SPEAKING, PLEASE DO STAND UP.
IF YOU IF YOU'RE FILING A COMMENT CARD AND YOU ARE SPEAKING.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. PATTY JUST SAW SOME UPS AND DOWNS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? THANK YOU. MA'AM, IF THE CLERK COULD PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR RESOLUTION TWO.
RESOLUTION TWO 2025, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA.
APPROVING A SITE PLAN FOR AN INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY AT PLANT DRIVE PARK, THE SUBJECT SITE BEING GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF LILAC STREET AND PLANT DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 0.3 MILES EAST OF NORTH MILITARY TRAIL, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE PURPOSES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE HEARING AND WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH EX PARTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER TINSLEY. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
IN APRIL OF 2024, I RECUSED MYSELF FROM VOTING ON THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION CONTRACT.
I ASKED FOR A LEGAL OPINION, TO BE SURE.
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THEREFORE, I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM VOTING ON RESOLUTION TWO 2024.ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANY EX PARTE MYSELF, SO WE'LL BEGIN BY HAVING THE PRESENTATION.
I'M MIKE WINTER WITH THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION.
IF IT'S OKAY, WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT I'M GOING TO ASK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE NOT SPEAKING TO LEAVE AND THEM TO COME IN JUST TO SHOW ALL OF THE SUPPORT WE HAVE, OR IF THAT'S NOT OKAY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
WILL THEY BE SPEAKING THIS EVENING? NO, BUT THERE'S A BUNCH OF KIDS HOCKEY JERSEYS, A BUNCH OF EIGHT YEAR OLDS THAT WE'D LOVE TO SHOW THE CITY COUNCIL THE SUPPORT ON THE HOCKEY FRONT.
I DON'T WANT TO. I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK OUR CITY MANAGER, WHO WILL BE ADVISING US ON THAT TONIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE CHILDREN JOINING US? AND THEN I ASK ANYBODY WHO'S HERE WITH US THAT'S NOT INTENDING TO SPEAK.
SO IF YOU IF YOU DO NOT INTEND TO SPEAK BUT YOU'RE HERE IN SUPPORT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO START AS THIS IS GOING ON JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY STAFF FOR WORKING WITH OUR TEAM THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS, THE CITY STAFF SUPPORT AND INPUT HAVE BEEN VITAL TO ENSURE THIS PROJECT IS BUILT TO THE STANDARDS OF PALM BEACH GARDENS.
WELL, JUST YESTERDAY, THE NHL ANNOUNCED THAT AFTER FIVE CONSECUTIVE SEASONS WITH FLORIDA BASED TEAMS REPRESENTING REPRESENTING THE NHL IN THE STANLEY CUP FINALS, THE NHL WILL BE BRINGING THE WINTER CLASSIC OUTDOOR PREMIERE GAME TO LOANDEPOT PARK IN MIAMI, FLORIDA NEXT JANUARY.
GARY BETTMAN, THE NHL COMMISSIONER, STATED STANLEY CUPS, STRINGS OF SELLOUTS AND THE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH OF YOUTH AND HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY THROUGHOUT THE STATE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT FLORIDA IS A HOCKEY HOTBED.
NEXT. IN A NOVEMBER 2024 LETTER TO THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS IN SUPPORT OF OUR PROJECT, GEORGE LINDLEY, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY SPORTS COMMISSION, STATES, ICE HOCKEY IS BECOMING ONE OF THE RISING SPORTS IN FLORIDA AND IS CURRENTLY THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN THE PALM BEACHES.
THE PALM BEACH COUNTY SPORTS COMMISSION IS EAGER TO PARTNER WITH THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION AND THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS IN UTILIZING THE PROPOSED FACILITY TO GROW OUR LOCAL ECONOMY WHILE PROVIDING A SPECIAL VENUE FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
HE'S ALSO A VERY SUCCESSFUL HOCKEY COACH.
WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HIS LEADERSHIP AT THE FOUNDATION.
AT THIS POINT. I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO LARRY.
THANK YOU SIR. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES, I HAVE, THANK YOU. MAYOR REED, VICE MAYOR MIDDLETON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
CITY MANAGER FERRIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING US TODAY.
I WANT TO THANK THE FAMILIES WHO'VE COME OUT AND TRIED TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT TODAY AS WELL.
WHEN WE WHEN I TOOK OVER THE PALM BEACH BREAKERS YOUTH HOCKEY PROGRAM IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, EVERY KID WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE PROGRAM GOT TWO T SHIRTS. AND ON THE BACK OF THOSE T SHIRTS, ONE OF THEM SAID, TOGETHER WE BUILD.
AND THE OTHER ONE SAID, WE FULLY COMMIT, RIGHT? THAT MEANS THAT THAT CULTURE IS CORE TO WHAT WE DO AT THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION.
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FIRST OF ALL, TOGETHER WE BUILD.I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR HAVING A COMMUNITY THAT ALLOWS FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, THAT ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO, IN A PHILANTHROPIC BASIS TO HELP IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY. MY FAMILY AND I MOVED HERE IN AUGUST.
WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY, TO HAVE THE GARDENS PARK, TO HAVE OTHER MUNICIPAL SERVICES, AND IT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN A WELCOMING COMMUNITY AS PART OF OUR HOCKEY PROGRAM. WE, OF COURSE, HAVE CHILDREN OF ALL WALKS OF LIFE ON OUR EIGHT YEAR OLD HOCKEY TEAM.
WE HAVE A CHILDREN OF TEACHERS AND GROUNDSKEEPERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND DOCTORS AND ENTREPRENEURS, ALL OF WHICH ARE ATTRACTED TO THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE VALUES THAT THE CITY STANDS FOR AND BECAUSE OF THE VALUES OF TEAM SPORTS.
NUMBER ONE IS IT WILL PROVIDE ICE BASED RECREATION FOR THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE OTHER RINKS IN THE AREA, THEY ARE SIMPLY FULLY BOOKED. THE DEMAND IS MUCH GREATER THAN THE AVAILABLE SUPPLY.
SECONDLY, WE HAVE WE HAVE A VALUES BASED PROGRAM.
THE REASON WHY I AM SUCH A STRONG SUPPORTER OF HOCKEY IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF TEAM SPORTS, WHETHER THAT BE THE TEAMS THAT DO FIGURE SKATING OR THE TEAMS THAT PLAY HOCKEY IN FORMING THE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR YOUTH.
IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO MY OLDER BOYS.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TO MY YOUNGER CHILDREN, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CHILDREN THAT WE SERVE, RIGHT? AND THEN FINALLY RIGHT.
AND WHEN WE MOVED HERE IN AUGUST, WE FOUND AN UNBELIEVABLY VIBRANT COMMUNITY.
THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS WE FULLY COMMIT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE MUST BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS FACILITY MUST NOT JUST SERVE THE NARROW INTERESTS OF A FEW PEOPLE THAT LOVE HOCKEY, OR A FEW PEOPLE THAT LOVE FIGURE SKATING, BUT IT MUST SERVE THE GREATER COMMUNITY. I HOPE THAT THE STAFF CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT THE EXPERTS THAT THE FOUNDATION HAS HIRED IN ORDER TO PLAN, IN ORDER TO DESIGN, WE'VE BEEN WILLING STUDENTS TO THE STAFF.
WE'VE TRIED TO BE GOOD LISTENERS.
IN THE EVENT THAT WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET A GREEN LIGHT TO BE ABLE TO START THE PROJECT.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE NEW YORK MARATHON.
YOU RUN TWO MILES JUST TO GET TO THE STARTING LINE.
WHILE IT'S BEEN A SEVEN YEAR JOURNEY FOR MIKE WINTERS AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION, WE WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO BE ABLE TO GET STARTED, TO BRING THIS TO LIFE, TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE GREATER COMMUNITY, TO THE PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE PART OF THE HOCKEY AND FIGURE SKATING COMMUNITY.
I APPRECIATE YOU DOING YOUR PART IN ORDER TO SHOW SUPPORT, EVEN FOR THE FOR THE LITTLE ONES HERE.
THIS IS THE WAY GOVERNMENT WORKS.
THEY LISTEN, THEY STUDY, WE TRY TO WORK TOGETHER.
ULTIMATELY, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
WE ARE WE ARE A NO APPLAUSE COUNCIL.
I WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO FEEL A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING.
IF WE COULD START RIGHT NOW WITH NO MORE APPLAUSE, NO HOOTING, NO HOLLERING, NO INTERRUPTING, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY THINGS YOU AGREE WITH, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY THINGS THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH.
SO I'M ASKING THAT OF ALL OF YOU HERE TONIGHT.
LET'S DO THIS WITH CIVILITY AND LISTENING AND WE WILL GO FORWARD.
THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, ANGELA BIAGGI WITH WGI.
I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION, A SUSTAINABLE 500 AND 1C3 FOUNDATION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2017 WITH A MISSION TO BRING WORLD CLASS RECREATION EXPERIENCE TO THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS AS A NOT FOR PROFIT.
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FOOT PUBLIC RECREATION CENTER.TWO REGULATION ICE SHEETS AND ANCILLARY USES.
THERE ARE NO WAIVERS, VARIANCES OR OVERLAYS AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY IS ZONED P PUBLIC INSTITUTIONAL AND WE DO MEET OR EXCEED ALL OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ZONING DISTRICT. SO THE FAR EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM FAR BELOW THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE BELOW THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
WE'RE MEETING ALL OF THE BUILDING SETBACKS, PROVIDING THE MINIMUM LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, AND THEN PROVIDING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF REQUIRED OPEN SPACE FOR A SITE IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
FOR THE BENEFITS OF THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT ARE THAT THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY GET THE BENEFITS OF THIS TYPE OF TYPE OF A FACILITY WITHOUT THE EXPENDITURE OF TAX DOLLARS, AND THE FOUNDATION TAKES ON THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY.
AND WE'RE ABLE TO BRING THIS UNIQUE AND WORLD CLASS RECREATION EXPERIENCE TO THE CITY THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT MOST LIKELY NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT. THE FACILITY IS GOING TO OFFER A VARIETY OF ICE SPORTS PROGRAMING, INCLUDING FIGURE SKATING, HOCKEY AND CURLING, BUT IS FLEXIBLE TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER INDOOR SPORTS.
WE DO HAVE ANCILLARY USES SUCH AS A PRO SHOP, RESTAURANT, TRAINING ROOMS AND OFFICES, ALL OF WHICH ARE NECESSARY AND COMMONPLACE TO SUPPORT A FACILITY OF THIS CALIBER. THIS IS A FAMILY ORIENTED FACILITY WITH OUR TARGET CLIENTELE BETWEEN AGES OF FOUR AND 18, BUT WE WILL BE OFFERING PROGRAMING FOR ALL AGES AND ALL ABILITIES.
THE CENTER WILL BE OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK FROM 6 A.M.
THE PEAK TIMES OF OPERATION, THOUGH, ARE IN THE EVENINGS FROM 4 TO 11 P.M.
ON THE WEEKDAYS AND AND ON WEEKENDS.
THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN OVERLAID ONTO THE SITE.
WE'LL GO INTO SOME MORE DETAILS ON THE SITE.
DESIGN. THE BUILDING ITSELF IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
REALLY KIND OF PUSHING IT AS FAR AWAY FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE AS POSSIBLE.
THERE ARE THREE ENTRANCES INTO THE SITE, TWO ON LILAC AND ONE ON PLANT DRIVE.
THE BUILDING HAS A LARGE COVERED DROP OFF AREA OR A PORTE COCHERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
YOU'LL SEE MORE RENDERINGS OF THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE ARCHITECTURE SLIDES.
AND THERE'S TWO DRIVE DETENTION AREAS ALONG THE SOUTH AND EAST SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
WE ARE USING THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEER PARKING GENERATION MANUAL TO ESTABLISH THE NUMBER OF MINIMUM PARKING SPACES FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A RECOMMENDED 150 SPACES PER RANK.
WE ARE PROVIDING 311 SPACES, SO A LITTLE BIT OVER OVER THAT MINIMUM, THAT QUANTITY OR THAT NUMBER IS SUPPORTED BY SIX CASE STUDIES IN THE ITE PARKING GENERATION MANUAL.
THE CLIENTELE WILL PRIMARILY ARRIVE BY PRIVATE VEHICLE.
THIS ISN'T PROGRAMING WHERE WE'RE EXPECTING OR PLANNING FOR BUS SCHOOL BUS TRAFFIC.
AND THEN THE WESTERN PARKING LOT IS AN EXISTING PARKING LOT THAT THAT IS OUT THERE NOW.
FOR THE TRAFFIC, WE AGAIN ARE LOOKING TO THE IT FOR THE TRIP GENERATION, AND THEY ARE A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED STANDARD THAT ALL MUNICIPALITIES USE TO PROVIDE INSIGHT AND GUIDANCE ON THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THE THESE TYPES OF USES WOULD GENERATE.
SO WITH THAT, WE ARE ADDING 1815 DAILY TRIPS TO THE SITE.
SO ONE DRIVE IN, YOU DRIVE IN.
THAT'S ONE TRIP YOU DRIVE OUT, THAT'S ANOTHER TRIP.
IT IS INCLUSIVE OF STAFF PARKING.
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IT'S INCLUSIVE OF DELIVERIES TO THE SITE AND IT'S INCLUSIVE OF TOURNAMENT DAYS.IT'S REALLY THIS THE IT LOOKS AT REALLY A WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR FOR THESE TYPES OF USES.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THAT 1800 TRIPS IS OVER A 24 HOUR PERIOD.
SO THIS IS IN AND OUT OVER THE ENTIRE COURSE OF THE DAY.
THERE'S ONE RIGHT TURN LANE PROPOSED ON LILAC AND ONE LEFT TURN LANE PROPOSED ON PLANT DRIVE.
AND THESE ARE REALLY TO ENSURE THE ENHANCED SAFETY AND OPERATIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ROADS.
SO THE TRAFFIC AND TURNING INTO OUR PARKING LOT FOR OUR SITE WILL BE QUEUED IN THOSE TURN LANES.
SO OUR TRAFFIC WILL BE SEPARATED.
AND WITH THOSE, EVEN WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT OUR USES GENERATING, STILL THE ROADS WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT BELOW CAPACITY. IN ADDITION, WE ARE IMPROVING THE INTERSECTION OF PLANT AND HOLLY.
RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST TWO LANES.
WE'RE ADDING A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN AND A DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE AT THAT INTERSECTION.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE ONLY TURN LANES OF THOSE THREE THAT I'VE MENTIONED, THE THE ONE ON PLANT, THE LEFT TURN LANE INTO OUR SITE FROM PLANT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS WARRANTED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL TRIPS THAT OUR USE IS GENERATING.
THE OTHER TURN LANES ON LILAC AND THE TURN LANE AT THE LANE AT THE INTERSECTION OF HOLLY WERE ONES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING AFTER WORKING WITH CITY ENGINEERING AND REALLY, AGAIN, IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT THROUGHPUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPROVING THE SITUATION THAT'S ALREADY OCCURRING OUT THERE.
WE'RE ALSO MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SIDEWALKS.
SO THE ENTIRE BLOCK OF LILAC AND PLANT THERE EXISTS FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS.
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ENLARGING THOSE TO EIGHT FEET.
WE THINK THAT THE SIGNAGE IS IMPORTANT AND WILL BE CRITICAL TO AID IN TRAFFIC FLOW AND MOVEMENTS THROUGH THE PROPERTY TO EASILY DIRECT PEOPLE OUT TO NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND MILITARY AND I-95.
THIS IS ALSO INCLUDED IN AN OPERATIONAL PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH OUR PROPOSAL, WHERE IN ADDITION TO THOSE SIGNS, ON DAYS WHERE WE ANTICIPATE HEAVIER TRAFFIC, LIKE OUR TOURNAMENT DAYS, WE WILL HAVE ON SITE PERSONNEL DIRECTING TRAFFIC AS WELL.
LET'S TURN IT OVER TO TOM BEATTY TO DISCUSS THE ARCHITECTURE.
I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS DESIGN.
YOU KNOW, WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH CITY STAFF.
YOU KNOW, FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, WE JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT YOU ARE SWORN IN, SIR.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO WE WE USED ALL THAT INPUT TO REALLY PUSH AND DRIVE THIS DESIGN.
WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOUTHERN FLORIDA DESIGN INFLUENCES TO REALLY DESIGN A BUILDING THAT IS FOR ITS FOR ITS LOCATION AND ALSO BEING SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT.
SO THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION THAT'S ON LILAC.
YOU HAVE KIDS WITH BAGS AND EQUIPMENT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN GET TO THE FACILITY SAFELY.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S UNIQUE, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE REALLY PUSHED HARD ON OVER THE LAST 25, 30 YEARS IN ICE ARENA DESIGN IS REALLY INCORPORATING NATURAL LIGHT INTO THE BUILDING.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS, A LOT OF GLASS FOCUSING INTO THE LOBBY.
YOU SEE THE ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON INSIDE IT BOTH AT NIGHT AND DURING THE DAY.
AND THEN BECAUSE IT IS A RECREATION FACILITY.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A LITTLE MORE LIGHTHEARTED.
WE ADDED SOME NICE LARGE COLOR GRAPHICAL PANELS THAT WILL HELP ACTIVATE THE FRONT.
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SO WITH THAT, THE REST OF THE MATERIALS AROUND THE BUILDING ARE INSULATED PRECAST WALL PANELS AND CAST STONE, AND WE HAVE A VERTICAL REVEAL IN THEM.TO BREAK DOWN THE SCALE, ADD VARIETY TO THE FACADE AS WE WORK OUR WAY AROUND THE BUILDING.
ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THAT PRECAST THAT WRAPS AROUND THOSE VERTICAL LINES.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE INTRODUCED WINDOWS.
THEY ACTUALLY GO RIGHT INTO THE ICE SHEET.
MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, SO IT INTEGRATES IN WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT WAS ADDING THESE VERTICAL FINS THAT COME OUT AND YOU SEE THEM AT THE WINDOWS, THEY'RE A LITTLE A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT THEY DO A COUPLE THINGS. THEY ADD A LITTLE DEPTH TO THE BUILDING, BUT TWO, THEY PROTECT THOSE WINDOWS FROM THE SUN.
SO IT ALL GOES PART AND PARCEL TOGETHER.
AND THEN FINALLY WE BROUGHT A NICE CORNICE ELEMENT AROUND THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S JUST NOT YOU KNOW, LIKE AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.
IT HAS DETAIL TO IT, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
WITH THAT, WE HAVE THE WEST ELEVATION.
THIS IS THE SIDE THAT FACES THE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO WE BROUGHT THAT THAT CORNICE AROUND TO THE FRONT.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE BRINGING THE PRECAST AND THE REVEALS THROUGH AND ADDING THOSE WINDOWS.
AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, YOU SEE THE LANDSCAPING THAT REINFORCES THAT.
AND FINALLY WE HAVE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS REALLY WHERE ALL THE OPERATIONS HAPPEN.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF MECHANICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR AN ICE ARENA.
YOU'RE NOT SEEING ANY EQUIPMENT ON THIS BUILDING.
IT'S ALL ENCLOSED. IT'S ALL HIDDEN.
WE'RE IN A MARKET. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ICE ARENAS WHERE I'M FROM.
IN MINNEAPOLIS, WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF ICE ARENAS.
I'VE DESIGNED 60 OF THEM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THEY'VE REALLY CHANGED A LOT OVER THE LAST COUPLE DECADES.
AND TODAY, THESE ICE ARENAS ARE REALLY SMART.
THEY'RE ALWAYS BIG SQUARE BOXES, BUT THEY'RE ONE OF THE SMARTEST BOXES YOU'LL EVER COME ACROSS BECAUSE WE NEED THE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, THE REFRIGERATION SYSTEMS, DEHUMIDIFICATION SYSTEMS. ALL THE WORK IN CONCERT TOGETHER.
WHEN WE BUILD A BETTER REFRIGERATOR, WE HAVE A BETTER ICE ARENA.
THINGS THAT COMES OUT OF THIS IS OVER THE YEARS, WE CAN REALLY MAKE THESE QUITE SUSTAINABLE.
SO IF YOU LOOK ON THIS, WE RECLAIM A LOT OF ENERGY FROM ICE MAKING.
SO WHEN YOU MAKE ICE, A BYPRODUCT IS HEAT.
SO WE UTILIZE THAT TO MELT THE SNOW.
SO WHEN THEY SHAVE THE ICE DOWN TO MAKE A NEW SHEET OF ICE, THAT SNOW SHAVINGS GO INTO A PIT.
SO THESE AREN'T GOING OUTSIDE.
THERE'S NOTHING GOING OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.
WE'RE KEEPING EVERYTHING INTERNAL.
AND THEN WE TAKE THAT HEAT AND WE WHAT'S CALLED SUBSOIL HEATING.
SO WE ACTUALLY KEEP IT JUST ABOVE FREEZING.
AND THEN WE ALSO UTILIZE THAT USE HEAT OR WASTE HEAT FOR DOMESTIC WATER.
SO PEOPLE ARE TAKING SHOWERS OR WASHING THEIR HANDS.
WE'RE GETTING A MAJORITY OF THAT HEAT FROM OUR REFRIGERATION MAKING PROCESS.
SO REALLY A LOT OF INNOVATION THAT WENT INTO IT.
AND THEN SAME ON DEHUMIDIFICATION SYSTEMS. YOU'RE MAKING ICE. YOU HAVE HUMIDITY JUST LIKE A POOL.
INSTEAD OF DUMPING THAT HEAT OUTSIDE, WE RECLAIM IT AND HELP IT TO HEAT THE INDOOR SPACES.
AND THEN FINALLY WE'RE MAKING IT SOLAR READY.
SO THE ROOF STRUCTURE IS SET FOR IT.
THE BACKBONE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALL SET THAT WE CAN ADD SOLAR TO IT.
AND THEN OUR THERMAL INSULATION WE USE WHITE ROOFS ON THESE.
I HAVE WHITE ROOFS IN PLACE FOR 30 YEARS THAT WORK REALLY WELL.
IT MINIMIZES THAT HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.
IT KEEPS THAT RADIANT HEAT OFF OF THE THE ROOF.
SO IT MAKES A REALLY SUSTAINABLE AND WELL RUNNING ICE ARENA.
AND THEN LAST I'LL TRY TO NOT GET TOO TECHY HERE.
THAT'S A MOUTHFUL. THERE'S TWO WORDS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
OKAY. SO AMMONIA IS A SUSTAINABLE REFRIGERANT.
SO WE KNOW THESE SYSTEMS REALLY WELL.
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AND NUMBER TWO, THE WORD INDIRECT.WHAT THAT MEANS IS ALL THE AMMONIA STAYS IN THE BACK ROOM.
GLYCOL. THE GLYCOL GOES OUT INTO THE FLOOR.
OKAY. SO IT MAKES A VERY SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 1200 TO 1500 POUNDS OF REFRIGERANT.
AND THEN I MENTIONED ALREADY THE WASTE HEAT RECOVERY HOW WE USE THAT.
AND THEN WITH THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES WE'RE VERY WELL VERSED IN ALL THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.
WE'LL HAVE A TIER TWO REPORTING TO EPA.
SO A YEARLY REPORT THAT THE FACILITY WILL HAVE TO DO GET IT SET UP FOR THAT.
THESE ARE BUILT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND THEY WORK REALLY WELL AND THEY'RE VERY SAFE.
AND THEN WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN, OUR REFRIGERATION CONSULTANT, B32.
THAT'S ALL THEY DO IS ICE ARENA DESIGN.
THEY WILL SET UP THAT EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN WITH THE OWNERSHIP GROUP.
MAKING SURE B32 WILL AUDIT THE SYSTEM FOR DESIGN AND INSTALLATION OF THAT SYSTEM.
SO THERE'S THESE CHECKS AND BALANCES ALONG THE WAY.
SO A LOT OF SAFETY FACTORS GO INTO THIS.
IT'S DONE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
WE DO IT IN D-1 COLLEGE FACILITIES PROFESSIONAL FACILITIES AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES LIKE THIS.
I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THIS IS A BY RIGHT SITE PLAN REQUEST, AND THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS OF THE P ONE DISTRICT, BUT ALSO GOING ALL THE WAY BACK HIGH LEVEL TO THE VISION, YOUR VISION AND YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND YOUR GOALS FOR RESPONSIVE AND FISCALLY SOUND GOVERNMENT AND FOR PARKS AND RECREATION OFFERINGS.
AND HOW THIS THIS PROJECT WITH THE P3 APPROACH AND THE TYPE OF RECREATION OFFERINGS THAT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THESE TWO GOALS IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
MOVING ON TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ELEMENTS, STARTING WITH FUTURE LAND USE.
AGAIN, WE'RE MEETING OR EXCEEDING ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICT LDR, AS WELL AS PARKING AND TRAFFIC LEVEL OF SERVICE THROUGH THE OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT, IN THIS FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT POLICY TALKS ABOUT THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT FOR THE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT.
WE HAVE CONCURRENCY FROM SEACOAST FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES, AND AS TOM MENTIONED, FOR DISCOURAGING THE USE OF ADDITIONAL POTABLE WATER THROUGH SOME OF THE RECLAIMED RECLAIMED WATER IN OUR REFRIGERATION SYSTEMS. WE ALSO MEET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR STORMWATER WITH OUR DRY DETENTION AREAS.
AGAIN, THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE, ACTIVE PUBLIC RECREATION CENTER WITH OFFERINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE IN THE CITY, AND THE P3 APPROACH SUPPORTS THE SUPPORTS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT.
GOALS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT.
FIRE RESCUE AND POLICE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVE OUR DEVELOPMENT.
THIS MEETING TONIGHT CONCLUDES THE REQUIRED PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.
A SAMPLING SAMPLING OF THEM ARE LISTED HERE, AND WE DO HAVE SEVERAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FROM THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE, AND WE ARE IN AGREEANCE AND WILL COMPLY WITH ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION FROM OUR PLANNING MANAGER, SAMANTHA MARONEY.
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I'LL BE PROVIDING A PRESENTATION THAT MAY BE SOMEWHAT DUPLICATIVE OF ANGELA'S PRESENTATION, BUT FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, IN OUR THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE PROJECT, STARTING WITH THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT.THE ZONING IS PUBLIC, INSTITUTIONAL, AND THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE.
THERE ARE NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ZONING AND LAND USE DESIGNATIONS OF THIS SITE.
THE SITE ITSELF IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING SITES, ZONING AND LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND EXISTING USES, AND THE PROPOSED USE, WHICH I WILL LAY OUT IN MORE DETAIL, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING ZONING AND LAND USE OF THIS SITE.
I WANT TO GO BACK IN TIME A LITTLE BIT.
BEFORE LOOKING AT THE RECENT HISTORY OF PLANT DRIVE PARK.
IT IS OBVIOUSLY A PARK THAT HAS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
IT'S GONE THROUGH A LOT OF EVOLUTION.
THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT RECREATIONAL AMENITIES AND FACILITIES PROVIDED THERE OVER THE YEARS.
T BALL WAS A BIG FEATURE OF THE PARK PRIOR TO THE SKATE PARK, AND SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TURNOVER OF THE RECREATIONAL AMENITIES THAT ARE PROVIDED. BUT IN RECENT HISTORY, THE PLANT DRIVE PARK HAS ENCOUNTERED EXTENSIVE VANDALISM AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, SO MUCH SO THAT THE RESTROOM BUILDING HAS BEEN LOCKED FOR TWO YEARS TO AVOID ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION.
LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM THE AMENITIES THAT IT DOES PROVIDE, THE SOFTBALL FIELD THAT IS EXISTING AND USED BY THE PALM BEACH GARDENS HIGH SCHOOL IS PROPOSED BY THE CITY'S RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO BE RELOCATED TO THE PALM BEACH GARDENS HIGH SCHOOL SITE, AND THE CITY HAS OFFERED TO RESTORE THE HIGH SCHOOL'S SOFTBALL FIELDS SO THAT THEY CAN USE IT, AS WELL AS RELOCATE THE EXISTING AMANDA BUCKLEY MEMORIAL FROM PLANT DRIVE PARK TO THAT SOFTBALL FIELD.
ALSO, THE RETROFITTED PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE NORTH END OF THE SITE HAVE BEEN FAR REPLACED BY THE 24 PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WERE RECENTLY INSTALLED AT LILAC PARK, JUST NORTH OF THIS.
LOOKING OUT A LITTLE FURTHER BEYOND PLANT DRIVE PARK, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE PARKS WITHIN JUST A MILE OF THIS THAT THE CITY IS VERY PROUD OF AND PROVIDES A MULTITUDE OF PASSIVE AND ACTIVE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
JUST NORTH OF PLANT DRIVE PARK IS THE BURNS ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND PLANNED TO OPEN THIS SPRING WITH NEW AND IMPROVED AMENITIES FOR THE PUBLIC. DOWN THE STREET NEXT TO THE PALM BEACH GARDENS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS IRONWOOD PARK, WHERE THERE'S A RELATIVELY NEW PLAYGROUND FOR KIDS TO USE. AT OAKS PARK, OFF OF BURNS ROAD, THERE'S A BUTTERFLY GARDEN, TENNIS COURTS AND A PAVILION.
SO IT'S JUST IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO NOTE WITHIN THIS VICINITY SOME OF THE OTHER PARK AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE, BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT LILAC PARK, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM PLANT DRIVE PARK.
THERE'S OVER 15 ACRES IN LILAC PARK, AND AGAIN THEY PROVIDE 24 PICKLEBALL COURTS, TWO PLAYGROUNDS, A DOG PARK, A SYSTEM OF WALKING TRAILS, AND TWO PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE CONNECTIONS THAT LEAD TO THE BURNS ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER.
THE CONNECTIVITY FROM LILAC PARK NORTH THROUGH THE BURNS ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER, INTO CITY HALL SITE FOR THE SUNDAY GREEN MARKET, OR TO USE THE BASEBALL PARKS, AS WELL AS FROM LILAC PARK SOUTH TOWARD PLANT DRIVE PARK, OR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY LEADING TOWARD HOLLY DRIVE.
THESE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES ARE A FEATURE THAT IS FUN FOR FAMILIES AND IS A REALLY IMPORTANT CONNECTION BETWEEN RECREATIONAL SITES THAT WE HAVE, AGAIN GOING TOWARD GARDENS PARK BASEBALL FACILITY, LOCATED RIGHT OUT HERE BEHIND CITY HALL, IS AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER P3 PARTNERSHIP THAT IS VERY SIMILAR IN SOME OF THE ITEMS OF THE PROPOSAL.
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AMENITIES. THE AQUATIC COMPLEX.THE STANDARDS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THIS REFERENCE INFORMATION ARE STATEWIDE FLORIDA STANDARDS THAT ARE LOOKED AT AS GUIDELINES, NOT REQUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES. TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A SKATE PARK LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE REQUEST FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL TONIGHT.
THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS ITSELF INCLUDES A THOROUGH REVIEW BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH IS MADE UP OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS PLANNING AND ZONING, ENGINEERING, POLICE, FIRE AS WELL AS SEACOAST UTILITY AUTHORITY FOR WATER AND A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
WITH THAT REVIEW, PRIMARILY, IT'S FOCUSED ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WHICH CONTAIN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND ZONING CODES SPECIFIC TO THE ZONING DISTRICT OF THIS SITE AND THE PROPOSED USE.
AND FROM THERE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHERE WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
THE FIRST STEP OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS WAS TO PERFORM A CONCURRENCY ANALYSIS TO ENSURE THAT NOT ONLY THE EXISTING SITE, BUT ALSO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE IS ABLE TO BE FUNCTIONING, FUNCTIONING AND SAFE WITH THE ADOPTED LEVELS OF SERVICE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.
THE ACCESS ON PLANT DRIVE ON THE SOUTHERN END IS EXIT ONLY.
THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS LOCATED ON LILAC STREET.
IT'S PLACED FAR SOUTH FROM LILAC STREET AND FURTHER WEST ON THE SITE THAN ALONG PLANT DRIVE, SO THE REQUIRED SETBACKS ARE FAR EXCEEDED FOR THIS BUILDING ON ALL SIDES.
TWO DEDICATED TURN LANES ARE BEING PROVIDED WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.
THE RIGHT TURN LANE ON LILAC STREET, WHICH IS NOT REQUIRED PER CODE STANDARDS BASED ON THE TRIPS.
AND THE LEFT TURN LANE ON PLANT DRIVE.
IT'S A COVERED DROP OFF THAT LEADS FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE SITE, AND THEN AROUND THE WEST AND SOUTH SIDES OF THE SITE IS A ONE WAY DRIVE AISLE FOR LOADING, SERVICE, TRASH AND RECYCLING FOR EXIT OUT ONTO PLANT DRIVE.
THE EXISTING FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS ALONG LILAC STREET AND PLANT DRIVE ARE BEING EXPANDED TO EIGHT FEET WIDE AS A REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE FOR RESIDENTS AND NOT ONLY USERS OF THIS SITE, BUT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
THE TURN LANES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED ON PLANT DRIVE AT HOLLY DRIVE ARE A VOLUNTARY.
IMPROVEMENT AT AT THIS LOCATION TO IMPROVE AGAIN NOT ONLY TRAFFIC THAT MAY.
BE RELATED TO THIS SITE, BUT ANY OTHER USERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
PUBLIC ACCESS TO THIS SITE IS PROVIDED THROUGH A VARIETY OF WAYS.
I-95 AND THE TURNPIKE, OF COURSE, ARE LOCATED PRETTY EVENLY SPACED AT PGA.
BOULEVARD AND NORTH LAKE BOULEVARD FROM THIS SITE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL BUS STOPS IN THE VICINITY OF THIS SITE AS WELL, ALONG MILITARY TRAIL AND HOLLY DRIVE, AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, LIKE I MENTIONED, CAN BE ACCOMMODATED FROM HOLLY DRIVE UP TO THE SITE, AS WELL AS THROUGH LILAC PARK, UP THROUGH BURNS ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER AND EVEN TO CITY HALL SITE HERE.
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THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION WAS REVIEWED THROUGH A SITE ASSESSMENT STUDY.THIS GETS REVIEWED BY THE CITY'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND THE CITY ENGINEER.
IT REVIEWS THINGS LIKE THE TRIP GENERATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.
ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS DID NOT PROVIDE TRAFFIC DATA, AND SO THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WERE RECORDED IN THE SUMMER OF 2024 WERE GROWN BY 30% TO ACCOUNT FOR SCHOOLS NOT BEING IN SESSION AND ADJUSTED TO PEAK SEASON FACTORS USING FDOT STANDARDS.
THEY ARE PROVIDING 311 SPACES, AND BASED ON THOSE COMPARISONS TO SIMILAR FACILITIES, THEY ANTICIPATE A MAXIMUM OF OF 281 SPACES BEING USED ON ANY GIVEN WEEKEND AFTERNOON.
AGAIN, THE PARKING IS ALSO REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND THE CITY'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
SO WAYFINDING SIGNAGE IS PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO INDICATE WHERE DROP OFF IS WHEN USERS ARE COMING INTO THE SITE, AS WELL AS DISPERSE TRAFFIC EVENLY AS THEY EXIT THE SITE.
LOOKING AT THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE BUILDING ON THE LEFT IS THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE THE TWO FULL SIZED ICE RINKS AND THE LOCKER ROOMS IN BETWEEN.
THERE'S ALSO A FEW PARTY ROOMS, PRO SHOP AND CONCESSIONS ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING SPACE AND ACADEMY SPACE.
SPEAKING OF THAT RESTAURANT, THE RESTAURANT IS AN ACCESSORY SUPPORT TO THE ICE RINK FACILITY, WHICH IS PERMITTED TO INCLUDE THE ANCILLARY SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR CONSUMPTION ON SITE.
A BAR IS A DIFFERENT USE THAN WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED HERE TONIGHT.
THE DISTANCE LIMITATIONS THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES DO NOT APPLY TO RESTAURANTS THAT PROVIDE MORE THAN 51% OF THEIR SALES FOR FOOD AND NONALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER CITY OWNED FACILITIES RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT SELL ALCOHOL FOR ALCOHOL FOR CONSUMPTION ON SITE, SO IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL FOR AN INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY LIKE THIS, AS WELL AS THE TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL CENTER.
THE SANDHILL CRANE, GOLF COURSE, THE NEST, AND SO ON TO PROVIDE FOR ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION ON SITE.
LOOKING AT THE ARCHITECTURE, IT IS A TWO STORY BUILDING.
AND AS A REFERENCE, THE THIRD STORY OF THE ADJACENT HIGH SCHOOL REACHES JUST ABOUT 60FT.
THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING IS 88,000FT², WITH THE MEZZANINE LEVEL TOTALING 123,000FT².
YOU CAN SEE ON THE EAST PERSPECTIVE VIEW, WHICH IS ALONG PLANT DRIVE.
THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS PROVIDED ON SITE MEETS AND EXCEEDS THE CITY'S CODE IN ALL ASPECTS.
THE OPEN SPACE THAT'S REQUIRED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT IS 15%.
THEY ARE MAINTAINING MANY OF THE MATURE EXISTING OAK TREES ALONG LILAC STREET.
THEY PROVIDE THE BUFFERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CODE ALONG THE PERIMETERS OF THE PROPERTY, AND A MIX OF SPECIES IN TREES, PALMS AND SHRUBS TO PROVIDE A VARIETY AROUND THE SITE AND ACCENT THE BUILDING.
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THERE ARE TWO MONUMENT SIGNS, BOTH OF WHICH MEET THE CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS.ONE LOCATED AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON LILAC STREET AND ONE LOCATED AT THE ENTRANCE ON PLANT DRIVE.
TOM DID A GREAT JOB OF GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
BUT JUST TO REITERATE, SOME OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE AT THIS FACILITY IS RECLAIMED ENERGY, RECLAIMED WATER, THE ELEMENTS THAT THEY'RE USING WITHIN THE BUILDING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ARE SUSTAINABLE, HIGH EFFICIENCY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
AND OF COURSE, REQUIRES COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE FEDERAL, STATE AND COUNTY REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROJECT ITSELF IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE LAND USE IS ALSO INTENDED FOR PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION COMPLEXES SUCH AS THIS.
THE RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT SEEKING PRIVATE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, COORDINATING WITH DEVELOPERS TO AVOID DUPLICATION OF RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, AND MANY OTHER POLICIES THAT ARE PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALL THAT ARE APPLICABLE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THIS PROJECT.
AGAIN, THE INDOOR PUBLIC RECREATION CENTER IS A PERMITTED USE IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
ALL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS RELATED TO THE CIVIC INSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT ARE MET OR EXCEEDED, AND ALL OTHER CODE PROVISIONS THAT EXIST WITHIN CHAPTER 78 OF THE CITY'S CODE HAVE BEEN MET OR EXCEEDED.
MAILERS SENT OUT TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE SITE.
BASED ON THE DRC'S THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE PROJECT, ALL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SATISFIED.
THE BOARD DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF 6 TO 0.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW COMMENT CARDS TONIGHT.
WE YOU PROBABLY WILL HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER WE GET TO LISTEN TO ALL THE COMMENT CARDS.
SO WE'RE MOVING INTO COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC NOW.
AND THIS IS THE SECTION OF OUR MEETING WHERE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF GATHER FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
WE DO NOT DIRECTLY RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSED ISSUES OR ACTION.
ABOVE ALL, MUTUAL RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION IS HOPED FOR AND EXPECTED.
THIS MEETING IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US AND WILL BE CONDUCTED WITH DECORUM.
IF YOU PLAN TO COMMENT PUBLICLY AGAIN, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED.
STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND LET US KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN OR NOT.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT FOR YOU.
MAKE YOUR COMMENTS WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIME, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE MINUTES.
WHEN YOU SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES, KEEP IN MIND THAT ONE MINUTE OF SPEAKING IS 150 WORDS.
SO YOU'RE AIMING FOR ABOUT 300 TO 450 WORDS.
PLEASE DO NOT ADVERTISE OR PROMOTE THE SALE OF PRODUCTS.
PLEASE BE COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL.
PLEASE ALLOW EVERYONE TO COMPLETE THEIR COMMENTS WITHOUT INTERRUPTION, NOISES OR GESTURES.
WE ASK YOU FOR COMMON COURTESY.
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OR PERSONS BEING REMOVED FROM THE MEETING.WE REALLY DO CULTIVATE AND PROTECT THIS ATMOSPHERE, WHERE MEMBERS OF OUR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND TO MUNICIPAL BUSINESS OPENLY, FAIRLY AND RESPECTFULLY WITH POLL PARTICIPATION.
SO WE PLEASE ASK YOU DO NOT DISRUPT THIS MEETING.
WITH THAT, I'LL START CALLING NAMES.
I'LL CALL THE NAME THAT'S ABOUT TO GO AND THE ONE THAT WILL GO AFTER IT.
SO IF YOU'RE THE ONE AFTER, PLEASE BE PREPARED TO COME ON UP FIRST.
I'LL BE CALLING JASMINE TAYLOR.
GOOD EVENING. YOUR NAME, ADDRESS? AND HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE? HI, EVERYONE. I AM JASMINE TAYLOR, 3707 FLORIDA BOULEVARD, PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA.
OKAY. HELLO, MISS CHELSEA REED AND FELLOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY DISCUSS THE GREAT BENEFITS OF AN ICE RINK IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE YEAR ROUND RECREATION.
ICE RINK CAN APPEAL TO ALL AGES, MAKING THEM IDEAL FOR FAMILY OUTINGS.
PALM BEACH GARDENS IS ALREADY A POPULAR TOURIST DESTINATION.
WITH ITS MIX OF RECREATIONAL SPORTS AND EVENT OPPORTUNITIES, AN ICE RINK CAN STIMULATE LOCAL BUSINESSES, DRAWING IN VISITORS WHO MIGHT ALSO SHOP, DINE AND STAY OVERNIGHT IN THE AREA.
OVERALL, AN ICE RINK IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA, WOULD NOT ONLY FILL A RECREATIONAL NEED, BUT ALSO CREATE A VERSATILE, COMMUNITY DRIVEN SPACE FOR FUN, SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE SARAH BROWNING.
AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE NOEL MARTINEZ.
I LIVE AT THREE, EIGHT, SEVEN ONE HOLLY DRIVE IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
TONIGHT. YOU WILL HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OF HOCKEY AND THE ICE RINK.
I'M AFRAID WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS THAT THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
FOR AN ICE RINK THAT WILL DEMOLISH THE QUIET, PEACEFUL CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MORE TRAFFIC AND THE COMMOTION OF A BUSINESS FOR AN ICE RINK THAT CAN GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS UNJUST.
I ASKED THE COUNCIL TO VOTE AGAINST THE ICE RINK COMPLEX AT THE PLANT DRIVE PARK LOCATION.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE NOEL MARTINEZ.
AFTER NOEL MARTINEZ, I'M GOING TO TRY TO READ THIS.
I THINK IT SAYS ANDREW WITH THE LAST NAME W I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.
SO MR. MARTINEZ AND THEN ANDREW W I.
GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR THE RECORD.
NOEL MARTINEZ, 5520 PGA BOULEVARD.
AND WE REPRESENT OVER 800 BUSINESSES FROM WEST PALM BEACH ALL THE WAY UP TO TEQUESTA.
PROPOSED ICE FACILITY PROJECT AT PLANT PARK.
THIS PROJECT HAS THE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A MAJOR ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR OUR REGION.
IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT VISITORS FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR AREA.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO EAT IN OUR RESTAURANTS.
THEY'RE GOING TO SHOP IN OUR STORES, GET GAS IN OUR GAS STATIONS.
THEY'RE GOING TO STAY IN OUR HOTELS.
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THIS FACILITY IS ALSO GOING TO CREATE NUMEROUS JOBS, BOTH DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THROUGH ITS ONGOING OPERATIONS.IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH THAT GROWTH, WE NEED TO CREATE 87,000 JOBS.
REMEMBER THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S FIVE YEARS AWAY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.
THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT ICE SPORTS.
IT'S ABOUT BUILDING A COMMUNITY.
FURTHERMORE, THIS FACILITY SUPPORTS PALM BEACH GARDENS VISION FOR INNOVATION GROWTH.
PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL WORLD CLASS AMENITIES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SIR.
THANK YOU. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE WILL HAVE BLAKE.
AND THE LAST NAME IS SPELLED R E G A.
THANK YOU SIR. YES, I AM ANDREW.
I NEED YOU TO TELL ME YOUR WHOLE NAME, PLEASE, SIR.
WHY CAN'T THEY MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE? MORE OPEN. THE SKATE PARK IS AN ACTIVE ENVIRONMENT, AND THE PEOPLE USE THE BASKETBALL COURT DAILY.
I LEARNED HOW TO RIDE MY BIKE AT THE SKATE PARK.
I LEARNED HOW TO RIDE A SKATEBOARD AT THE SKATE PARK.
I FALL SOMETIMES, BUT I LEARNED HOW TO GET UP FROM IT.
THE THE ICE RINK IS A BAD IDEA IN PLAN DRIVE.
THE KIDS PLAY SPORTS IN THE OPEN FIELD.
THEY PLAY SOCCER, FOOTBALL AND VOLLEYBALL.
THEY CAN'T. WHY CAN'T THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND TEACH THEIR KIDS NEW SPORTS? WHY KICK DOWN FOUR SPORTS FOR ONE SPORT? THE SKATE PARK IS A GREAT TEACHING PLACE FOR KIDS.
IF YOU NEED TO ICE SKATE, DRIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
MOVE THE BUILDING TO A MORE OPEN NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT AT THE GARDEN SKATE PARK.
THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE UNBELIEVABLE AND DISTURBED.
THE SKATE PARK IS A GOOD LEARNING SPACE FOR EVERYONE.
THANK YOU SIR. NEXT WE HAVE BLAKE RIGA.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, ROBERT BECKMAN.
I LIVE AT 4405 RANDOLPH WAY, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
AND THE SKATE PARK. THAT IS RIGHT BY MY SCHOOL.
BUT I'M HERE TO SAY THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
WHEN YOU GO TO PLANT DRIVE PARK, YOU SEE A VIBRANT COMMUNITY FULL OF MOTHERS, GRANDMOTHERS, GRANDCHILDREN, VAST COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE FOR EACH OTHER AND FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
WHEN YOU'RE TAKING OUT A SKATE PARK LIKE THIS, YOU ARE NOT ONLY GETTING RID OF THAT COMMUNITY, BUT YOU ARE DESTROYING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF SKATEBOARDING, SCOOTERING AND EVERY OTHER SPORT THAT YOU CAN DO AT THE SKATE PARK.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND PLANT DRIVE PARK.
YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED, ARE VERY LOW INCOME OR THEY HAVE BROKEN UP HOUSEHOLDS.
YOU CAN GO TO WALMART AND BUY A SKATEBOARD SKATEBOARD FOR 20 BUCKS.
YOU COULD GO TO THE TO THE BASKETBALL AT WALMART AND BUY A BASKETBALL FOR 20 BUCKS.
HOCKEY AND ANY OTHER SPORT PLAYED IN THE HOCKEY RINK IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.
THEREFORE, YOU ARE GETTING RID OF A SAFE AND EFFECTIVE WAY OF MY.
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FAMILY MEMBERS.NOT AS A SKATEBOARDER IN FAVOR JUST BECAUSE I'M A SKATEBOARDER, BUT I'M A HOCKEY FAN AS WELL.
MY BEST FRIEND'S GRANDFATHER PLAYED WITH THE BRUINS IN THE 1970S.
IF WE HAVE ANY BRUINS FANS IN HERE AND I'M A BIG FAN OF THE ANAHEIM DUCKS.
BUT I LOOK AT THE SKATE PARK AND I SEE FAMILY.
EVEN IF IT'S PEOPLE I'VE NEVER MET BEFORE, I SEE FAMILY AND OTHER PEOPLE.
AND IT'S VERY HEARTBREAKING TO SEE PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE THAT FAMILY AWAY FROM ME IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING THAT THE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS CAN MOSTLY ENJOY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
NEXT WE HAVE ROBERT FELDMAN AND AFTER THAT, REBECCA MCEACHERN.
HI, MY NAME IS ROBERT FELDMAN.
I LIVE AT 7755 IRONHORSE BOULEVARD IN WEST PALM BEACH AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER KEEPING PLANT PARK DRIVE THE WAY IT IS.
EVERY SKATE PARK IS DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY AND THIS ONE WAS DESIGNED WELL.
IF THIS ONE IS TAKEN AWAY, THERE WILL NOT BE ANYTHING ELSE WITH AS GOOD AS DESIGN NEARBY.
IT'S ALSO IN PERFECTLY GOOD SHAPE, THE CONCRETE ITSELF.
I'VE HEARD THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF GRAFFITI, BUT IT'S VERY MINIMAL.
THE CONCRETE IS IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.
IF THE ROLES WERE REVERSED AND A SKATE PARK WAS GOING TO BE BUILT ON TOP OF AN ICE RINK THAT PEOPLE LOVED USING, I WOULD HAVE SAID THAT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE A SKATE PARK, BUT THERE HAS TO BE OPEN LAND FURTHER WEST WHERE WE CAN BUILD IT.
I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE ICE RINK, SO I DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM.
NOW. I DON'T WANT TO DRIVE AN EXTRA 12 MILES TO THE WEST.
I JUST COULDN'T IMAGINE FEELING THAT WAY.
EVERYONE HERE WHO TALKS ABOUT BEING IN SUPPORT OF AN ICE RINK KNOW THAT.
I HOPE YOU GET A GREAT PLACE TO ICE SKATE, JUST NOT ON TOP OF AN EXISTING PARK THAT PEOPLE LOVE.
WE HAVE A PETITION WITH OVER 4000 SIGNATURES.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ME WHO FEELS THIS WAY.
EVERYONE HERE IN SUPPORT OF AN ICE RINK ON PLANT DRIVE PARK.
BECAUSE IF THE ROLES WERE REVERSED, I COULDN'T IMAGINE WANTING TO DO THAT.
TO ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
OH. SO, MISS MCEACHERN, THEN, MIKE.
I HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO SAVE IT FOR JUST TWO.
FIRST OFF, I'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR NINE MONTHS.
BUT WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO AND WHY I ORIGINALLY GOT INTO THIS IS BECAUSE OF MY SON.
I GREW UP IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
I WENT TO ALLAMANDA, I WENT TO HAL WATKINS, I WENT TO PALM BEACH GARDENS HIGH SCHOOL.
WE BOUGHT OUR HOME IN PALM BEACH GARDENS AND NOW WE RAISE OUR SON THERE.
HE'S HE'S BACK THERE AND HE'S GOING TO SPEAK LATER.
AND HE FOUND HIS FAMILY, HIS FRIEND, FAMILY AT THE PALM BEACH GARDENS SKATEPARK.
HE TRIED ALL OF THAT TEAM SPORTS.
SKATEBOARDING WAS HIS LOVE, AND THAT'S WHERE HE FELT ALIVE AND HOME.
AND NOW YOU WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY.
IT'S WHERE HE MET EVERY FRIEND HE HAS.
THEY'RE ALL BACK THERE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
THEY'RE ALL HERE TOO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TALK.
WE LIVE DOWN THE STREET. HE GOES TO PALM BEACH GARDENS HIGH SCHOOL NOW.
SO THAT'S MY FIRST POINT, IS HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY MEANS TO SOME OF US.
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IT REALLY DOES TO THEM.TO ME AS A MOM, TO GROWING UP HERE, ALL OF IT.
SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE TECHNICAL.
WE HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.
AND I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE, AND I'M GOING TO BRING IT UP AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S A VERY VALID POINT.
ACCORDING TO PBA'S OWN SUBMISSION TO YOU OR TO THE STAFF IN THEIR OPERATIONS ASSESSMENT, THEY PUT OUT A SCHEDULE, A PROPOSED SCHEDULE.
IT WASN'T THEIRS. THEY WON'T GIVE YOU ONE, BUT IT'S THEIR SAMPLE.
THAT SAID, OUT OF 119 HOURS OPERATING ICE HOURS, NOW, THAT'S THAT'S 119 80S.
BUT HOURS. BUT THAT'S PER RINK.
SO 238 HOURS OF ICE HOURS PER WEEK.
THEY WERE ONLY THIS SCHEDULE ONLY ALLOTTED 13.5 HOURS FOR THE ACTUAL PUBLIC TO COME USE THEIR THEIR THEIR FACILITY. IS THAT FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD? REALLY? REALLY? IT'S NOT.
NOW, THEY SAY THEY MIGHT DO IT, BUT THEY WON'T TELL US.
THEY MIGHT DO MORE, BUT THEY WON'T TELL US WHAT.
SO ALL WE HAVE IS WHAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED SO FAR.
AND AT WHAT COST? NOT ANYTHING REGULAR PEOPLE CAN PROBABLY AFFORD.
IF WE COULD HAVE. MIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE SAPORITO OR SAPORITO.
I'M NOT SURE. FOLLOWED BY NANCY RIMKUNAS.
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NANCY RIMKUNAS.
OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO HELEN BROWN.
ALL RIGHT. AFTER NANCY? YEP. THANK YOU. AFTER NANCY RIMKUNAS.
IF HELEN BROWN COULD BE READY TO COME ON UP SO EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
AND AFTER HELEN BROWN WILL BE MARTIN DE LA TORRE.
GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, NANCY RIMKUNAS AND DON NINE 4121.
ELIXIR. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, MA'AM.
YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR ONE PERSON, JUST YOURSELF.
HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, MA'AM? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THIS HOME FOR 51 YEARS.
MA'AM, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU.
WE'VE BEEN RESIDENTS OF OUR HOME FOR 52 YEARS, AND I AM STRONGLY AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL, A PLAN DRIVE.
THERE'S OBVIOUS TRAFFIC CONGESTION NOW, AND IT'S GOING TO BE WORSE.
PARKING AT LILAC AND PLAN DRIVE IS VERY BAD.
WHEN YOU HAVE THE TWO PARKS COMING TOGETHER AND PLAYING ON THEIR FIELD.
THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT TAKE INTO THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
DRIVE IS DESIGNED TO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OFFERING ACCESSIBLE, WALKABLE SPACE FOR THEIR RESIDENTS.
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD DRAW PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE AND WHICH DIRECTLY CONTRACTS CONTRADICTS THE GOALS OUTLINED IN THE CITY. CONSIDERING THE IMPACT OF JUST WHAT I MENTIONED.
I URGE YOU TO REEVALUATE THE PARKING, THE PLAN, AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
ONE OTHER MR. BARROSO'S CHILDREN GREW UP WITH MY CHILDREN.
HIS CHILDREN AND MY OUR CHILDREN.
MADAM, I APPRECIATE THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN.
TELL US ALL ABOUT ALL RIGHT, THEN I'M DONE.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE HELEN BROWN AND THEN MARTIN DE LATOUR.
AFTER MARTIN DE LATOUR WILL BE DYLAN MACEACHERN.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HELEN BROWN.
I LIVE AT 10162 PLANT DRIVE IN PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA.
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GLASS. SO THAT WOULD BE A BIG CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, AROUND THERE IN A HURRICANE.WE WERE ORIGINALLY TOLD THAT THERE WAS 17, 71 CARS.
IN AND OUT. BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT WHEN KIDS COME TO PLAY HOCKEY, THEY'RE NOT IN AND OUT.
THEY'RE IN, GET DROPPED OFF, THE PARENTS LEAVE, THEN THEY COME BACK AND THEN THEY COME BACK.
SO DOES THAT DOUBLE THAT NUMBER? JUST A QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP.
SO THERE'S NOT RESIDENTS LIVING RIGHT DIRECTLY WHERE THAT IS.
SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT WITHIN A 24 HOUR PERIOD IT IS PROPOSED.
AND MAYBE MAYBE I'M WRONG, MISS REED.
BUT IN A 24 HOUR PERIOD, IT'S PROPOSED THAT 17 OF THOSE HOURS, 6 A.M.
TO 11 P.M., THIS FACILITY WILL BE RUNNING.
AND NOW IT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT THERE IS STAFF THAT HAS TO CLEAN UP AND LEAVE, THE LATE HOURS DIRECTLY CONFLICT WITH THE NEEDS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE CHILDREN ARE TYPICALLY IN BED BY 8 P.M. FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SLIGHTLY AFTER FOR HIGH SCHOOL.
A FEELING OF THAT WE JUST DON'T MATTER.
HOW CAN WE BE EXPECTED TO TO ACCEPT SUCH A DRASTIC SHIFT IN THE QUALITY OF OUR LIFE? WE HAVE A QUIET PARK ACROSS THE STREET THAT CLOSES AT DUSK, 8:00.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN UNTIL 11 P.M.
AND PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT GOING ON, WHICH IS ALSO THE CONFLICT OF OURS.
FROM WHAT I'M HEARING DURING SCHOOL, THAT 1 TO 4, WHEN SCHOOL IS IN AND OUT AND ACTIVITIES, I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT WAS THE SAME PRIME TIME FOR THE HOCKEY RINK, BUT MAYBE I HEARD IT WRONG. THE DOOR WAS OPENING AND CLOSING AND YOU CAN'T HARDLY HEAR OVER THERE.
THOSE ARE THOSE ARE MAINLY MY MY THINGS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP.
I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THAT.
I LIVE 500FT FROM THE FACILITY.
SO AT 11:00 AT NIGHT, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO JUST BE CLOSING.
AFTER MISS BROWN, WE HAVE MARTIN DELATOUR.
AFTER MARTIN DELATOUR WILL BE DYLAN MACEACHERN.
AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE JASON MCCARTY.
GOOD EVENING, MARTIN DE LA TORRE.
I LIVE AT 4601 NORTHWEST SECOND AVENUE IN BOCA RATON.
AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
I HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN ICE SPORTS AND SPECIFICALLY FIGURE SKATING.
WHAT STARTED AS PURELY RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY BECAME A HOBBY, THEN A PASSION, AND FINALLY A CAREER.
AS PALM BEACH, AS A PALM BEACH COUNTY RESIDENT AND THE SKATING DIRECTOR AT PALM BEACH ICE WORKS IN WEST PALM BEACH, I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF TEACHING THOUSANDS OF YOUNG CHILDREN AND ADULTS OVER THE YEARS AND FIRSTHAND AND EXCUSE ME AND KNOW FIRSTHAND THE JOY THAT COMES FROM SEEING BEGINNER SKATERS TURN INTO COMPETITIVE SKATERS AND HOCKEY PLAYERS.
EXCUSE ME. I HAVE SEEN WHAT A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY LIKE THIS CAN DO FOR A COMMUNITY, AND THE STRONG AND LASTING BONDS IT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY CREATE. CHILDREN AND ADULTS FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THIS MAGNIFICENT FACILITY YEAR ROUND AS WE STRIVE AS A SOCIETY TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN ACTIVE AND ENGAGED.
ICE SPORTS CAN CHANGE LIVES AND CREATE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES AS IT DID MINE.
I COMMEND THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION FOR THIS BOLD UNDERTAKING AND THE CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS FOR RECOGNIZING THIS INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO FORGE A PARTNERSHIP THAT WILL BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE FOR DECADES TO COME.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND ALL THE GOOD IT CAN BRING TO THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU MA'AM. I WILL HAVE DYLAN MCKEE, JASON MCCARTY, AND THEN MIKE MARTINO.
BE READY TO COME ON UP SO EVERYONE GETS A TURN.
THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS DYLAN MCEACHERN, AND
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I LIVE AT 40599 HOLLY DRIVE AND I AM SWORN IN.FIRST OFF, MY MOTHER WAS SPEAKING OVER THERE AND SHE POINTED ME OUT AND SHE ALSO SHE SAID, I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE SKATE PARK FOR A LONG TIME AND I WANT TO GO ON ABOUT THAT. I'VE BEEN GOING SINCE I WAS SIX YEARS OLD, OVER TEN YEARS NOW.
I'VE MET ALL OF MY FRIENDS BACK THERE AT THE SKATE PARK, INCLUDING MY GIRLFRIEND.
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I USED TO GO TO THE COMPETITIONS WHEN IT WAS STILL WHEN THEY STILL DID THOSE THERE AND SUPPORTED THE SKATE PARK, AND THOSE ARE THE WERE THE BEST TIMES OF MY LIFE. I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE VANDALISM.
AND I THINK THAT THE VANDALISM TALKED ABOUT WAS DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF THAT.
AS I JUST STARTED DRIVING RECENTLY, A COUPLE LIKE A YEAR AGO AND THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY BAD.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT NONE OF US ARE AGAINST THE ICE RINK.
MAYBE NOT NONE OF US, BUT NOT AT THIS LOCATION.
ALSO, IF THIS GOES THROUGH ACCORDING TO THE CITY PLAN, WE SHOULD GET A NEW SKATE PARK.
WE NEED ONE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE HAVE, WHAT, AROUND 60,000 PEOPLE AND MORE COMING EVERY DAY.
THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WE'LL HAVE JASON MCCARTY, MARK MARTINO, AND THEN HEATHER DYKEMAN.
13520 MACHIAVELLI WAY, PALM BEACH GARDENS.
WE, MY FAMILY AND I MOVED HERE FROM THE NORTHEAST ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO.
SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE IN HOCKEY RINKS.
CHARACTERISTICS I LEARNED WERE TEAMWORK, SPORTSMANSHIP, RESPECT, LEADERSHIP.
AND OUR OLDEST SON IS NOW STARTING THE SAME JOURNEY IN WEST PALM BEACH.
THE CHARACTERISTICS ARE BEING TAUGHT TO HIM WELL AHEAD OF WINNING OR LOSING ANY KIND OF GAMES.
THE REASON WE CHOSE PALM BEACH GARDENS.
WE HAD ORIGINALLY MOVED TO JUPITER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND MOVED FROM THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND IS THE SUPERIOR REC PROGRAMS WERE A BIG REASON WHY WE DID THAT? BASEBALL, BASKETBALL AND SOCCER.
WE WERE COMING FROM JUPITER TO THESE PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE AVAILABLE.
WE'VE HAD OVER HALF OF OUR BASEBALL AND SOCCER CANCELED BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER OR THE RAIN.
AND WHO KNEW THAT EVEN NOW OUR BASKETBALL HAS BEEN CANCELED BECAUSE OF HOW COLD IT IS THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS? THE FACILITY IS NOT JUST ABOUT HOCKEY.
THIS HAS BECOME A FAMILY ACTIVITY FOR ALL OF US TO ENJOY.
THAT'S VERY HARD TO DO ON A SOCCER OR BASEBALL FIELD.
THE NEEDS AND WANTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT WITH THE MASS MIGRATION IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THAT DEMAND IS DRASTICALLY CHANGING.
PEOPLE ARE COMING OVER AN HOUR TO TWO HOUR DRIVE EACH WAY TO THESE FACILITIES.
I HOPE YOU AGREE WITH THIS AND PASS THE RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE MIKE MARTINO.
AFTER MIKE MARTINO, IT'S HEATHER DYKEMAN AND THEN JASON.
I BELIEVE IT'S S E V A L D I'M NOT SURE.
GOOD EVENING SIR. GOOD EVENING.
I LIVE AT 320 BALSAM STREET, PALM BEACH GARDENS.
SIR, HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.
SHALL I START AGAIN? IT'S UP TO YOU. YOUR TIMER IS GOING.
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WE'VE GOT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW FOR.IN 1965, CITY FOUNDER JOHN D MACARTHUR GIFTED OVER EIGHT ACRES OF VACANT LAND ON PLANT DRIVE TO THE YOUNG CITY OF PALM BEACH GARDENS.
IN 1968, MAYOR BOB DIAMOND DEDICATED THOSE SAME EIGHT ACRES TO THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BEACH GARDENS AS PLANT DRIVE PARK.
PLANT DRIVE PARK WAS AND IS THE BIRTHPLACE OF RECREATION AND LEISURE SERVICES IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
ITS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED.
PALM PLANT DRIVE WAS NOT CONCEIVED BY MR. MACARTHUR OR DEDICATED BY MAYOR DIAMOND, TO BE COVERED OVER BY CONCRETE FROM EAST TO WEST AND NORTH TO SOUTH, AS THIS SITE PLAN DOES.
I CAN ASSURE YOU MR. MACARTHUR WOULD FIND A WAY TO RECLAIM HIS GIFT, AND HE AND MAYOR DIAMOND WOULD BE OUTRAGED AND STRONG VOICED OPPONENTS OF THE DEMOLISHMENT OF PLANT LIFE PARK BY THIS SITE.
MANY PROBLEMS ARE ATTACHED TO THIS SITE PLAN, SUCH AS ZONING ISSUES, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, ECOLOGICAL ANSWERS, TRAFFIC NOISE, AND OTHER SITUATIONS.
YOU MUST ADMIT THIS COMMERCIAL INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY DOESN'T FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON RESOLUTION TWO 2025.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A SOLOMON LIKE.
SOLUTION TO ALL THIS CONSTERNATION AND DIFFICULTY.
RELOCATE THE DEVELOPMENT ICE RINK TO THE GARDENS DISTRICT PARK ON CENTRAL BOULEVARD, WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED AND WHERE IT BELONGS. THAT IS A WIN.
COLLECTIVELY, THE ELECTED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL ARE THE POLICY AND DECISION MAKERS.
THE DECISION THAT BEST SERVES ALL THE RESIDENTS.
NEXT WE HAVE HEATHER DYKEMAN AND THEN AND AFTER THAT WE HAVE WILLIAM BONADIES.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY MISPRONUNCIATIONS.
I LIVE AT 3111 GARDENS, EAST DRIVE, PALM BEACH GARDENS.
WE'RE NOT HERE TODAY TO FIGHT AGAINST AN ICE RINK.
ONCE SPACES LIKE PLANT DRIVE PARK ARE DESTROYED AND REPLACED WITH PAVED INFRASTRUCTURE AND LARGE BUILDINGS, IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO EVER GET BACK TO OPEN ACCESS AND OPEN SPACE FOR PASSIVE AND ACTIVE RECREATION THAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AT THE PARK.
THE PARK CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR 98 HOURS A WEEK OF FREE, ACCESSIBLE OUTDOOR SPACE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO MEMBERS TO RECREATE THE ICE COMPLEX WOULD REDUCE THE CURRENT PUBLIC HOURS TO APPROXIMATELY 14 HOURS A WEEK ON AVERAGE.
MOST OF THAT WHEN RESIDENTS ARE IN SCHOOL OR AT WORK, NONE WHATSOEVER FOR FREE.
THE CASE OF PLANT DRIVE PARK IS AN ACTIVE USE SKATE PARK BASKETBALL COURT.
THESE ARE CRITICAL RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH AND ADULTS ALIKE.
KEEPING PEOPLE ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY AND CREATING COMMUNITY.
THERE IS A HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, SO I'LL SKIP AHEAD.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROPOSAL'S STRONG AND GROWING OPPOSITION.
OUR PETITION ON CHANGE.ORG HAS OVER 4000 SIGNATURES, NEARLY 1000 FROM OUR OWN CITY RESIDENTS, AND AN ADDITIONAL 500 FROM NEARBY TOWNS AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS WITHIN 15 MILES OF THE PARK. YOU ALL RECEIVED THAT LAST WEEK OR A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.
YESTERDAY EVENING, I MET A 12 YEAR OLD HOCKEY PLAYER FROM THE BREAKERS YOUTH LEAGUE.
THE LEAGUE, CURRENTLY OWNED BY PBN DONOR AND BOARD MEMBER LARRY ROBBINS.
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HIS FATHER TOLD ME HE SPENT $4,000 LAST YEAR PLAYING IN THAT LEAGUE.HOW DO WE TELL LOCAL FAMILIES THAT THEIR ACCESS TO THEIR CITY PARK WILL COST $80 TO SKATE FOR A FEW HOURS, OR THOUSANDS TO JOIN AND PLAY IN A LEAGUE IN A PARK THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY FOR PUBLIC USE IN PERPETUITY.
BUT I DO WANT TO PUT ONE THING IN THE RECORD.
WE WERE TOLD EARLIER TONIGHT THAT THE MASTER PLAN WAS OUTDATED.
THE COMP PLAN THAT WAS VALIDATED ON APRIL 25TH, 2024 REQUIRES A MASTER OF PARK AND REC PLAN POLICY, 7.1.2.2 THAT IS NOW MISSING FROM THE CITY'S WEB PAGE.
IT WAS THERE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO BECAUSE I DOWNLOADED IT MYSELF.
WHERE IS THE NEW ONE? WHERE IS THE ONE THAT IS PART OF THIS POLICY? IN THE RECORD, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT DOCUMENT SUDDENLY WENT.
IF THAT ONE WAS OUTDATED, THAT WAS THERE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.
IT LOOKS LIKE SEBALD, WILLIAM BONDS AND EVAN EMERSON.
I'M JASON SEBALD. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
I LIVE AT 2633 CHEYENNE CIRCLE, WHICH IS IN WEST PALM BEACH.
HERE AND AND FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS OR SO OF THAT, I'VE BEEN A HOCKEY DAD AS WELL.
I'M HERE, OBVIOUSLY, IN SUPPORT OF THE ICE RINK AND THE HOCKEY PROGRAM.
I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS ALSO BROADENED HIS EXPERIENCE AND HORIZONS.
WE COULD SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW HE'S PLAYED WITH HOCKEY PLAYERS FROM THE CZECH REPUBLIC TO CANADA TO JAPAN, AND HOW THAT HAS BROADENED HIS HORIZONS AS A YOUNG PERSON GOING OFF TO COLLEGE AND BEYOND.
AS A PHYSICIAN, I CAN SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT SAFETY, RECREATION AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.
I'VE SERVED BOTH ON THE BENCH AND BEEN IN THE RINK THROUGHOUT THESE 14 YEARS.
MONITORING FOR SIGNS OF INJURIES AND FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PLAYERS, AND CAN TELL YOU THAT ABSOLUTELY, BETWEEN THE COACHING THAT IS PROVIDED AND THE USA HOCKEY PROGRAM, THE WAY THEY DESIGN THEIR PROGRAMS AND THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE THE GAME TAUGHT AND REF NOW THAT WHILE IT IS A SPORT AND A CONTACT SPORT, THEY HAVE MADE IT AS SAFE AS IT CAN POSSIBLY BE.
REGARDING A PHYSICAL CONTACT SPORT, IT IS SAFER THAN FOOTBALL.
IT IS SAFER THAN, IN MY OPINION, LACROSSE.
IT IS SAFER THAN MANY OF THE OTHER CONTACT SPORTS THAT ARE PLAYED AT THIS AGE.
AND THAT'S THROUGH BOTH AGAIN, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND EXPERIENCE AS A PHYSICIAN.
IN THE MEANTIME, THOUGH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH THE EXPERIENCE OF DOING AND PERFORMING ICE RELATED ACTIVITIES HELPS PEOPLE WITH THEIR HEALTH AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, AND THIS ICE RINK OR THESE ICE RINKS WOULD PROVIDE THAT NOT ONLY FOR YOUTH HOCKEY PROGRAMS, BUT YOUTH SKATERS OF ALL AGES AND GENDERS.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT YOUTH HOCKEY, IT'S ALSO ABOUT FIGURE SKATING AND THE CURLING.
IT'S ABOUT LUNCHTIME SKATING PROGRAMS. IT BRINGS PHYSICAL ACTIVITY IN A STRUCTURED, CONTROLLED, MANAGED ENVIRONMENT TO PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND WILL THEREFORE PROVIDE A GREAT BENEFIT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE.
GOOD EVENING. I'M IN SWORN IN.
I LIVE AT 4401 DAFFODIL CIRCLE SOUTH.
AND THE PROPOSAL DOCUMENT SPL SPL PLN 24 0705 UNDER SITE INFORMATION JUSTIFICATION.
THERE WILL NOT BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC OR NOISE.
NOW WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT? THE DOCUMENT GOES ON WITH A DETAILED TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT OF THE PROJECT AREA.
IT REFERENCES A SIMILAR SITE, ICE DEN IN SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA.
FROM THEIR WEBSITE. THEIR STAFF HAS 10 TO 50 PERSONS.
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SO IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO ASSUME 20 OR MAYBE MORE WOULD BE NECESSARY TO MANAGE THE PROPOSED BUILDING FOR MAINTENANCE.RESTAURANT WORKERS, TRAINERS, ETC..
TO 11 P.M. DAILY, PROBABLY IN TWO SHIFTS.
THERE TRAFFIC WOULD BE 20 CARS IN, 20 CARS OUT FOR SHIFT CHANGE AND 20 CARS IN AND 20 CARS OUT FOR A TOTAL OF 80 TRIPS EVERY SINGLE DAY, LIKELY ON LILAC SINCE IT IS THE MOST DIRECT ROUTE.
THE ANALYSIS WENT ON TO PROJECT 200 DURING WEEKEND SESSIONS.
SO LET'S SAY 100 CARS IN, 100 CARS OUT AND THE STUDY SHOWED LILAC AT 60% OF THE TIME.
SO THE TOTAL 120 TRIPS ADDED TO THE WORKERS, 200 TRIPS PER DAY.
NOW, IF YOU ASK SOMEONE ON LILAC, WHICH HAS SOME 30 ENTRANCE DRIVEWAYS, IF ADDING 200 OR 100 MORE DAILY CAR TRIPS IS SIGNIFICANT, WHAT WOULD THEIR ANSWER BE? THE ANALYSIS DID NOT CONSIDER THE HUMAN FACTOR FOR ITS TRAFFIC ASSESSMENTS.
RESIDENTS WERE NOT SURVEYED ABOUT POSSIBLE TRAFFIC INCREASES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU THEY WERE GOING TO INCREASE VEHICLE TRAFFIC IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BY 100 OR 80 TRIPS PER DAY? WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE? SO THE PROPOSAL FAILS ITS JUSTIFICATION STATEMENT.
THIS INCREASED TRAFFIC IS FROM A BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S AN EXCELLENT FACILITY, BUT NOT IN THIS LOCATION.
THEN JOEY EICHNER, AND AFTER THAT, PAUL CAMERON.
JOEY'S NOT HERE. IS HE STILL HERE? OH, YEAH. GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
AND, YES, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
THE ISSUE TODAY ISN'T ABOUT SKATING VERSUS HOCKEY.
IT'S ABOUT THE EFFECTS THE FACILITY WILL HAVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LOSS OF A FREE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN FAVOR OF A FACILITY THAT HOSTS COSTLY ACTIVITIES.
THE ISSUE IS PUTTING A COMMERCIAL FACILITY IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT PLANT DRIVE PARK RANKS SEVENTH IN CRIME OUT OF ALL CITY PARKS.
SO THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY CLAIM IS A BASELESS CLAIM.
I MUST ASK YOU ONCE AGAIN TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS AS YOU VOTE.
WHY IS THIS THE CHOSEN LOCATION? WHY PUT A COMMERCIAL FACILITY IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA? OBVIOUSLY PB AND F DID NOT IDENTIFY THIS LOCATION ON THEIR OWN AS STATED IN THEIR OWN PROPOSAL.
THIS IS A IS A HISTORIC PARK WITH A RICH HISTORY.
ONCE IT'S TORN DOWN, IT CAN'T BE BUILT BACK.
NEXT QUESTION. HOW WILL THIS SERVE OUR COMMUNITY? HOW DOES TAKING AWAY A FREE SPACE WITH MULTIPLE USES SERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THIS PARK IS THE CLOSEST FREE AND OPEN SPACE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS OF ALL AGES TO PLAY AND PARTICIPATE IN MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES WITHOUT HAVING TO CROSS MAJOR INTERSECTIONS. I HAVE NOT HEARD A SINGLE REASON AS TO HOW THIS ICE RINK WILL BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUTSIDE OF BLANKET CLAIMS OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND THERE BEING A NEED FOR A CLOSER ICE SKATING RINK THAT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? AGAIN, WE AREN'T OPPOSED TO HOCKEY OR ICE SKATING OR THE RINK.
I AGAIN CAUTION YOU THAT APPROVING THIS PLAN SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT, THAT ALL OPEN SPACE AND PARKS IN THE CITY ARE UP FOR SALE TO DEVELOPERS. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS AND FIND A BETTER LOCATION.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE JOEY EICHNER.
AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE PAUL CAMERON AND THEN ZAHARA ROWLAND.
GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF.
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YES, I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.MY NAME IS JOEY EICHNER, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PETER.
YOUR ADDRESS. YOU GOT ALL THE REST OF IT? JUST NEED YOUR ADDRESS.
NO PROBLEM. 4041 VIA VERONA IN PALM BEACH AND PGA NATIONAL.
I'M HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PGA CHARTER ASSOCIATION GROUP OF LOCAL BUSINESS LEADERS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND NOW CELEBRATING OUR 25TH YEAR OF SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY.
WHILE THE ASSOCIATION DOES NOT ENDORSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, WE ARE ACTIVE IN EVALUATING AND PROMOTING POLICY ISSUES THAT ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR MISSION. THE PGA CORRIDOR ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND BELIEVES THAT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS HELP FOSTER THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH IT FEELS WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN A MANNER THAT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR RECREATION, SPORTS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FURTHERING OUR MISSION AND WILL BENEFIT BOTH BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. HAVING DEVELOPED HAVING BEEN A DEVELOPER AND DEVELOPING IN PALM BEACH GARDENS FOR THE PAST 35 YEARS, I CAN ATTEST THAT THE CITY DOES HEAR WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAYING AND THEY HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
THEY DO ON EVERY ONE OF MY PROJECTS AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE HERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND WE DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE PAUL CAMERON.
AND THEN AGAIN I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY MISPRONUNCIATIONS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE ROLAND OR ROWLAND AND THEN BJORN VANDER VANDER LINDEN.
I KNOW YOU'LL TELL ME HOW TO SAY IT, BUT, MR. CAMERON, PLEASE COME ON UP.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
PAUL CAMERON, 207 BENT TREE DRIVE, SUNNY PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA.
33418. AND YES, I'VE BEEN SWORN THEN I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY FROM THE ONSET, I AM ALL FOR A HOCKEY RINK IN PALM BEACH GARDENS AND HOCKEY IS A GOOD, WHOLESOME SPORT.
DON'T. DON'T GET MR. GRETZKY ON ME.
BUT AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, IN THIS ROOM, IT DOESN'T BELONG WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING IT.
THE PROPOSAL THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WOULD EFFECTIVELY TAKE AWAY FROM THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN AND DO, USE AND OFFER THEM NOTHING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO USE IN RETURN.
RIGHT. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT LOOKING AFTER WE THE PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M WITH THE WE THE PEOPLE TONIGHT.
YOU HAVE A SPACE UP IN THE NORTH COUNTY THAT THEY'VE CLEARED THE LAND.
THEY'RE HEADING TOWARDS PUTTING A TIN SHACK THERE.
PARDON THE LANGUAGE. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
IT'S A STEEL BUILDING, WHICH I'M NOT A FRIEND OF, BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE DESIGN OF THIS.
THE WHOLE NORTH COUNTY FACILITY IS IS IS DEVOTED TO LEAGUE SPORTS.
HOCKEY OR SOCCER? SORRY, SOCCER AND VARIOUS OTHER SPORTS.
IT WOULD BE A PERFECT FIT FOR THE NORTH COUNTY.
YOU GOT A NEW INTERCHANGE GOING TO I-95 HALF MILE FROM THE FACILITY, AND YOU GOT THE TURNPIKE A HALF MILE FROM THE FACILITY.
IT'S A YOU KNOW, IT'S A WIN WIN IF YOU PUT IT THERE.
ROWLAND. AND THEN BRANDON ROGERS.
WILL YOU HELP ME WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE? ZACHARIAH. ROWLAND.
THANK YOU. OKAY. I CANNOT, I HAVE HORRIBLE HANDWRITING.
IT'S OKAY. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING IT.
WELL, THANKS FOR SUPPORTING EVERYBODY.
I LIVE AT 5453 QUEEN SHIP COURT.
GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
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I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT HOCKEY HAS MADE ON MY LIFE.NOT JUST MY LIFE, BUT MY FAMILY'S.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO SAY THIS WITHOUT CRYING.
ALL FOUR OF OUR BABIES ARE ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM, AND FOR A GOOD MAJORITY OF THEIR LIFE THEY HAVE BEEN TOP DOWN, PUT DOWN, PICKED ON AND INCLUDING AT THE RECREATIONAL FACILITY, INCLUDING AT THE PARK.
I WANT TO TRY TO SAY THIS WITHOUT CRYING.
I APOLOGIZE. TWO OF MY BOYS FELL INTO A DEEP DEPRESSION AND ONE BECAME NONVERBAL.
AND ALSO, I HAD TO ADMIT, ONE DUE TO SUICIDE.
THANK YOU. THAT GAVE MY BOYS A HOME.
THEY GAVE THE BOYS A LIGHT AND GAVE A SPARK BACK IN THEIR HEART.
HOCKEY HAS HONESTLY SAVED MY BOYS AND IT HAS PUT MY FAMILY BACK TOGETHER.
AND IT HAS MADE SUCH A DEEP IMPACT.
AND I JUST WANT TO GO FOR THE RECORD.
I'M BROKE. I AIN'T GOT NO MONEY.
AND I STILL AIN'T GOT NO MONEY.
THEY THEY HAVE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR US.
AND I KNOW THEY WILL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT AND THANK YOU.
PLEASE DON'T CLAP. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR, FOR YOUR SERVICE.
OKAY. I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME.
IF YOU COULD HELP ME WITH THAT.
THANK YOU SIR. IF YOU COULD COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME.
AND IF YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, BJORN MIDDLEBROOK 33000 PORTOFINO CIRCLE, 101 PALM BEACH GARDENS.
I'VE BEEN STANDING HERE THREE MONTHS AGO ON AUGUST AND OCTOBER.
AND I GIVE SEVERAL REASONS I APOLOGIZE.
HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, SIR? I AM SWORN IN. YES.
I'M SORRY. SO I GAVE CERTAIN REASONS WHY I THINK THE PROJECT IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOCKEY THAT IS GROWING IN FLORIDA.
MR. WINTERS ALREADY GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE NUMBERS ON THAT ONE.
AND I ALSO EXPLAINED MY PERSONAL SITUATION THAT I MOVED FROM FORT LAUDERDALE BACK TO PALM BEACH GARDENS, NOT ONLY FOR HOCKEY, BUT HOCKEY WAS ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ME AND MY WIFE TOOK THE DECISION TO MOVE UP WITH THREE BOYS, BOTH ALL PLAYING, PLAYING HOCKEY.
THE REASON WHY I WANT TO ASK MY THREE MINUTES AGAIN WAS THERE IS A BIG ASSET, I THINK, LINKED TO THE PROJECT THAT GOES BEYOND THE RATIONAL, BEYOND BEYOND THE FINANCIAL PLANNING, BEYOND THE PLANNING THAT YOU SAW FROM YOUR FROM YOUR CITY HALL.
SO THEY ACTUALLY THE FIRST THING THAT THEY, THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY TOOK OVER THE PALM BEACH ICE RINK, WAS BUILDING A LOUNGE WHERE KIDS AND PARENTS COULD CONNECT, TALK AND JUST HAVING AND TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY DID.
THE SECOND EXAMPLE ON HOW THEY HELP CONNECT COMMUNITIES IS WATCHING EVERY KID TO SEE WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY NEED, AND INDIVIDUALIZE EVERY PROGRAM WITHOUT PARENTS CHIPPING IN MORE MONEY TO HAVE IT HAPPEN.
SO THEY REALLY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW TO DEVELOP THE KIDS MUCH BETTER.
AND THE LAST EXAMPLE I WANT TO GIVE FROM A PERSONAL NOTE HANDLING THREE BOYS.
YOU HEAR MY ACCENT. I'M NOT FROM HERE.
I GOT ONE KID IN TAMPA PLAYING.
THE OTHER ONE WAS IN NAPLES, AND THEY ACTUALLY ONE OF THE PERSON THAT IS PUSHING FOR THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY HELPED OUT BY TAKING ONE OF MY KIDS TO THE RINK TO PLAY HOCKEY. THOSE ARE ALL EXAMPLES TO SHOW THAT THIS IS MORE THAN JUST RATIONAL DATA.
IT'S ACTUALLY CONNECTING THE PEOPLE.
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AND I THINK SO THAT'S WHY I'M ACTUALLY A BIG FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL VOTE YES.THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE BRANDON ROGERS.
I'M SORRY I CAN'T READ YOUR HANDWRITING FOR YOUR LAST NAME.
IT LOOKS LIKE A IT COULD BE CARLO SOMETHING.
OKAY, WE'LL GET TO THAT. BUT WE'VE GOT BRANDON ROGERS AND THEN ALEXANDER.
I LIVE AT 13559 ARTISAN CIRCLE, PALM BEACH GARDENS.
SO, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS ONCE AGAIN.
HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN? I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
SORRY, BUT TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
I MOVED HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO FROM JACKSONVILLE TO PALM BEACH GARDENS WITH MY FAMILY.
I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ONE OF THE EIGHT EU COACHES, SO HOCKEY PLAYS A BIG PART IN OUR LIVES, AND IT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND A BIG COMMITMENT THAT WE MAKE. I ALSO I GREW UP IN THE NORTHEAST.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, HOCKEY WAS ABUNDANT.
OPPORTUNITIES IN ICE ARENAS WERE EVERYWHERE.
I HAD A RINK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD GROWING UP IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND I PLAYED MY WHOLE LIFE.
THEY'RE THE SAME LIFE LESSONS THAT I WANT THE REST OF THE KIDS IN THE BREAKERS TO HAVE ACCESS TO.
THEY'RE THE SAME LIFE LESSONS THAT I WANT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF CHILDREN TO HAVE ACCESS TO.
HOCKEY'S A HARD SPORT, BUT IT'S A UNIQUE SPORT AND IT'S A GREAT TEACHER OF LEADERSHIP, OF COMMITMENT, OF PERSEVERANCE, OF HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, OF TEAMWORK.
AND TO ME, THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT HOCKEY FAMILIES.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT FIGURE SKATING FAMILIES.
AND THE REASON I MENTIONED MOVING FROM JACKSONVILLE IS THAT JACKSONVILLE IS A COUPLE OF YEARS AHEAD OF US IN TERMS OF THEY'VE BUILT TWO NEW RINKS TWO YEARS AGO, AND I SAW FIRSTHAND THE IMPACT THAT HAD.
AND THERE WOULD BE PUBLIC SKATING.
THERE WOULD BE A LINE OF PEOPLE DOWN THE BLOCK AND AROUND THE CORNER.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY WE ALL HAVE.
AND I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US, AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL SEE THE VALUE IN WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT, THAT NOT ONLY WILL THIS BENEFIT OUR KIDS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM, OUR KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY TODAY, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AND I THINK THE ONUS IS ON US TO ENABLE US TO HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON FUTURE GENERATIONS.
SO TIME IS UP AND I THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE ALEXANDER.
THANK YOU. AFTER THAT WE'LL HAVE VINCENT ALVAREZ AND THEN LANDON WORLEY.
OKAY. SO WE'LL ASSUME HE'S NOT COMING UP.
VINCENT ALVAREZ, ARE YOU HERE? WHAT? VINCENT, WHAT IS IT? I WENT AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE.
OH, NO. THEY DIDN'T COME TO THE MICROPHONE, SIR.
SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP IF YOU'D LIKE.
AFTER THAT, WE WILL HAVE LANDON WORLEY AND THEN MARK MARCIANO.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR THE PAST 56 YEARS.
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY OBJECTION.
I APOLOGIZE. I GOT A YES, I DID.
WHEN WE MOVED HERE IN 1969, PLANT DRIVE PARK WAS THE CENTER OF ACTIVITY IN PALM BEACH GARDENS.
THERE WAS A MUCH WEST OF MILITARY TRAIL, AND THERE WAS A MUCH NORTH OF PGA.
MY TWO SONS AND DAUGHTER, WHO WAS BORN AT PALM BEACH GARDENS HOSPITAL, WOULD WALK, RIDE THEIR BIKES AND EVENTUALLY DRIVE TO PLANT, DRIVE TO PLAY SPORTS OR SIMPLY HANG OUT.
THEY STARTED IN T-BALL, MOVED TO BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL, ALL AT PLANT DRIVE.
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MY WIFE AND I WERE SUPPORTIVE PARENTS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE PALM BEACH GARDENS YOUTH ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION AT THE TIME, AND WE WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT PLANT DRIVE. BUT THAT WAS THEN, AND THIS IS NOW.AS THE CITY GREW BIGGER AND BETTER, FACILITIES WERE BUILT IN THE MORE AFFLUENT SECTIONS OF THE CITY.
BUT PLANT DRIVE REMAINED AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
MY POINT OF CONTENTION, AS MANY HAVE SAID, IS THE CITY IS PLANNING TO SQUEEZE A COMMERCIAL FACILITY INTO A SMALL RESIDENTIAL LOCATION, REPLACING A FREE TO PLAY PARK WITH A PAY TO PLAY VENUE.
THE ICE RINK, SHOEHORNED BETWEEN A CHURCH, THE HIGH SCHOOL AND SMALL RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES, WILL NOT CATER TO THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INSTEAD WILL ATTRACT MOST OF ITS CUSTOMERS FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY.
OR URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO REJECT THE PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE ICE RINK AND FIND THAT A MORE SUITABLE LOCATION THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE ITS EXPECTED CUSTOMER TRAFFIC. I ALSO URGE THE COUNCIL TO UPGRADE PLANT DRIVE PARK TO SERVE ITS LOCAL RESIDENTS.
WE PAY TAXES, WE VOTE, AND WE DESERVE YOUR SUPPORT.
RESPECTFULLY. VINCE ALVAREZ, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SIR. NEXT WE'LL HAVE LANDON WORLEY AND AFTER THAT, MARK MARCIANO.
HI. MY NAME IS LANDON WORLEY, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
I LIVE AT 16, 14, 16 TERRACE PALM BEACH GARDENS.
I'VE BEEN SKATEBOARDING MY WHOLE LIFE.
SKATEBOARDING IS THE BEST THING THAT'S EVER HAPPENED TO ME.
I WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD WHEN I STARTED SKATEBOARDING, AND GROWING UP IN THIS AREA, THERE WAS NOT MANY SKATE PARKS IN OUR AREA YOU EITHER HAD TO PAY MONEY TO SKATE AT THE JUPITER SKATE PARK IN ABACOA, OR YOU HAD TO SKATE AT GARDEN SKATE PARK, WHICH WAS THE FREE SKATE PARK.
GARDENS WAS ALWAYS THE CHOICE.
IT WAS THE ONLY FREE SKATE PARK IN OUR AREA, AND IT BRINGS SO MANY PEOPLE TOGETHER AND TEACHES YOU HOW TO BE STRONG AND THAT WHEN YOU FALL, YOU HAVE TO GET BACK UP AND TRY AGAIN. I'M SORRY I HAVE TO GET BACK UP AND TRY AGAIN UNTIL YOU GET IT RIGHT.
I WANTED TO SHARE HOW MUCH THE SKATEPARK MEANS TO ME AND ALL MY FRIENDS AND SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE.
IT HAS BROUGHT SO MANY POSITIVE CONNECTIONS AND SO MANY MEMORIES AND SO MANY PEOPLE.
IT STILL DOES TO THIS VERY MOMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MARK MARCIANO, TEN SHELDRAKE LANE, PALM BEACH GARDENS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
YOU'VE HEARD THE STORIES, AND I THINK YOU ALL WOULD AGREE.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON IS GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT CARE, THAT WANT TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THIS PARK IS GOING TO DO FOR THE FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THIS GROUP OF RESIDENTS VERSUS THAT GROUP OF RESIDENTS.
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CITY.
WHAT'S BEST FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY, BOTH TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE.
YOU CAN ONLY GO BACK TEN PLUS YEARS AGO, WHEN THIS ROOM WAS FULL OF PEOPLE WITH RED SHIRTS ON, THERE WAS A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT REMEMBER THAT TIME I WAS NOT ON THE COUNCIL, I WAS NOT ON THE DAIS.
AND THEIR CONCERN AND THEIR CONCERN WAS ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH SHADY LAKES DRIVE.
WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH GARDENS DISTRICT PARK AND HOW THAT WAS GOING TO IMPACT THAT REGION AS WELL? RESIDENTS WERE VERY UPSET.
THEY CREATED A PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC WAS MITIGATED.
AND I THINK IF YOU ASK THOSE RESIDENTS TODAY, THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT, YES, WE WERE CONCERNED, BUT WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT THE PARK IS HERE BECAUSE IT DID IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES AND IT DID PROVIDE AMENITIES TO THEM.
PLANT DRIVE PARK IS A IS AN OLDER PARK OF THE CITY.
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ENOUGH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO VISIT IT.AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER.
I DON'T WANT THE RESIDENTS HERE THINKING THAT YOU ARE IGNORING THEM.
I AM NOT A PAID MEMBER ON THE BOARD.
I AM NOT A LOBBYIST FOR THE FOR THE PALM BEACH NORTH ATHLETIC FOUNDATION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT IS THE END OF OUR COMMENT CARD.
SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
MAY I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION TWO 2025 PLEASE.
MADAM MAYOR, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION TWO 2025? NOTED. SECOND.
THANK YOU. LET'S HAVE A BIT OF A DISCUSSION, SHALL WE? YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THE FACILITY ITSELF.
TRAFFIC THINGS THAT PEOPLE BROUGHT UP.
HURRICANE WINDOWS. SO, TOM, MAYBE CAN YOU COME UP AND WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUILDING STRUCTURE? AND THEN FROM MY STANDPOINT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOCKEY.
I NEVER PLAYED IT. SO ARE THE RINKS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RINKS? ARE THEY FROZEN? IS IT ALWAYS FROZEN? ARE THEY DRAINED AT NIGHT? HOW DOES ALL THE PROCESS WORK? SURE. IF YOU COULD JUST GO INTO SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
FIRST OFF, I'LL HANDLE THE HURRICANE SIDE OF THINGS.
IT'S DESIGNED AROUND ALL THE HURRICANE CODES.
THE GLASS HURRICANE, YOU KNOW, PROOF.
THE WALL PANELS, THE ROOF STRUCTURE.
IT'S ALL DESIGNED AROUND 180 MILE AN HOUR WINDS AT THREE SECOND BURSTS.
SO THAT'S THE TECHNICAL THING.
THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS DESIGNED TO.
SO IT MEETS ALL THOSE CODES AS FAR AS THE ICE.
EACH ONE IS 85 BY 200, WHICH IS AN NHL REGULAR, YOU KNOW, REGULATION SIZE.
AND THE ICE STAYS IN IT NEVER.
IT DOESN'T COME OUT. IT DOESN'T COME OUT.
NO. AND WHAT WE DO IS WE ENGINEER THE SYSTEM TO HAVE BETWEEN ONE AND 1.25IN OF ICE ON IT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OPTIMAL ICE THAT WORKS FOR PERFORMANCE SKATING, FIGURE SKATING, HOCKEY, BUT ALSO IS THE MOST ENERGY EFFICIENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, THAT THERE'S NOT 900 TRIPS A DAY OR HOW IS THIS SPREAD OUT OR WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE ON THE ON THE PEAK TIMES, LET'S SAY AFTER SCHOOL.
LET'S KIND OF GO OVER THAT CHART AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT MORE IF WE COULD PLEASE.
OKAY. SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE PEAK TIMES AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THE PEAK TIMES FOR OUR, OUR USE IS GOING TO BE 4 TO 11 P.M.
SO THAT DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH THE PEAK TIMES OF THE SCHOOL.
AS FAR AS THE THE TRIPS AND THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT AGAIN USING THAT ITE TRIP GENERATION MANUAL, THAT'S A VERY EVERY MUNICIPALITY USES THAT AND LOOKS TO THE ITE TO ESTABLISH THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT A USE IS GENERATING.
AND THEY DO THAT BECAUSE THE IT IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
IT IS AN ESTIMATE THAT IS INCLUDING THE WHAT I WOULD CALL A WORST CASE SCENARIO.
SO THOSE 900 NOT TRIPS, BUT THE 900 VEHICLES, THE 1800 TRIPS THAT'S ON YOUR HIGHEST USE DAY.
SO THAT'S THAT'S CONSIDER THAT A TOURNAMENT DAY.
OR CONSIDER THAT A DAY WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST TRAFFIC.
THAT IS NOT THE DAILY NORMAL OF OF WHAT ONE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE.
IT IS CALCULATED TO BE SPREAD OUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE 24 HOUR PERIOD.
AND IT IS CORRECT THAT IT IS ONE CAR IN THAT'S A TRIP, ONE CAR OUT THAT IS A TRIP.
SO THAT IS BAKED INTO THOSE NUMBERS.
AND AGAIN IT IS A WORST CASE KIND OF THAT WORST CASE SCENARIO.
WHAT ONE WOULD EXPECT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS DOES THE CASE STUDIES TAKE INTO EFFECT DROP OFFS, OR ARE THESE PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE PARENTS WILL COME, STAY AND STAY AND THEN LEAVE AFTER WHATEVER IS OVER.
THEN THEY DEPART. I DON'T I GUESS I DON'T SPECIFICALLY HAVE THE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE WAY THIS SITE OPERATES AND WITH THE DROP OFFS AND WITH THE TOURNAMENTS IS SIMILAR TO THE CASE STUDIES THAT IT WOULD BE USING.
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I WAS TRYING TO JUST DO A COMPARISON IN MY HEAD WITH REGARDS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL IN THE MORNING WHEN THE TRAFFIC STARTS AT 715, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH DONE BY 745. I DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT GO INTO THAT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S 15 OR 20 BUSSES WITH A BUS LOOP THAT'S ALSO ON HOLLY DRIVE, SO I KNOW IT'S A PRETTY ACTIVE AREA, BUT TENDS TO DISPERSE PRETTY WELL AS PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.DROPPING OFF KIDS, AS I HAD DONE THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT FIGURE IN MY HEAD.
A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, ABOUT EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS, ARE THE EVENTS GOING TO BE COORDINATED WITH THE REST OF THE CITY FOR ANY OTHER EVENTS THAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL SO THAT THEY DON'T INTERACT WITH ONE ANOTHER AND THERE CAN BE EXTRA, YOU KNOW, SECURITY THERE, OR TRAFFIC CONTROL AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT COMING IN AND OUT.
YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY SEVERAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE ADDRESSED.
SO WE ARE AND WILL BE COORDINATING OUR EVENTS WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL AND WITH OTHER CITY EVENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THOSE ARE COORDINATED WITH THOSE SCHEDULES.
SO, YOU KNOW, TO GO OUT THERE TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC, TO SEE HOW THE PARKING IS WORKING, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THAT IT IS THINGS ARE MOVING SAFELY AND AS WE BELIEVE THEY WILL. PER OUR OPERATIONAL PLAN.
BUT SHOULD THERE BE A CASE WHERE THINGS ARE NOT OPERATING AS SMOOTHLY AS WE OR THE CITY WOULD LIKE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REGROUP AND ADDRESS THOSE SO THAT THERE IS SOME MONITORING THAT IS IS PART OF THOSE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
I LIKE THAT THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PROACTIVE WITH THE TURN LANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
HOW HOW IS CONSTRUCTION, HOW WOULD CONSTRUCTION BE, YOU KNOW, WOULD THE RESIDENTS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH CONSTRUCTION? CAN YOU. YEAH, MAYBE HELP WITH THAT? I MEAN, WE WILL HAVE MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC PLANS AND BE COORDINATING WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
SO I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET.
BUT THAT WILL BE PART OF THE THE SUBMITTALS AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
OKAY. LAND USE, CAN SOMEONE ADDRESS THE LAND USE AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL GREEN SPACE AND WHAT IT IS PARTICULAR TO THIS PROJECT? I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I HEARD WE HEARD A COUPLE COMMENTS TONIGHT THAT REFERRING TO THIS AS A COMMERCIAL OPERATION, THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL OPERATION.
THIS IS A PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY.
WE ARE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED. WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN IN THE ROOM.
SO. SO THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL ICE RINK FACILITY.
SO THAT IS A MISUNDERSTANDING OR MISAPPROPRIATION OF THAT WORD.
IT WOULD BE THE PERSON OPERATING THE RESTAURANT.
IS THAT CORRECT? CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? THE LICENSE FOR ALCOHOL SALES WILL BE THROUGH THE STATE.
OKAY. AND AND IT IS A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT.
THE POLICY PLAN THAT WAS NATALIE, THAT WAS OR THAT WAS TAKEN OFF THE WEBSITE RECENTLY.
CAN CAN YOU TALK TO THAT AND WHAT THAT THAT WAS AND WHY IT WAS TAKEN DOWN.
AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S GOING ON NOW AND WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE? YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.
THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED THAT WAS SHOWN SPECIFICALLY IN STAFF'S PRESENTATION WAS MEANT TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT WE HAD HEARD AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING THAT THERE IS A SKATE SKATE PARK REQUIREMENT.
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IT IS AN OBSOLETE DOCUMENT.THAT DOCUMENT WAS FROM THE DATA AND ANALYSIS FROM THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT FROM 2016.
SO EVEN SINCE THAT TIME, THE AND IT WAS HONESTLY JUST A RESIDUAL DOCUMENT THAT WAS ON THE WEBSITE.
SOMEHOW SINCE THAT TIME, THE DATA AND ANALYSIS WAS SUBSEQUENTLY UPDATED AND THE THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2023.
SO THAT THAT THAT IS A DOCUMENT THAT'S THE DATA AND ANALYSIS SUPPORT DOCUMENT.
IT WAS NOT TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE.
IT WAS JUST SUPPLEMENTARY BACKUP INFORMATION THAT REFERRED TO GUIDELINES THAT ARE FROM THE STATE.
AND EVEN THE 2023, JUST TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, IT ALSO DID HAVE THAT CHART FROM THE STATE THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, HORSESHOES AND VITAL COURSE AND SKATE PARK AND ALL OF THOSE STATE GUIDELINES.
BUT WHEN WE SAW THAT THAT 216 2016 DOCUMENT WAS ON THE WEBSITE, WE REMOVED IT.
SO TO BE CLEAR, IT IS NOT AN ADOPTED STANDARD.
THE ONLY LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARD THAT IS ADOPTED IS THE FIVE FIVE ACRES PER 1000 RESIDENTS.
THAT'S IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SETS FORTH THE ACREAGE, AND THEN THE PROGRAMING FOR THAT ACREAGE IS DONE, OF COURSE, THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MANAGES.
WHY WOULD I LIKE TO HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T I WON'T HAVE MANY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THIS, WITH THIS HOCKEY VISION FOR YEARS NOW. SO SINCE IT FIRST WAS DREAMED UP TO GO TO NORTH DISTRICT PARK.
AND THEN COVID CAME IN, WHICH PROBABLY PUT IN SOME, SOME ROADBLOCKS ON THAT PATH.
AND WE WE CHOSE TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
SO WHEN WE WERE IN THE FIRST STAGES OUT AT NORTH DISTRICT, THERE WAS SOME FINANCIAL HICCUPS THAT WE DIDN'T MEET OR THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T MEET.
ME. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN APRIL DEADLINE OF 40 MILLION.
WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THERE? WE, AS YOU KNOW, WE MET THE INITIAL MILESTONE IN OCTOBER.
WE ARE HIGHLY CONFIDENT THAT THE FINANCING IS IN PLACE.
I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH ROBERT GALL FROM ZIEGLER THIS MORNING.
THEY HAVE THE PITCH BOOK ALREADY OUT.
WE HAVE ALL THE FINANCING AND WE'RE READY TO GO.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEES ON ON WHAT WE HAVE LINED UP IN THE NEXT MONTH.
WE'VE RAISED $12 MILLION SO FAR, WHICH IS FAR AND IN EXCESS OF THE 6.5 MILLION REQUIREMENT.
FUNDRAISING IS ONGOING, BUT WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH DONATION EQUITY, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT.
YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME WE WEREN'T READY TO GO.
SO IF WE'RE CONFIDENT WE'RE GOING TO GET WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW.
SO IS THERE A PUBLIC HOURS IN THIS COMMUNITY? BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS DRESSED UP BY IT WAS ADDRESSED BY A CITIZEN.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S PUBLIC TIME FOR PEOPLE, KIDS.
AND WHEN YOU SAY PUBLIC HOURS, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SIMILAR TO BURNS ROAD, SIMILAR TO ALL OF THE OTHER FACILITIES.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE WILL BE FEES THERE WILL BE PUBLIC SKATING, COMMUNITY SKATING, LEARN TO PLAY PROGRAMS. ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT REPRESENT ABOUT 68% WILL BE ONGOING PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.
WE'LL HAVE DAILY PUBLIC SKATING.
PUBLIC SKATING REPRESENTS CLOSE TO 25% OF THE OVERALL BUDGET.
PUBLIC SKATING IS A TWO HOUR, A TYPICAL TWO HOUR ADVENTURE WHERE THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO SKATE OR LIKE TO SKATE OR WANT TO COME CAN COME.
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BUT YES, IT'S WHEN THE BUILDING IS OPEN.IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS MOST OF THE OTHER FACILITIES IN THE IN THE CITY.
OKAY. AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE VISION OF SOME OF SOME OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IT WAS, IT WAS GOING TO BE SO JAMMED UP WITH HOCKEY TOURNAMENTS AND LEAGUES AND THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE TIME FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE PLATTE AREA TO COME OVER AND SKATE.
IN ORDER FOR A FACILITY LIKE THIS TO FLOURISH, IT HAS TO BE A FACILITY FOR ALL.
IT HAS TO HAVE HOCKEY LEAGUES AND CLINICS.
IT HAS TO HAVE LEARN TO SKATE PROGRAMS AND LEARN TO PLAY HOCKEY PROGRAMS. IT WE WILL HAVE ADAPTIVE HOCKEY PROGRAMS FOR WOUNDED WARRIORS.
WE WILL HAVE INTRODUCING CURLING.
THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE BUSY ALMOST ALL THE TIME IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE NEEDS OF THE FOUNDATION.
SO I THINK THAT HAVING TWO ICE SURFACES GOING YEAR ROUND, WHICH IS WHAT WE WILL WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE MORE THAN ENOUGH HOURS FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO COME ON A REGULAR BASIS ON AN IRREGULAR BASIS.
AND THERE WILL BE TIMES DURING THE WEEK IN THE QUIETER.
TIMES WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION.
THERE WILL BE TIMES IN THE EVENINGS DURING THE WEEKENDS, IT'S IT'S A STAPLE OF A FACILITY LIKE THIS.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU.
I AM SURE I'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMENTS AND STUFF, BUT I THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN ON MY MIND FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS AND YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS COME UP AND SPOKE, WHO SENT EMAILS AND COMMENTED, COMMENTED.
SO OUR CITY IS 60 MILES SQUARE MILES LONG WITH 62,000 PEOPLE.
THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT TAKE YEARS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN PROJECTS THAT WERE VOTED ON BEFORE I CAME INTO OFFICE AND SOME SOME THAT ARE CONTINUING, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME NEW ONES.
AND IS IT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY WHEN SOMEONE DECIDES THEY WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING? IT'S NOT A MATTER OF BUYING LAND AND PUTTING SOMETHING ON IT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO INVEST THEIR MONEY INTO THIS AREA.
AND WHY? BECAUSE IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, LEARN AND PLAY.
THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY.
IT'S A PROCESS, AND IT'S A PROCESS THAT MANY MUNICIPALITIES REACH OUT TO OUR CITY TO LEARN FROM.
THEY WANT TO BENCHMARK AGAINST US.
OUR CITY IS INVESTED IN SEVERAL P3 PROJECTS, WHICH IN A LOT OF WAYS MAKES IT EVEN HARDER FOR A PROJECT TO COME TO FRUITION BECAUSE WE, THE CITY, ARE FINANCIALLY INVESTED.
WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN AFTER A PROJECT IS APPROVED, THAT ALL PROJECT PLANS ARE FULFILLED FOR YEARS TO COME, AND THAT STARTS AS SOON AS THE SHOVEL GOES INTO THE GROUND. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SAFETY FIRST AND WE TAKE CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS.
RESPECTFUL. THERE ARE RIBBON CUTTINGS, SENIOR EVENTS, KIDS EVENTS, COMMUNITY EVENTS AND I OVERALL HAVE TO STOP AND THINK AND PAUSE AND PUT MYSELF INTO A PROJECT AND VISUALIZE THE COMPLETION AND HOW WONDERFUL IT WOULD BE RECEIVED.
HOW WILL THIS SHAPE OUR CITY AND WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE IN FIVE YEARS TIME OR EVEN TEN YEARS TIME? WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO PIVOT, TO MAKE SOME OF THE THINGS HAPPEN WITHIN OUR CITY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, SUCH AS PICKLEBALL.
AND WE CONTINUE TO GET MANY THANK YOUS FOR THOSE NEW COURTS.
THERE HAS BEEN POSITIVE SUPPORT FOR THE ICE RINK AND LOCAL NEGATIVE FOR THE ICE RINK.
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OVERALL, THE ICE RINK WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS AS A MUCH NEEDED ADDITIONAL INDOOR RESOURCE.IT'S BEEN PROVEN TO BE VERY WELL RECEIVED BY RESIDENTS OVERALL IN REGARD TO THE LOCATION IT IS CENTRALLY LOCATED AND WHICH SUITS MANY OF THE RESIDENTS. AND FROM WHAT I SEE, A THOUGHTFUL DESIGN AND OVER AND ABOVE OF WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM ANY ICE RINK FACILITY.
I THINK TRAFFIC CONCERNS HAVE BEEN WELL ARTICULATED BY LOCAL RESIDENTS, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO CHALLENGE THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT ADDITIONAL TURN LANES, TURN LANES, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS WILL WORK AND ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS.
AND WE REMAIN PROACTIVE WITH OUR WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS.
THE OVERALL PROJECT WILL ENHANCE THE AREA AND MAY HAVE POTENTIAL TO IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES LOCALLY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO LOCAL RESIDENTS TO FIND WAYS THAT THEY CAN DIRECTLY BENEFIT AT A LOW COST OR REASONABLE COST, BY HAVING THIS WORLD CLASS RESOURCE AT THEIR DOORSTEP.
COUNCIL MEMBER. SO, DID YOU HAVE SOME MORE? YEAH. AS THE VICE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE HUNDREDS OF EMAILS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT TO US OVER THE PAST NINE MONTHS AS WE'VE BEEN KIND OF REVIEWING THIS PROJECT, REPURPOSING A PARK THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 60 YEARS IS NOT AN EASY ISSUE TO ADDRESS. I REMEMBER WHEN THAT PARK HOSTED ANNUAL CELEBRATION EVENTS, HAD A FULL PLAYGROUND, SWINGS, BASEBALL, T-BALL AND OPERATIONAL CONCESSION STAND FOR WEEKLY WEEKEND EVENTS.
MIGHT EVEN HAD HORSESHOES AND VOLLEYBALL THERE.
TWO COURTS FROM WHAT I REMEMBER GROWING UP.
HOWEVER, MOST OF THOSE ORIGINAL PARK FEATURES HAVE NOW BEEN ELIMINATED OR CHANGED.
THERE'S BEEN ALWAYS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT MOVING THE INDOOR FACILITY TO THE DISTRICT PARK.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DEADLINE ON THAT PARK TO PUT UP A NEW FACILITY BY 2028, I BELIEVE, TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS WITH THE COUNTY AS SET UP TEN YEARS AGO. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS THIS PLAN.
AND I DOUBT THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE US A FREE DEAL TO MOVE THAT PARK JUST ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH.
PATIENT. SO THAT FIGURE IS PROBABLY MORE DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THAN WHAT WE CONSIDER.
OTHER COMMENTS TALKED ABOUT THE FUNDRAISING.
ALSO, THIS PLEDGE, I'M SURE, WILL BE ASSIGNED AND COLLECTED AS PART OF ANY FINANCING COMMITMENT THAT WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE FOUNDATION FROM A LENDER TO BUILD THIS FACILITY.
IN TERMS OF STAFF'S EFFORTS, THEY RELOCATED THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY SIGNED UP OVER 1000 PEOPLE IN THE PAST YEAR TO USE THAT FACILITY, KNOWING HOW WELL IT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER IN THE GARDENS, HOW WILL WE MANAGE IT AND WHAT GOES ON? IMPORTANT TO ME IS WALKING THROUGH THE FINAL DISCUSSIONS TO MOVE THE AMANDA J.
BUCKLEY MEMORIAL STADIUM TO A MORE APPROPRIATE SITE.
EITHER THE PALM BEACH GARDENS HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS OR THE LAKE CATHERINE SPORTS COMPLEX.
RELOCATING THE SITE IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME.
ALSO, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK OUR NEW SCHOOL BOARD, DISTRICT ONE REP, MATT LANE, FOR HIS QUICK RESPONSE TO SET UP A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WE TRY TO MOVE THIS PROPOSAL FORWARD.
WE'VE ALSO EXPANDED THE FACILITIES AT BURNS ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER AND DEVELOPING THE NEW DISTRICT PARK INDOOR FIELD HOUSE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE AROUND USAGE AND MULTIPLE SPORTING VENUES WHICH WILL BE NEEDED AND THE CITY CONTINUES TO DEVELOP NEWER, DETAILED FACILITIES TO ACCOMMODATE OUR POPULATION GROWTH.
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RECREATION TRENDS AND THE NEEDS TO OFFER SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE.THIS INCLUDES THE PAR THREE NEST COURSE, THE NORTH COUNTY DISTRICT PARK, THE CRESSEY SPORTS PERFORMANCE TRAINING FACILITIES AND ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELD THAT WAS BUILT THAT'S HOME TO THE MIRACLE LEAGUE OF THE PALM BEACHES.
AND THANKS TO OUR MAYOR, A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN AT OAKES PARK.
LAST YEAR, THE CITY GENERATED $24 MILLION IN LOCAL ECONOMIC FUNDING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT INCLUDES 53 MAJOR SPORTING EVENTS.
I ALSO VENTURE TO SAY THAT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM EITHER KNEW ABOUT OR ATTENDED ONE OF THOSE EVENTS.
TONIGHT, MY ASK OF STAFF IN 2025 WILL BE TWOFOLD.
ONE ONCE THE BURNS ROAD COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE GARDENS PARK SPORTS COMPLEX RENOVATIONS ARE COMPLETE THIS SPRING, LET'S REVIEW OUR EXISTING LAND SPACE MAP TO SEE IF A NEW SKATE PARK FACILITY CAN BE CONSIDERED AND IS SAFE, SECURE, INSURABLE AND ACCESSIBLE.
LOCATION. MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE CORE RECREATIONAL AREA OF THE CITY, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CURRENT FACILITIES THAT ARE OLDER RESIDENTS OR OLDER CITY USES. FINAL CLOSURE TO RELOCATING THE AMANDA J.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.
OKAY, IF I MIGHT, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS MYSELF.
AND THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO YOU'VE HEARD THAT OUR THE NEIGHBORS THAT WILL BE ABUTTING THE SKATE RINK IF THIS IS PUT IN THE ICE SKATING RINK, IF THIS IS PUT IN, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. WE'VE HEARD THINGS ALONG THE LINES OF EXPANDING SIDEWALKS, MITIGATING TRAFFIC.
CAN YOU TELL ME MORE? THIS MATTERS A LOT.
EVERY PROJECT THAT WE'VE HAD COME BEFORE US, WHETHER IT WAS THE US HOSPITAL WHERE THE CEO LITERALLY WENT INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING TO BE BUILT AND RESTRUCTURED THE ENTIRE BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBORS, WE WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING, TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD WE'RE REALLY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE AND REALIZING THAT EVERYONE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE PROUD OF.
SO YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE TURN LANES.
WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT SPEEDING THAT PEOPLE HAD THOSE CONCERNS.
BUT IN ADDITION, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL BENEFIT AND THAT THIS IS GOING TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING WITH THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC. SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RIGHT THERE, WE'RE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF A PROBLEM THAT EXISTS THAT WHETHER WE DO THIS PROJECT OR NOT. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
SAME GOES FOR THOSE EXPANDED SIDEWALKS AND, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'VE WORKED ON A PROJECT EVER WHERE WE HAVE GONE IN TO THE EDGE OF THE BLOCK IN BOTH DIRECTIONS TO MAKE THOSE TYPES OF OFF SITE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING TO THE PARKS AND WALKING TO THE SCHOOL, BIKING TO THE PARKS, YOU KNOW, PUSHING THEIR BABIES IN STROLLERS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS IS SAFE AND STILL WALKABLE FOR THEM.
I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT LANDSCAPING AND BEAUTIFICATION IS TO THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE ALSO DOING ON SITE AS WELL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I AM NOT AN ICE SKATER.
I WAS A ROLLER SKATER AT SKATE COUNTRY.
FOR THOSE OF US WHO'VE BEEN HERE WAY TOO LONG.
WHAT IS OPEN SKATE? IS IT WHAT IS IT COST USUALLY? WHAT IS IT LIKE? HOW OFTEN DO YOU GET THERE? WHAT ARE THE WHAT IS IT REALLY GOING TO BE LIKE FOR OUR RESIDENTS? NOT COMPARISONS TO ARIZONA OR TEXAS OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON A TUESDAY OR A FRIDAY HERE IN PALM BEACH GARDENS IF THIS IS VOTED IN.
AND AGAIN, TYPICALLY OPEN SKATE, IT'S CALLED OPEN SKATE.
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IT'S CALLED PUBLIC SKATE.THERE WILL BE FEES CHARGED AS THERE WOULD BE FOR ALL OTHER PROGRAMS AS WELL.
OKAY. TYPICALLY THERE IT COULD BE AN HOUR AND A HALF OR TWO HOUR SESSIONS.
AGAIN, THERE WILL BE SESSIONS TYPICALLY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NOON TILL 2 OR 10 TILL 12, WHICH WOULD BE LIGHTLY, VERY LIGHTLY ATTENDED. AND THEN CERTAIN AFTERNOONS THERE WILL BE PROGRAMS AND THEN ON THE WEEKEND WOULD BE THE PRIMARY PUBLIC SKATING SESSIONS AGAIN, TWO HOURS, SOMETIMES THREE HOURS, AND PEOPLE WILL COME.
SOME PEOPLE COME REGULARLY, SOME PEOPLE COME THE CHRISTMAS TIME.
BUT IT'S A CRITICAL PART OF, OF AN OVERALL FACILITY LIKE THIS AS WELL.
LEARN TO SKATE PROGRAMS. GRASP GRASS ROOTS PROGRAMING IS CRITICAL BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE IN FLORIDA, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME FROM THE NORTHEAST AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, THAT THAT ICE SKATING IS STILL FOREIGN TO THEM, AND THE FACILITY WILL HAVE PROGRAMS FOR THOSE WHO WOULD NOT ORDINARILY THINK OF ICE SKATING AS SOMETHING THEY WOULD THEY WOULD WANT TO DO IN THEIR RECREATION AND PROGRAMS LIKE THAT THAT WILL BE ONGOING YEAR ROUND.
WHAT WHAT IS THE PHILANTHROPY PART.
CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT PROGRAM? WELL, THERE ARE MULTIPLE PROGRAMS, AND BEING A NONPROFIT AND REACHING OUT TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS AND WORKING WITH OTHER NONPROFITS IN THE AREA, SCHOOLS AND SUMMER CAMPS AS WELL, TO GET THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE INTO THE BUILDING.
IT'S PART OF AN OVERALL PROGRAM TO PROGRAM THE BUILDING YEAR ROUND.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU'VE GOT COMPANY UP THERE, IF I MAY, IF I MAY JUST EXPAND ON THAT.
IN ADVANCE OF THIS, WE TOOK OVER THE PALM BEACH ICE WORKS FOR THREE YEARS, 3 TO 5 YEARS ON LEASE.
THE FIRST THING THAT WE DID IS WE OFFERED FREE CLINICS, FULLY COACHED FOR YOUTH.
AND WE CHARGE ZERO FOR TWO MONTHS.
BECAUSE WE WANTED TO EXPAND, WE WANT TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE WANTED TO EXPAND THE PARTICIPATION.
THOSE IN NEED GET SCHOLARSHIPS.
IN MY PRIOR ASSOCIATION WITH THE YOUTH PROGRAM IN NEW JERSEY.
AND ONE OF THE COMMENTERS SAID, WOULD YOU WANT THIS IN MY BACKYARD? I HAPPEN TO HAVE BUILT AN ICE RINK IN MY BACKYARD IN NEW JERSEY.
SO I'M THE OUTLIER, I APOLOGIZE.
WE'VE HOSTED FREE EVENTS FOR FOR SLED HOCKEY, RIGHT? FOR THOSE WHO WHO WHO NEED TO BE ON SLEDS.
WE'VE HOSTED FUNDRAISERS FOR CANCER.
RIGHT. HOCKEY HAS A VERY, VERY LONG TRADITION, BOTH AT THE PRO LEVEL AND THE YOUTH LEVEL OF RUNNING.
HOCKEY FIGHTS, CANCER FUNDRAISERS.
WE RAN A FUNDRAISER FOR FREE THAT RAISED OVER $200,000 FOR CANCER RESEARCH THIS SUMMER.
AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WE WILL USE THE ICE FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WILL BE WORKING WITH OTHER TEAMS IN FLORIDA TO TRY TO MAKE HOCKEY A MORE AND I FIGURE SKATING MORE ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE SPORT, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S DRIVABLE COMPETITIONS RATHER THAN THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES PLAYERS LITERALLY NEED TO GET ON A PLANE AND GO FLY IN ORDER TO ACCESS THE RIGHT LEVEL OF COMPETITION, WE HEAR EXACTLY THE EXACTLY THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE VERY VALID CONCERNS OF THIS COUNCIL, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE.
I WOULD SAY THAT A TWO HOUR PUBLIC SKATING SESSION COSTS IN GENERAL ABOUT WHAT A WHAT A TWO HOUR MOVIE DOES AT A MOVIE THEATER, EXCEPT IT'S JUST MORE, MUCH MORE ACTIVE RECREATION THAN SITTING AND STARING AT A BIG SCREEN.
I HAVE SEVERAL CHILDREN WHO STARE AT A SMALL SCREEN ALL THE TIME, SO I'D RATHER HAVE THEM DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT SO WE UNDERSTAND OUR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY AT THE SAME POINT IN TIME. IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THAT THE FINANCING OF THE PROJECT WILL COST ABOUT $40 MILLION.
THERE HAS BEEN $12 MILLION OF EQUITY COMMITTED.
THERE WILL BE MORE EQUITY COMMITTED.
THEN THERE WILL BE MONEY THAT IS BORROWED.
THE ENTIRE MISSION OF THE FOUNDATION IS TO SERVICE THE DEBT RIGHT AND AND FUND THE FACILITY.
ET CETERA. AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THINGS ARE FEE PAYING PROGRAMS IN THERE THAT, THAT, THAT PROMOTE THAT, THEN WE WILL CONTINUE TO RAISE PHILANTHROPY IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING MORE ACCESSIBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY TO THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS AS TO WHY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
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IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP A LOT IN PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT, AND I'D LOVE TO GET THAT OUT THERE AND CLEAR.WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY WE TRIED TO INCLUDE THE FIELD HOUSE FACILITY WITH THE ICE SKATING AND ALONG WITH THAT, WITH THE REVENUE PRODUCING PARTNERSHIP OF RESTAURANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND WHAT WE LEARNED ALONG THE WAY IS THAT THE ICE SKATING AND THE FIELD HOUSE, WHICH WE HAVE AN HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BUILD ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE AS FAR AS THEIR OPERATION IS CONCERNED AND THEIR ABILITIES TO PROGRAM, AS WELL AS TO GENERATE REVENUES TO PAY FOR THE FINANCING. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU HAD A MAJOR TOURNAMENT BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT, A VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT IN THE FIELDHOUSE, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH PARKING. AND SO SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.
IF THE ICE WAS HAVING A MAJOR TOURNAMENT ICE HOCKEY TOURNAMENT, NOT ENOUGH PARKING, THEN THE FIELDHOUSE WOULD HAVE TO SHUT DOWN. SO WHAT WE DISCOVERED, BECAUSE THIS WAS ALL NEW TO US, IS THAT THE FACILITIES WERE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE AS FAR AS THE OPERATION IS CONCERNED. IN ADDITION TO THAT WITH OUR EXPERIENCE WITH SPECIAL EVENTS, CITYWIDE SPECIAL EVENTS, WITH OUR WITH OUR EXPERIENCE WITH COMMUNITY EVENTS SUCH AS MARDI GRAS AND THE OLD HONDA, BUT NOW THE NEW COGNIZANT CLASSIC, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH PARKING TO SUPPORT THAT.
ONE IS TO MEET OUR OBLIGATION AS FAR AS THE FIELD HOUSE IS CONCERNED BY 2028, WHICH WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING RIGHT NOW, AND SUPPLY ENOUGH PARKING NOT ONLY FOR THE FIELD HOUSE AND ITS TOURNAMENTS AND OPERATION, BUT TO SUPPORT OUR OWN CITY EVENTS THERE AT THE FACILITY, AS WELL AS THE COGNIZANT AND THE EVENTS SUCH AS MARDI GRAS.
SO WE FOUND AND LEARNED AT THE SAME TIME.
DOES THAT CLARIFY? EXCELLENT. VERY HELPFUL.
BEFORE I FINISH UP ASKING QUESTIONS.
ANYTHING ELSE? BUBBLE UP FROM COUNCIL? NO. ALL RIGHT.
I GUESS I JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
AS FAR AS TRAFFIC MITIGATION, IF WE COULD JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FAST FORWARD A LITTLE BIT AND IMAGINE A TYPICAL THURSDAY MORNING OR A THURSDAY AFTERNOON.
HOW MUCH WILL OUR POLICE OFFICERS BE INVOLVED? WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE? SO IF I LIVED IN ONE OF THE HOMES THAT IS FACING THIS, WHAT I WALK OUTSIDE, WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE FOR ME? ON A TYPICAL WEEKDAY, I WOULD SAY IN THE MORNINGS, EARLY MORNINGS, THOSE ARE PRETTY LIMITED TO POTENTIALLY, LIKE PRIVATE INSTRUCTIONS AND THINGS.
YOU KNOW, WHERE IT WOULD START TO PICK UP WOULD BE THAT TIME AFTER SCHOOL.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF THAT, THAT PEAK TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAJORITY OF THE DAY I THINK IT WON'T BE HEAVY TRAFFIC.
THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE, AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE OFF WORK.
SO IT WON'T BE JUST PEOPLE PARKING AND IDLING THEIR CAR AND HANGING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.
THEY'LL MOSTLY BE DROPPING OFF AND THEN MOVING ALONG.
YEAH. I MEAN, THE NATURE OF SOME OF THE SPORTS IS IS BRINGING IN A LOT OF EQUIPMENT.
SO YOU KNOW, WE WANT PEOPLE TO SIT AT THE RESTAURANT AND WATCH THE PRACTICE OR WATCH THE GAMES OR FOR THE KIDS TO COME AND HANG OUT BEFORE OR AFTER IN THE IN THE KIND OF LOBBY OR LOUNGE AREA TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
SO THIS ISN'T JUST AN IN AND OUT TYPE OF FACILITY.
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IT IS A SPACE WHERE THEY CAN COME AND MAYBE THEY CAN DO THEIR HOMEWORK BEFORE OR AFTER SCHOOL WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR PRACTICE.SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT MORE AS PROVIDING THOSE ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, TO HANG OUT AND TO GATHER.
ALL RIGHT. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
I DO WANT TO DO A QUICK MOMENT TO THANK OUR STAFF FOR WORKING SO DILIGENTLY ON THIS.
I KNOW THIS HAS NOT BEEN EASY.
AND THE COMMENTS THAT CAME BACK AND FORTH WERE WERE POINT JUST ON POINT, AS ALWAYS.
AND I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK CHARLOTTE FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH PALM BEACH GARDENS HIGH SCHOOL AND WITH AMANDA BUCKLEY'S FAMILY AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS DONE WITH LOVE AND APPRECIATION.
IT IS A NONPROFIT ON PUBLIC LAND.
AND I KNOW PERSONALLY, I TOOK SOME TIME TODAY AND WENT THROUGH MY EMAILS, AND I RECEIVED 31 EMAILS FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE AGAINST THIS PARK.
THEY JUST DIDN'T LIKE THE LOCATION.
I ALSO RECEIVED 90 EMAILS FROM INDIVIDUALS IN SUPPORT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LISTEN TO BLOGGERS OR SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU WOULD THINK THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR AND SAYING THEY DIDN'T WANT THIS.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO MAKE A DECISION THAT IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SO, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR COUNCIL ACTION OR DISCUSSION TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T.
OKAY. WE'LL SEE IF MARCIE DOES.
ACTUALLY WE'LL TAKE A ONE MOMENT BREAK.
NO. SURE, SURE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
WE ARE GOING TO RE RESTART OUR COUNCIL MEETING.
COUNCIL MEMBER TINSLEY WAS RECUSED FROM THE VOTE BUT DOES HAVE COMMENTS.
SO IF YOU DO INTEND TO STAY, SHE WOULD LIKE TO DO PUBLIC COUNCIL ITEMS. WE DIDN'T CLOSE THE MEETING YET.
WE JUST NEED PATTI. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO WE HAVE OUR ITEMS FOR COUNCIL ACTION AND DISCUSSION.
I'M SORRY IF EVERYONE COULD KEEP IT DOWN.
[X. ITEMS FOR COUNCIL ACTION/DISCUSSION AND ITEMS OF INTEREST]
I KNOW, WELL, I WAS HOPING THEY WOULD STAY TO HEAR IT.AND OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T COMMENT ON THE PARK, BUT I DO WANT TO CONCUR.
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AND I DO AGREE WITH WHAT BURT SAID IN REGARDS TO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, MOROSO SAID, WHICH IS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR EITHER THE SKATE PARK AND OR THE BASKETBALL.IN ADDITION, I WANTED TO JUST STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND I AM HEARING FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS. AND OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO TOPICS THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE ALWAYS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT BESIDES THIS.
ONE IS TRAFFIC AND QUIET ZONES IS ANOTHER ONE.
I SHARED A FEW OF THE TRAFFIC EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS WITH RON FERRIS.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT ENTIRE LINK ON OUR WEBSITE ABOUT NORTHLAKE BOULEVARD.
I THINK IT'S AMAZING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NOW I JUST SEND THAT LINK OUT TO EVERYBODY.
AND WHEN I GET A COMMENT, BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOW UPDATING THAT LINK WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE, FROM THE COUNTY, FROM WHOMEVER, WHATEVER AGENCY IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON NORTHLAKE BOULEVARD.
IT IS NOW BEING UPDATED ON OUR WEBSITE, SO THAT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW.
AND IN ADDITION, WITH QUIET ZONES, WE DID A PSA, I GUESS WE CALL IT FOR E-BIKE SAFETY, WHICH HAS REALLY BEEN HELPFUL FOR COMMUNITIES.
THEY LOVE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE PASSING THAT BIT OF INFORMATION TO THEIR RESIDENTS.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY USING IT IN THEIR E-BLAST TO ALL THEIR RESIDENTS.
SO ONE OF MY ASKS IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT IS TO DO A PSA IN REGARDS TO QUIET IN REGARDS TO OUR TRAIN SAFETY.
I HAVE SEEN SO MANY CARS WHERE IT SAYS, DO NOT STOP ON THE TRACKS, STOP HERE ON RED AND THEY ARE ON THE TRACK DURING A RED LIGHT AND THE GATES ARE COMING DOWN.
I KNOW IT SOUNDS SILLY, BUT IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS NOT TO DO IT, BUT PEOPLE ARE DOING IT ALL THE TIME.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW RESIDENTS, A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT UP HERE FULL TIME.
IT'S SEASONAL, AND THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT BRIGHTLINE BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST MOVED HERE.
AS WE KNOW FROM OUR HANK FISHKIND PRESENTATION.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
IN THE FUTURE FOR US TO DO AS WELL.
OKAY. WE DO NOT HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY REPORT TONIGHT.
SO WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.